BF2S Forums Asus P5N-D: Good or bad motherboard.

that PWm look very weak. And I don't like weak Asus PWMs... I had enough problems with them

edit: I haven't seen any reviews either so I'll look for some actual user reviews and see what they think.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-05-11 05:20:12)

erm this may sound dumd but what is "PWM"??

']['error wrote:

erm this may sound dumd but what is "PWM"??

Panzer knows. Especially how they break

Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:

erm this may sound dumd but what is "PWM"??

Panzer knows. Especially how they break

power management. Components around the cpu socket in this motherboard look low quality and they don't have any cooling. The board also has 4 pin cpu power connector instead of the better 8 pin one.
You can see this board has 4-phase design.

I have had few boards with weak PWM and I tell you it is not fun. My last Asus board with weak PWM squaled high piched noise ALL THE TIME and had massive voltage drop on vcore.

If you plan on doing ANY OC at all, stay away. Stock use for dual core CPU is ok but quad and any oc is no no on that board. Unless you want to have a risk of killing some stuff in your rig... (damn asus board fried two of my PSUs for example... and then fried itself lol)

Assuming he has a budget up to 110,00, I would get this 1 actually
http://www.alternate.nl/html/productDet … tno=GPEM64



(FU MSI haters)

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Assuming he has a budget up to 110,00, I would get this 1 actually
http://www.alternate.nl/html/productDet … tno=GPEM64



(FU MSI haters)

that does beat the Asus 100-0. Although I personally won't be getting MSI... ever... but I have my reasons

Well I'm actually planning to overclock my E6600, just like I have on this motherboard (gigabyte P35-S3). Not very much, probably to 3ghz. So the asus isn't an option.

EVGA 750i FTW is expensive, 30 euro's more and you have an 780i motherboard . It's also hard to get here in the netherlands.

edit: XFX 780i is €177 cheapest here. Evga 750i FTW is 160

Last edited by ']['error (2008-05-11 12:02:55)

kylef wrote:

Out of curiosity - why the nForce 7xx series?

good point. The 6 series should be fine too

max wrote:

kylef wrote:

Out of curiosity - why the nForce 7xx series?

good point. The 6 series should be fine too

Because the new 7xx series have PCI-e 2.0 and the 8800GT also has PCI-e 2.0.

Well on that MSI-board: it looks good, but you guys always told me MSI is full of shit. So I'm a bit afraid that it will melt/breakdown after 6 months.

I don't know what you guys call "major overclocking" but I'm planning to overclock my E6600 to 3.0ghz (just like now on my p35-S3).

with that Asus board you should expect to have massive voltage drop because of the weak PWM. That will make overclocking hard because the vcore will be so low/unstable even at stock settings.

My experience with that kind of PWM was that although it seemed to give stable voltage (massive vdop none the less), it crashed because the board had huge drop in vcore for a second. Happened randomly and was enough to give BSOD.

EDIT: pci-e 2.0 won't give you any performance increase. Not needed until the true nexct generation gfx cards (GT200 successor etc.) are out.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-05-12 02:31:46)

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

']['error wrote:

max wrote:

good point. The 6 series should be fine too

Because the new 7xx series have PCI-e 2.0 and the 8800GT also has PCI-e 2.0.

Well on that MSI-board: it looks good, but you guys always told me MSI is full of shit. So I'm a bit afraid that it will melt/breakdown after 6 months.

I don't know what you guys call "major overclocking" but I'm planning to overclock my E6600 to 3.0ghz (just like now on my p35-S3).

Dude, thats Finland, eskimo's and mooses walk around there. I've had several MSI boards using them more than 3 years and none of them went Chernobyl, if 1 brand/card always failed on me, it were Radeons. I reccomend the ASUS one aswell as the P7N, but P7N over ASUS if you want to do some OCing.

LOL eskimo's en mooses hahaha . is that MSI-board capable of handling an OC'd Q9450?

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Intel® Pentium® 4 EE (Prestonia), Intel® Pentium® 4 5xx, Intel® Pentium® 4 6xx, Intel® Pentium® D 8xx, Intel® Pentium® D 9xx, Intel® Pentium® 4 6xx (Cedar Mill), Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6xxx (Conroe), Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Q6xxx (Kentsfield), Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4xxx (Allendale), Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E2xxx (Conroe-L), Intel® Celeron® D 4xx (Conroe-L), Q9xxx (Yorkfield), E8xxx (Wolfdale), Celeon E1xxx (Conroe-L)

Yes I read that too . But my question is: can I overclock it on that motherboard without BSOD's?