BF2S Forums Is John McCain A Racist

Ender2309 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

“Islam is an anti-Christ religion that intends, though violence, to conquer the world.”
Yep, and not racist.

That point there is very silly. Islam as a religion worships Christ as one of the most important prophets. They have nothing against Christ.

thats like saying an atheist who believes he was a skilled carpenter believes in Christ. they worship him, yes, but not in the same way; he's not the son of god to them. essentially, being anti-Christ means you don't believe in Christ as the savior of the human race/son of God.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-05-12 00:38:25)

Stingray24 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

You guys oppose religion every day in this forum.  Are you racist?   Thread fails.

While religion tends to disgust me, I don't say things like "Christianity should be destroyed."  So maybe you could say I'm prejudiced towards religion, but I'm not interested in killing anyone over it (unlike Rod Parsley apparently).

“Islam is an anti-Christ religion that intends, though violence, to conquer the world.”
Yep, and not racist.   

i disagree, if a Muslim attacks a country its the individual/group to blame, not their religion.
if you ask me to compare Islam and Christianity, Christianity has far more blood on its hands so its hypocritical for someone like him to say this sort of comment.
and the bit about through violence, isn't that what the U.S is famous for, you know, bomb a country and FORCE their democracy, then let in missionaries to convert everyone to Christianity?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=98872&p=1

“The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed.”
Hmmm, no.  Racist comment?  No. 

If Hitler says wanted the jews destroyed would that be racist?
Jews were scapegoats in Germany and other places, being blamed from things like the economy and so on.
I can only see me scapegoating


“America has historically understood herself to be a bastion against Islam in the world.”
Radical Islam, yes.  Still not racist. 

he said Islam, changing words to be apologetic doesn't help


“In fact … I do not believe our nation can fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam.”
I'd like to hear the whole message to understand what he's talking about, but no racism here either. 

maybe the conflicts the U.S has been having in the middle east but i will give you this quote. but what is "fulfill its divine purpose"


“When it comes to Islam, now the greatest religious enemy of our civilization in the world, it’s dangerous.”
Is not radical Islam the greatest religious enemy of western civilization?  Not racist to point that out. 


no,western extremists who bomb nations just to change the regime they don't like are the real threat to this planet and the west itself. If my country was attack i WOULD RETALIATE


http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=98872&p=1

I'm not seeing the racist or Hitler connection here guys.


open your eyes, john McCain is the new Hitler, he is worse then Bush and will bend over and do anyhing to please Israel, as he is a right wing christian fascist, the most dangerous people in the west to the west itself


+1 to FEOS too

FEOS wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Hagee isn't McCain's pastor. He's a pastor who has endored McCain. That is a key difference.

Yes, but Rod Parsley is a close personal friend of McCain.  Parsley being the main figure in the video shown in this thread.

OK. Now having had a chance to watch it...here's why it's different:

Obama's preacher railed against America.
This guy (NOT McCain's pastor, BTW...McCain's from Arizona, this guy's in Ohio) railed against Islam.

If McCain were running for President of the Islamic States of America, it might be a parallel. It's not.

rammunition wrote:

we read before of Barack Obama's pastor and has said a few crazy things. Many say Obama shares his views but he has distanced himself many times. His Pastor has gotten attention from the media many times.

BUT

have you heard of John McCain's pastor?
This guy sounds like Hitler
watch this

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mcc … ce=rgemail

i don't watch of American media but has McCain's pastor got as much attention as Obama's in the Media???
Has McCain distanced himself from these comments?

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-05-12 05:27:18)

Bertster7 wrote:

Also, the Bible is full of shit.

FEOS wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

So, it doesn't bother you that McCain has a spiritual advisor equally as nutty as Wright?  Hmm... selective reasoning here.  Nice job with the partisan politics.

Did you read the differentiation between the two? There's nothing selective about the reasoning, and nothing partisan about it. If the situation were reversed (McCain's guy preaching against America and Obama's preaching against Islam), I would say the same thing.

Last edited by rammunition (2008-05-13 04:38:02)

rammunition wrote:

with this "spiritual guide" saying he wants islam to be destroyed is like Bin Laden saying he wants the west/non-believers to be killed/destroyed.


thats would make him an extremist aswell

If McCain becomes president, then we are all in trouble

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I bet he doesn't like the North Vietnamese.

Pug wrote:

rammunition wrote:

he may not be on the same level of OBL but they seem to have the same thinking minds

Why do you think they have the same thinking?

ps. wat's obl?

Pug wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Pug wrote:

Why do you think they have the same thinking?

ps. wat's obl?

OBL- Osama Bin Laden


calling for a religion or followers of a religion to be destroyed is extreme, i would put this guy on the level of Hitler  because of what he did to the jews, If McCain gets elected what would happen to the muslims?

k, so you made me watch the whole video instead of just the beginning.

Where did McCain say he wants to kill all the muslims?

Pug wrote:

rammunition wrote:

with this "spiritual guide" saying he wants islam to be destroyed is like Bin Laden saying he wants the west/non-believers to be killed/destroyed.


thats would make him an extremist aswell

If McCain becomes president, then we are all in trouble

I think you're overstating the facts.

This is not credible at all.

It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God’s chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day.

How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for his chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings he had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.

All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are — were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.