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2008-05-13 19:48:26
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA
Pozdrav!  I just registered as a member of the Libertarian Party.  I also donated $25.

Before you start thinking the Libertarians are a lost cause because of their third party status, I suggest you do some research.  We have the potential of being attractive to converts from both major parties.  Bob Barr used to be a Republican, Mike Gravel used to be a Democrat, we're growing.  In 2000 the LP got .04% of the popular vote, and in 2004 we got .32% of the popular vote.

It's a sad thing that the third parties are seen often as little more than jokes.  I just wanted to let you know my new political swaying.  I'll post a pic later with my membership card when I get it!
2008-05-13 19:50:55
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7130|67.222.138.85
I congratulate you on your meaningless membership and your useless donation.
2008-05-13 19:53:42
SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|7061|Amsterdam, NY

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I congratulate you on your meaningless membership and your useless donation.
I congratulate you on being a berk.
2008-05-13 19:54:52
Smithereener
Member
+138|6739|California
I believe the membership for both Republican and Democrats have been decreasing for the most part; they still have considerable power, but it's been slipping I think.

Anyway, Congratulations - I'm not 18 yet, and even when I turn 18, I doubt I'll register as anything but "Decline to State." I still think Third Parties are too weak to actually change this nation (shame IMO), and I dislike both Dems + Reps the same.
2008-05-13 19:57:08
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7130|67.222.138.85

SgtSlutter wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I congratulate you on your meaningless membership and your useless donation.
I congratulate you on being a berk.
Confining yourself to one party in every aspect does nothing but degrade the nation. It is no better than being a hardcore Republican or Democrat.

Significance? You multiplied your total vote by 8 to a whole third of a percent? That's makes the party a significant political force?

I'm sure there are a lot of people that donate to their political party/candidate. I'm not sure why we need to be bragging about it.
2008-05-13 20:00:26
SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|7061|Amsterdam, NY

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SgtSlutter wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I congratulate you on your meaningless membership and your useless donation.
I congratulate you on being a berk.
Confining yourself to one party in every aspect does nothing but degrade the nation. It is no better than being a hardcore Republican or Democrat.

Significance? You multiplied your total vote by 8 to a whole third of a percent? That's makes the party a significant political force?

I'm sure there are a lot of people that donate to their political party/candidate. I'm not sure why we need to be bragging about it.
Bragging about most things is usually unnecessary, but it's also unnecessary to be a berk tbh.
2008-05-13 20:01:55
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7130|67.222.138.85

SgtSlutter wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SgtSlutter wrote:


I congratulate you on being a berk.
Confining yourself to one party in every aspect does nothing but degrade the nation. It is no better than being a hardcore Republican or Democrat.

Significance? You multiplied your total vote by 8 to a whole third of a percent? That's makes the party a significant political force?

I'm sure there are a lot of people that donate to their political party/candidate. I'm not sure why we need to be bragging about it.
Bragging about most things is usually unnecessary, but it's also unnecessary to be a berk tbh.
Patriotic duty to make people aware they're hurting the cause of their party and of their nation by being so one-minded.
2008-05-13 20:17:14
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7129

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I congratulate you on your meaningless membership and your useless donation.
That was really uncalled for. 

Yay Libertarians!
2008-05-13 20:21:18
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7129

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SgtSlutter wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I congratulate you on your meaningless membership and your useless donation.
I congratulate you on being a berk.
Confining yourself to one party in every aspect does nothing but degrade the nation. It is no better than being a hardcore Republican or Democrat.

Significance? You multiplied your total vote by 8 to a whole third of a percent? That's makes the party a significant political force?

