sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7028|Argentina
I'd say that running Vista 4 GB is a must.
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|6955|West Yorkshire, U.K
lol, nevar
Scorpion0x17
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mikkel wrote:

With 64-bits available to represent the locations of bytes of memory the maximum theoretical memory address size increases to 2^64 bytes, which equates to 16TB (terabytes) or 16,384GB (yes, gigabytes!)
Is it just me, or is 2^64 closer to 2 exabytes? That's a few orders of magnitude off.
A 64-bit unsigned integer has a range of 0 through to 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 decimal.

An exabyte (EB) is 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 bytes.

So, that's 16EB.
mikkel
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

mikkel wrote:

With 64-bits available to represent the locations of bytes of memory the maximum theoretical memory address size increases to 2^64 bytes, which equates to 16TB (terabytes) or 16,384GB (yes, gigabytes!)
Is it just me, or is 2^64 closer to 2 exabytes? That's a few orders of magnitude off.
A 64-bit unsigned integer has a range of 0 through to 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 decimal.

An exabyte (EB) is 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 bytes.

So, that's 16EB.
That's 2^64 bits

(2^64)/(2^60) = 16 exabit, or 2 exabyte.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine

sergeriver wrote:

I'd say that running Vista 4 GB is a must.
For 32 or 64 bit?

I have 32 bit Vista with 2GB of RAM, and games are pretty laggy. Could be drivers, idk, but the lag dies down after quite a while so I'm lead to believe it is a RAM issue.

I'd say 3GB of RAM in Vista 32 bit is about equal to 2GB in XP. I can't really say for 64 bit, never used it personally. I know I'd want 4GB minimum, but perhaps more, I dunno.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6717|Chicago, IL

Nessie09 wrote:

But what about 3GB
Well, I suppose there aren't a lot of people with that.

And yes, more is most of the times better. Only more RAM in computer = less money in wallet.
  i have 3GB!
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6808|Long Island, New York
4's better than 2? No wai!
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6827|Kent, UK

Nessie09 wrote:

But what about 3GB
Well, I suppose there aren't a lot of people with that.

And yes, more is most of the times better. Only more RAM in computer = less money in wallet.
3x1gb would most likely mean no dual channel, so slower than 2x1gb (assuming all the sticks are identical).
Or am I waay off the mark here?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

sergeriver wrote:

I'd say that running Vista 4 GB is a must.
Only if you play games. I had Vista running with 2 gigs only. Didn't play any games though.
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Scorpion0x17
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mikkel wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

mikkel wrote:


Is it just me, or is 2^64 closer to 2 exabytes? That's a few orders of magnitude off.
A 64-bit unsigned integer has a range of 0 through to 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 decimal.

An exabyte (EB) is 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 bytes.

So, that's 16EB.
That's 2^64 bits

(2^64)/(2^60) = 16 exabit, or 2 exabyte.
I think the hot weather is making my brain melt.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6808|Long Island, New York

.Sup wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I'd say that running Vista 4 GB is a must.
Only if you play games. I had Vista running with 2 gigs only. Didn't play any games though.
Not true...I'm running Vista Home Premium with 2 gigs of DDR2-800 now and I get 12,000 3D Marks with an 8800 GTX and E6600.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I'd say that running Vista 4 GB is a must.
Only if you play games. I had Vista running with 2 gigs only. Didn't play any games though.
Not true...I'm running Vista Home Premium with 2 gigs of DDR2-800 now and I get 12,000 3D Marks with an 8800 GTX and E6600.
So whats your point? You would get more 3D mark points if you had 4 gigs?
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Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6924

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I'd say that running Vista 4 GB is a must.
Only if you play games. I had Vista running with 2 gigs only. Didn't play any games though.
Not true...I'm running Vista Home Premium with 2 gigs of DDR2-800 now and I get 12,000 3D Marks with an 8800 GTX and E6600.
I'm running Vista Ultimate with 2GB DDR2-667 and I get 11,000 3Dmarks and no stuttering in any recent games at all. TF2, CoD4, WiC, etc etc. all run stutter-free. on my PC, vista barely uses more ram than XP. An upgrade to 4GB might increase load times but it's far from essential.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6808|Long Island, New York

.Sup wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:


