The answer is nobody because the US are pretty impotent and have decimated their relationships with traditional allies over the past 10 years.
Poll
Who to fight with next, after Iraq/Afghanistan?
| Pakistan | 8% | 8% - 5 | ||||
| Iran | 38% | 38% - 23 | ||||
| China | 13% | 13% - 8 | ||||
| India | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Turkey | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Russia | 8% | 8% - 5 | ||||
| Other | 30% | 30% - 18 | ||||
| Total: 59 | ||||||
I'd say nobody, because they can't afford it, meself...CameronPoe wrote:
The answer is nobody because the US are pretty impotent and have decimated their relationships with traditional allies over the past 10 years.
Fuck it. Iran.
We screwed everything else up.
We screwed everything else up.
That and the fact they intend to be de facto rulers of Iraq for 'the next 100 years'.Bertster7 wrote:
I'd say nobody, because they can't afford it, meself...CameronPoe wrote:
The answer is nobody because the US are pretty impotent and have decimated their relationships with traditional allies over the past 10 years.
We need to take a long break and rebuild our economy and stay out of other peoples business.
True. But that's not the question.The#1Spot wrote:
We need to take a long break and rebuild our economy and stay out of other peoples business.
WHO should we fight next IS the question.
And frankly, i wish we were lest capitalistic pigs and kept all our our wealth and product within our country, and maybe Canada. Keep private, keep prepared and stocked up for whatever comes. Have lots of submarines patrolling the rest of the world and demonstrate their wrath now and then to keep everyone in the loop. lol
Just what do you base your assessment upon?IRONCHEF wrote:
Hmmm, with lots of MOABs nonetheless? lolM.O.A.B wrote:
Nope, we're talking about bombing it back to the stone age.IRONCHEF wrote:
lol, i love when people say "Iran would be easy." Are you talking about invading and occupying and having even minimal control over Iran or it's major cities? If so, you are seriously fooled.
So tell me, how many bombs do you think we have? And how small do you think Iran is? And how likely are the Iranian's military to be prepared for our super duper jdams and other penetrating munitions? And how likely is it their AA networks have redundancies? And oh yeah, how small do you think Iran is?
So we drop our 20 MOABs on Tehran...big woop. Then a thousand tomahawks, a few more thousand jdams into schools and hospitals (we don't exactly use human intel anymore for target confirmations), and a few more tens of thousands of 500lb bombs from stealth aircraft, which for the first time, amazingly start getting shot down as we realize we're not as badass as we think! lol
IRAN = not your average towel heads
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russia!!!
tv. and i am friends with a shah era colonel from iran. its not exactly new information if you watch ANY documentaries on iran.
Pardon me if I go with something a bit more detailed than TV and 30-odd year dated experience.IRONCHEF wrote:
tv. and i am friends with a shah era colonel from iran. its not exactly new information if you watch ANY documentaries on iran.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
How bout you dispute my claims, then we can get into what we've both actually learned from our sources/ideas, eh? Or are you just gonna stalk me cuz you got a bone to pick with me? I swear, you're like usmarine incarnate! lol Is he secretly emailing you?FEOS wrote:
Pardon me if I go with something a bit more detailed than TV and 30-odd year dated experience.IRONCHEF wrote:
tv. and i am friends with a shah era colonel from iran. its not exactly new information if you watch ANY documentaries on iran.
If you're asking who we're most likely to attack next, I'd say Iran. If you're asking who is the most dangerous, I'd say Pakistan.
If you're asking who I would choose to fight next.... I'd say no one.
If you're asking who I would choose to fight next.... I'd say no one.
One post is "stalking you"? Get over yourself.IRONCHEF wrote:
How bout you dispute my claims, then we can get into what we've both actually learned from our sources/ideas, eh? Or are you just gonna stalk me cuz you got a bone to pick with me? I swear, you're like usmarine incarnate! lol Is he secretly emailing you?FEOS wrote:
Pardon me if I go with something a bit more detailed than TV and 30-odd year dated experience.IRONCHEF wrote:
tv. and i am friends with a shah era colonel from iran. its not exactly new information if you watch ANY documentaries on iran.
