What will happen once the gas is all used up? What will replace the black gold?
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Water. Or maybe hydrogen?
Algae derived biodiesel
You'd think that'd be more of a hot button issue than it is. As a species, we have a dismal track record for thinking ahead. Unfortunately, on the large scale, that's a bridge that we'll cross when we come to it. I highly doubt that, at least for the foreseeable future, there will be a single alternative to oil. Maybe here they'll divide the country into sections, one part could be hydrogen, another could be electric, another could be ethanol (or hopefully cellulosic ethanol if we can get that working efficiently).
If you had the answer for that question, you'd be a wealthy man.
If you had the answer for that question, you'd be a wealthy man.
so if you drive to another part of the country what do you do?CommieChipmunk wrote:
Maybe here they'll divide the country into sections, one part could be hydrogen, another could be electric, another could be ethanol (or hopefully cellulosic ethanol if we can get that working efficiently).
i'd say the everything will run off combinations of energy. hydrogen and electric most likely.
Good question. Rent a car?twiistaaa wrote:
so if you drive to another part of the country what do you do?CommieChipmunk wrote:
Maybe here they'll divide the country into sections, one part could be hydrogen, another could be electric, another could be ethanol (or hopefully cellulosic ethanol if we can get that working efficiently).
i'd say the everything will run off combinations of energy. hydrogen and electric most likely.
Problem is, how do you get hydrogen? There are no natural hydrogen reserves, you have to use energy to split it from water. Usually, that energy comes from (in some way, shape or form) oil.
Pixie dust and lucky charms.
I would seriously hope our GAS reserves aren't about to run short, as that's what I think we'll be moving to (on our way to a hydrogen economy... some hope). There should be plenty enough.
And I suppose if need be, there is a LOT of methane clathrate we can use.
But I would prefer efficiency instead...
And I suppose if need be, there is a LOT of methane clathrate we can use.
But I would prefer efficiency instead...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
anarchy and economic collapse.
Yeah well, that's why you replace those Oil/Fossil Power Plants with alternatives. Like NukularCommieChipmunk wrote:
Good question. Rent a car?twiistaaa wrote:
so if you drive to another part of the country what do you do?CommieChipmunk wrote:
Maybe here they'll divide the country into sections, one part could be hydrogen, another could be electric, another could be ethanol (or hopefully cellulosic ethanol if we can get that working efficiently).
i'd say the everything will run off combinations of energy. hydrogen and electric most likely.
Problem is, how do you get hydrogen? There are no natural hydrogen reserves, you have to use energy to split it from water. Usually, that energy comes from (in some way, shape or form) oil.
Geothermal to produce the electricity, Hydrogen to power the vehicles.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Yeah well, that's why you replace those Oil/Fossil Power Plants with alternatives. Like NukularCommieChipmunk wrote:
Good question. Rent a car?twiistaaa wrote:
so if you drive to another part of the country what do you do?
i'd say the everything will run off combinations of energy. hydrogen and electric most likely.
Problem is, how do you get hydrogen? There are no natural hydrogen reserves, you have to use energy to split it from water. Usually, that energy comes from (in some way, shape or form) oil.
Am sure I read something about how well canada is going to do in the next decades specifically down to water.
Martyn
Martyn
Guns.
Too hard to store safely.ebug9 wrote:
Water. Or maybe hydrogen?
I'm guessing alcohol or sugar cane.
IF hydrogen is used, nuclear or geothermal or HEP to split it from the water.
QFERoosterCantrell wrote:
anarchy and economic collapse.
People tend to forget that gasoline is only a fraction of all oilbased products.
For instance, people, look around your room. How many things plastic do you see?
I need around tree fiddy.
The problem is the people that don't belive.
Every few years theres a hype saying we are going to run out of gas/fuel but it never happans, so now every one say "oh its just a hype we will be ok ok" but what if were not ok?
The personly belive the future key to becoming the next worlds super power is the country that owns/has clean fuel and can carry on when no one else can.
What happened the the Power Plant at CERN? Did it blow up in the end?
Every few years theres a hype saying we are going to run out of gas/fuel but it never happans, so now every one say "oh its just a hype we will be ok ok" but what if were not ok?
The personly belive the future key to becoming the next worlds super power is the country that owns/has clean fuel and can carry on when no one else can.
What happened the the Power Plant at CERN? Did it blow up in the end?
The majority of oil is used towards generating power/transport. If you can cut out the need for crude/fossil oil for the things I said before, it means we're much less dependant on the stuff. Also, plastics can be derived from other sources.DonFck wrote:
QFERoosterCantrell wrote:
anarchy and economic collapse.
People tend to forget that gasoline is only a fraction of all oilbased products.
For instance, people, look around your room. How many things plastic do you see?
http://technology.newscientist.com/arti … oleum.html
The technology is there, it's just whether we're willing to change or not.
So basically you're going to produce plastics from crops. And you're probably going to use more and more crops for turning them into fuel or fuel additives as well. I wonder how this would affect food supplies.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
The majority of oil is used towards generating power/transport. If you can cut out the need for crude/fossil oil for the things I said before, it means we're much less dependant on the stuff. Also, plastics can be derived from other sources.DonFck wrote:
QFERoosterCantrell wrote:
anarchy and economic collapse.
People tend to forget that gasoline is only a fraction of all oilbased products.
For instance, people, look around your room. How many things plastic do you see?
http://technology.newscientist.com/arti … oleum.html
The technology is there, it's just whether we're willing to change or not.
I'm gonna go with the anarchy / economic disaster card.
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Methane from animal waste to power self-sustaining farms.
Fuel cells for powering vehicles.
Fuel cells for powering vehicles.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
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Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
on a global scale, only electricity from solar power has the potential to be an energy source for all of mankind.
It is cheap, available everywhere, and the technology to make good use of it is already very well developed.
A couple of solar power plants in the north african desert would be enough to supply the whole world with electricity.
and the earlier we start putting some serious money into research, the earlier we will be able to show those middle eastern towelheads the finger..
It is cheap, available everywhere, and the technology to make good use of it is already very well developed.
A couple of solar power plants in the north african desert would be enough to supply the whole world with electricity.
and the earlier we start putting some serious money into research, the earlier we will be able to show those middle eastern towelheads the finger..
Baby-powered vehicles. I hear they burn at a high temperature.
Mr. Fusion tbh
Just so long as it's attached to a flying De LoreanM.O.A.B wrote:
Mr. Fusion tbh
Who are you going to hire that will be sane enough to maintain the plants.B.Schuss wrote:
on a global scale, only electricity from solar power has the potential to be an energy source for all of mankind.
It is cheap, available everywhere, and the technology to make good use of it is already very well developed.
A couple of solar power plants in the north african desert would be enough to supply the whole world with electricity.
and the earlier we start putting some serious money into research, the earlier we will be able to show those middle eastern towelheads the finger..
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