I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
So, when's the next guy taking his place?
Doesn't matter. He'll fall faster.Poseidon wrote:
So, when's the next guy taking his place?
*So does that game you glorify in your sig allow you to kill soldiers too along with cops? Nice.
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I barely even care about the mid-east conflicts anymore. Its all the same.
Right. Haven't you learned the way that terrorism works? One guys falls, and another's set-up to take his place.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Doesn't matter. He'll fall faster.Poseidon wrote:
So, when's the next guy taking his place?
This guy lasted a little less than 2 years. Al Zarqawi lasted how many? 2, right?
Well we must be sure we don't inconvenience him in any way and always say "pretty please" when questioning him. Otherwise, we'd be torturing him, and we certainly can't have that...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I think AMZ lasted 3 or 4.Poseidon wrote:
Right. Haven't you learned the way that terrorism works? One guys falls, and another's set-up to take his place.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Doesn't matter. He'll fall faster.Poseidon wrote:
So, when's the next guy taking his place?
This guy lasted a little less than 2 years. Al Zarqawi lasted how many? 2, right?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
It matters operationally.Poseidon wrote:
Right. Haven't you learned the way that terrorism works? One guys falls, and another's set-up to take his place.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Doesn't matter. He'll fall faster.Poseidon wrote:
So, when's the next guy taking his place?
This guy lasted a little less than 2 years. Al Zarqawi lasted how many? 2, right?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
4? He died in June 2006...we only invaded in 2003.FEOS wrote:
I think AMZ lasted 3 or 4.Poseidon wrote:
Right. Haven't you learned the way that terrorism works? One guys falls, and another's set-up to take his place.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Doesn't matter. He'll fall faster.
This guy lasted a little less than 2 years. Al Zarqawi lasted how many? 2, right?
No!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7391423.stm
Irrelevant anyway. Their kind of terrorism is open source. Anyone from Timbuktu to Tokyo can take a notion to cause bloody mayhem in the name of their 'cause' at any time of day or night. 'Leaders' are relatively inconsequential.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7391423.stm
Irrelevant anyway. Their kind of terrorism is open source. Anyone from Timbuktu to Tokyo can take a notion to cause bloody mayhem in the name of their 'cause' at any time of day or night. 'Leaders' are relatively inconsequential.
Don't forget the biscuits and complimentary massageFEOS wrote:
Well we must be sure we don't inconvenience him in any way and always say "pretty please" when questioning him. Otherwise, we'd be torturing him, and we certainly can't have that...
Like these people need a leader they never meet in person to strap C4 to themselves and run into the nearest Humvee.
Your so anxious to justify the total fuck up that is the Iraqi war/invasion/nation building that you didn't even get past the first line of the article you linked to. You just jumped on here with, "I was right all along. The millions of displaced people, the billions of dollars wasted, the thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives lost are all justified because they/we got a leader who will be replaced in hours"
"However, the U.S. military on Friday said there were "no operational reports" to confirm the capture of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq as stated by Iraqi officials, adding the capture of another insurgent might have caused confusion."
"However, the U.S. military on Friday said there were "no operational reports" to confirm the capture of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq as stated by Iraqi officials, adding the capture of another insurgent might have caused confusion."
Getting rid of a dictator who's committed horrific atricities is a "total fuck up". Riiiight. Sorry for jumping the gun in celebration. Wait. No, I'm really not sorry in the least. I'm confident he'll be caught/killed eventually.JahManRed wrote:
Your so anxious to justify the total fuck up that is the Iraqi war/invasion/nation building that you didn't even get past the first line of the article you linked to. You just jumped on here with, "I was right all along. The millions of displaced people, the billions of dollars wasted, the thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives lost are all justified because they/we got a leader who will be replaced in hours"
"However, the U.S. military on Friday said there were "no operational reports" to confirm the capture of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq as stated by Iraqi officials, adding the capture of another insurgent might have caused confusion."
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Didn't you sell said dictator weapons? Riiiiiiiight.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Getting rid of a dictator who's committed horrific atricities is a "total fuck up". Riiiight. Sorry for jumping the gun in celebration. Wait. No, I'm really not sorry in the least. I'm confident he'll be caught/killed eventually.
If this is your definition of a success, I baulk at what a failure is.
Basically what you've done is destabilize much of the region, awaken ancient secterian + tribal conflicts and gave Iran shitloads of leverage.
And you were so eager to go into Iraq you decided to all but ignore Afghanistan, making what should've been a solid, strong platform into a now delicately poised situation.
Basically what you've done is destabilize much of the region, awaken ancient secterian + tribal conflicts and gave Iran shitloads of leverage.