1. Iran has no modern long-range SAMs.
2. Iran's IADS is essentially the same as Iraq's was (Russian)...and it's old as fuck.
3. Iran is buying new AD equipment, but it'll be years before it's even close to IOC.
4. Iran's training is shit, like in most ME countries. Cultural aspects prevent critical debrief, which prevents effective learning and tactics development.
5. Iran has no modern interceptors. Their most modern fighters are F-4s and F-14s. And all of their aircraft suffer from abysmal maintenance, so their mission capable rate is less than 50%.
So...to summarize:
POS equipment + POS training + POS maintenance = POS air defenses.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
So, given the fact that Iran is weak, there's really no need to attack them, right? We don't even need to worry about the nukes thing either.
Apart from Ahmanutjob and his cronies, Iran is a very modernized, westernized nation.Turquoise wrote:
So, given the fact that Iran is weak, there's really no need to attack them, right? We don't even need to worry about the nukes thing either.
The conservative party banned all opposition candidates, and still lost seats in the parliamentary elections. The Iranian people don't like the recent rollbacks on social freedoms, and feel (rightly so) that their government is going to get then obliterated.
I don't see Iran being a threat for very long, it has a large, youthful population, they won't stand for this old fashioned war mongering for long.
Agreed... I just wish our government felt the same way....
It seems like our government is often the last body to realize what is actually going on in the world, especially now, hating the Iranians, but laughing it up with the Saudis and Pakistanis, who do have it out for us.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... I just wish our government felt the same way....
The Saudis bother me the most, because of Wahhabism. That has to be most despicable form of Islam ever. Any sect with that murderous sense of superiority is dangerous -- much like Nazism.S.Lythberg wrote:
It seems like our government is often the last body to realize what is actually going on in the world, especially now, hating the Iranians, but laughing it up with the Saudis and Pakistanis, who do have it out for us.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... I just wish our government felt the same way....
Saudi style government is truly deserving of the term "Islamofacism" but they have the black gold, so we keep our distance.Turquoise wrote:
The Saudis bother me the most, because of Wahhabism. That has to be most despicable form of Islam ever. Any sect with that murderous sense of superiority is dangerous -- much like Nazism.S.Lythberg wrote:
It seems like our government is often the last body to realize what is actually going on in the world, especially now, hating the Iranians, but laughing it up with the Saudis and Pakistanis, who do have it out for us.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... I just wish our government felt the same way....
Indeed... I'll be happy when we either move away from it or it simply goes away. Then, we can let the Middle East kill itself for all I care.S.Lythberg wrote:
Saudi style government is truly deserving of the term "Islamofacism" but they have the black gold, so we keep our distance.Turquoise wrote:
The Saudis bother me the most, because of Wahhabism. That has to be most despicable form of Islam ever. Any sect with that murderous sense of superiority is dangerous -- much like Nazism.S.Lythberg wrote:
It seems like our government is often the last body to realize what is actually going on in the world, especially now, hating the Iranians, but laughing it up with the Saudis and Pakistanis, who do have it out for us.
Saudi Arabia is one of the primary reasons we should eliminate our infinite need for oil.
Watching their pathetic excuse for a government collapse without our money would be extremely gratifying.
Watching their pathetic excuse for a government collapse without our money would be extremely gratifying.
Why does everyone seem to think that it's a foregone conclusion that Iran will be attacked?Turquoise wrote:
So, given the fact that Iran is weak, there's really no need to attack them, right? We don't even need to worry about the nukes thing either.
IT'S NOT.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
what will they do without oil money? that's almost 100% of their economy, I'm predicting that that whole region will implode once we move from oil.Turquoise wrote:
Indeed... I'll be happy when we either move away from it or it simply goes away. Then, we can let the Middle East kill itself for all I care.S.Lythberg wrote:
Saudi style government is truly deserving of the term "Islamofacism" but they have the black gold, so we keep our distance.Turquoise wrote:
The Saudis bother me the most, because of Wahhabism. That has to be most despicable form of Islam ever. Any sect with that murderous sense of superiority is dangerous -- much like Nazism.
I'm getting my degree in chemical engineering, so I'll do my best to get that oil replacement ready!
then we can sit back and watch the fireworks
"Other"= Illegal Immigrants.