Only if you play games. I had Vista running with 2 gigs only. Didn't play any games though.
Not true...I'm running Vista Home Premium with 2 gigs of DDR2-800 now and I get 12,000 3D Marks with an 8800 GTX and E6600.
So whats your point? You would get more 3D mark points if you had 4 gigs?
Serge said that running 4gb with Vista is a must and you said you need 4 gigs if you play games on Vista... I'm saying it's not necessary?
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Not true...I'm running Vista Home Premium with 2 gigs of DDR2-800 now and I get 12,000 3D Marks with an 8800 GTX and E6600.
So whats your point? You would get more 3D mark points if you had 4 gigs?
Serge said that running 4gb with Vista is a must and you said you need 4 gigs if you play games on Vista... I'm saying it's not necessary?
It is not necessary but 4gb will give you significant reduction in loading times and make OS more "responsive" when multitasking if you know what I mean.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6808|Long Island, New York

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:


So whats your point? You would get more 3D mark points if you had 4 gigs?
Serge said that running 4gb with Vista is a must and you said you need 4 gigs if you play games on Vista... I'm saying it's not necessary?
It is not necessary but 4gb will give you significant reduction in loading times and make OS more "responsive" when multitasking if you know what I mean.
Yes, but it's not "a must". In fact, I do just fine in games like CoH, Flight Sim X especially as I'm training for flight school, Crysis...etc. I had pretty decent FPS in Crysis.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Not true...I'm running Vista Home Premium with 2 gigs of DDR2-800 now and I get 12,000 3D Marks with an 8800 GTX and E6600.
So whats your point? You would get more 3D mark points if you had 4 gigs?
Serge said that running 4gb with Vista is a must and you said you need 4 gigs if you play games on Vista... I'm saying it's not necessary?
Miss understood you. Well i read a lot of forums and they all recommend 4Gb in Vista for gaming.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6808|Long Island, New York

.Sup wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:


So whats your point? You would get more 3D mark points if you had 4 gigs?
Serge said that running 4gb with Vista is a must and you said you need 4 gigs if you play games on Vista... I'm saying it's not necessary?
Miss understood you. Well i read a lot of forums and they all recommend 4Gb in Vista for gaming.
Oh I'm sure it'd help me. But it's not necessary for me right now. I'd rather look ahead to when Nehalem comes out in the winter so I can upgrade to DDR3 instead of wasting away money on DDR2 now.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6424|what

TheAussieReaper says that 4GB is bigger than 2GB
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

Poseidon wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Serge said that running 4gb with Vista is a must and you said you need 4 gigs if you play games on Vista... I'm saying it's not necessary?
Miss understood you. Well i read a lot of forums and they all recommend 4Gb in Vista for gaming.
Oh I'm sure it'd help me. But it's not necessary for me right now. I'd rather look ahead to when Nehalem comes out in the winter so I can upgrade to DDR3 instead of wasting away money on DDR2 now.
I got my DDR2 memory for 50€ thats 65$. (2GB 1066MHz) Thats cheap for the memory I have and it has Micron D9 chips which is the best memory chip available. I think I won't be going with DDR3 anytime soon.
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

I could get 4gb pretty decent ddr2 with lifetime warranty for 45€. I would say it is worth it even tho we who are getting Nehalem will jump to DDR3 next year.
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I could get 4gb pretty decent ddr2 with lifetime warranty for 45€. I would say it is worth it even tho we who are getting Nehalem will jump to DDR3 next year.
It will be DDR3 only compatible? Is it confirmed?
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

.Sup wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I could get 4gb pretty decent ddr2 with lifetime warranty for 45€. I would say it is worth it even tho we who are getting Nehalem will jump to DDR3 next year.
It will be DDR3 only compatible? Is it confirmed?
it is confirmed. It has integrated 2 or 3 channel DDR3 controller. some low end ones might have DDR2 support but expect them to use different socket.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-05-06 15:54:19)

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Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7114|Reykjavík, Iceland.
A few hours before I saw this thread I decided to buy another 2 gigs of RAM tomorrow.

Now I'm even more excited after reading the .pdf.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

PBAsydney wrote:

A few hours before I saw this thread I decided to buy another 2 gigs of RAM tomorrow.

Now I'm even more excited after reading the .pdf.
So from tomorrow on you will have 2032 MB of RAM?

Last edited by .Sup (2008-05-06 15:58:59)

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