And you were so eager to go into Iraq you decided to all but ignore Afghanistan, making what should've been a solid, strong platform into a now delicately poised situation.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Who are you talking about, Osamba, who murdered thousands of Americans? Or Saddam who never posed a threat to anyone in the west? Or perhaps you are talking about this opportunist leader who is only a figure head to fanatics and who can be replaced in minutes?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Getting rid of a dictator who's committed horrific atrocities is a "total fuck up". Riiiight. Sorry for jumping the gun in celebration. Wait. No, I'm really not sorry in the least. I'm confident he'll be caught/killed eventually.JahManRed wrote:
Your so anxious to justify the total fuck up that is the Iraqi war/invasion/nation building that you didn't even get past the first line of the article you linked to. You just jumped on here with, "I was right all along. The millions of displaced people, the billions of dollars wasted, the thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives lost are all justified because they/we got a leader who will be replaced in hours"
"However, the U.S. military on Friday said there were "no operational reports" to confirm the capture of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq as stated by Iraqi officials, adding the capture of another insurgent might have caused confusion."
I don't know. If I was family of someone lost in 9/11 "eventually" wouldn't be good enough. What, eventually after we have invaded Iran? Eventually we will get Osaba when we keep knocking of leader after leader in Iraqi until every Sunni male in Iraqi is dead? When is the USA going to actually fight its war on terror instead of its war off terror? And take the fight to the terrorist instead of creating them?
Got me thinking about the crusades. The last time westerners went off on a cleansing mission in the middle east on the last crusade, they, in fact, after 200 years, strengthened Islam. The Muslims took on the Murderous Christian holey warrior mentality and have run with it since. They strengthened Islam exponentially, undoing the work of their predecessors. Perhaps we are at the beginning of another Crusade (Bushes words, not mine) and a new age of interference with the middle east.(don't think we ever stopped interfering) The end result will be the same. The strengthening and further radicalisation of Islam globally. And just like the final Crusaders, it was all about money and they where ultimately fucked by Venation traders, the forefathers of capitalism, which is the real reason behind the latest "liberation" of the middle east. /lament
Funny that the US supported Saddam when he was comitting said atrocities.Getting rid of a dictator who's committed horrific atricities is a "total fuck up". Riiiight. Sorry for jumping the gun in celebration.
Fuck Israel
Correct, because then we would be evil godless terrorists just like him.Well we must be sure we don't inconvenience him in any way and always say "pretty please" when questioning him. Otherwise, we'd be torturing him, and we certainly can't have that...
Fuck Israel
Jihad!
From the article: "Thousands of civilians already have fled Sadr City — home to nearly 40 percent of Baghdad's population — and aid groups say some areas are desperately short of food and medicine after seven weeks of street battles."
That doesn't sound like good news to me.
That doesn't sound like good news to me.
So wouldn't that make it our responsibility to get them back? Riiiight.CameronPoe wrote:
Didn't you sell said dictator weapons? Riiiiiiiight.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Getting rid of a dictator who's committed horrific atrocities is a "total fuck up". Riiiight. Sorry for jumping the gun in celebration. Wait. No, I'm really not sorry in the least. I'm confident he'll be caught/killed eventually.
Failure would have been doing nothing, or bitching about how long it's taking. Eager to go into Iraq? No, we weren't -But Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions helped immensely. I guess thing were much simpler over there back when saddam could just gas those he disliked. Yea, I don't buy your analysis of Afghanistan either.Spark wrote:
If this is your definition of a success, I baulk at what a failure is.
Basically what you've done is destabilize much of the region, awaken ancient secterian + tribal conflicts and gave Iran shitloads of leverage.
And you were so eager to go into Iraq you decided to all but ignore Afghanistan, making what should've been a solid, strong platform into a now delicately poised situation.
So why weren't you bitching then?Dilbert_X wrote:
Funny that the US supported Saddam when he was comitting said atrocities.Getting rid of a dictator who's committed horrific atricities is a "total fuck up". Riiiight. Sorry for jumping the gun in celebration.
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I get it - against all honorable principles sell weapons to dictators (preferably ones with oil) so that at a later date you can 'invade to spread freedom and democracy' (using serious heavy weaponry to do it). Now I realise why you've been selling so much materiel to Saudi Arabia!DBBrinson1 wrote:
So wouldn't that make it our responsibility to get them back? Riiiight.
Look at the context of the time and situation that was occuring when the US sold weapons to Saddam. Pretty sure we wanted to be friends...CameronPoe wrote:
I get it - against all honorable principles sell weapons to dictators (preferably ones with oil) so that at a later date you can 'invade to spread freedom and democracy' (using serious heavy weaponry to do it). Now I realise why you've been selling so much materiel to Saudi Arabia!DBBrinson1 wrote:
So wouldn't that make it our responsibility to get them back? Riiiight.
Hehe. Don't forget about the F-14's we sold Iran, now only if we could get Chavez to buy some of our stuff....
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.