I'm sure there are a lot of people that donate to their political party/candidate. I'm not sure why we need to be bragging about it.
Just because he joined the party does not mean that he is close minded.  I intend to join a party as soon as I am able.  I do not wholeheartedly agree with any of the parties, but I'd like to be able to vote in the primaries, something that independents can't do.
2008-05-13 20:47:01
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6993|Portland, OR, USA
lol at parties making us think that we're voting for different things

Plutocracies
2008-05-13 21:27:53
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA
The libertarians support a smaller government, with lower state control.  The United States really is becoming sort of statist in the way the government makes laws that creep into our daily lives.  Americans are sort of stupid, mostly because they don't take responsibility for their own actions and learn from the concequences, mostly.  You ride a bike without a helmet, you get a ticket, you ride a bike again without a helmet, you get another ticket, then oneday your skull splits down the middle in a terrible accident.  Otherwise, you'd maybe ride a bike with no handlebars, and fall and maybe get some bruises, then you put handlebars on your freaking bike!

Many laws are against victimless or non-violent crimes.  Prison systems mix non-violent and violent offenders, and thus turn non-violent people who made a mistake into, potentially, violent people with Nazi tattoos.  Now that they're trying to tell people how to educate their children and what they can and cannot do with their bodies, the state's power is growing, especially with the Patriot Act.

A funny thing about the Patriot Act is that the number of terrorism procecutions is far less than the amount of wire-tappings and the like.  Also, the Republican Party used to be really small.  The Libertarians just need the boost they got, and I believe it may have to do with McCain.  A lot of people actually voted for Huckabee in the primaries, though, McCain is less conservative, and the people who voted for Huckabee were conservatives.  All we can hope for is a schism within one of the greater Parties.
2008-05-14 13:19:24
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7138|US
Yay libertarianism!
Unfortunately, the Libertarian Party does not hold much sway...but hey, making their ideals heard is a good thing.
2008-05-14 13:34:33
Laika
Member
+75|6367
No third party will ever be elected until our election process is reformed. I'm hoping the next president will fix our illogical system to something more in line with the democratic ideals this nation was founded on.
2008-05-14 14:32:14
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7072

Don't worry about FM, he just gets grumpy unless he gets to put down a couple of people everyday.
2008-05-14 14:43:28
AutralianChainsaw
Member
+65|6621
Congrats

Its time for the americans to start looking at the third party option.
2008-05-14 15:26:00
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA

ghettoperson wrote:

Don't worry about FM, he just gets grumpy unless he gets to put down a couple of people everyday.
Honestly, I lol'd.
2008-05-14 15:28:10
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SgtSlutter wrote:


I congratulate you on being a berk.
Confining yourself to one party in every aspect does nothing but degrade the nation. It is no better than being a hardcore Republican or Democrat.

Significance? You multiplied your total vote by 8 to a whole third of a percent? That's makes the party a significant political force?

I'm sure there are a lot of people that donate to their political party/candidate. I'm not sure why we need to be bragging about it.
Just because he joined the party does not mean that he is close minded.  I intend to join a party as soon as I am able.  I do not wholeheartedly agree with any of the parties, but I'd like to be able to vote in the primaries, something that independents can't do.
That depends on which state you live in.  In North Carolina, primaries for both parties are semi-open (sometimes referred to also as semi-closed), so independents (like myself) get to pick which primary they vote in.  Of course, you can't vote in both during the same season.
2008-05-14 16:00:20
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


Confining yourself to one party in every aspect does nothing but degrade the nation. It is no better than being a hardcore Republican or Democrat.

Significance? You multiplied your total vote by 8 to a whole third of a percent? That's makes the party a significant political force?

I'm sure there are a lot of people that donate to their political party/candidate. I'm not sure why we need to be bragging about it.
Just because he joined the party does not mean that he is close minded.  I intend to join a party as soon as I am able.  I do not wholeheartedly agree with any of the parties, but I'd like to be able to vote in the primaries, something that independents can't do.
That depends on which state you live in.  In North Carolina, primaries for both parties are semi-open (sometimes referred to also as semi-closed), so independents (like myself) get to pick which primary they vote in.  Of course, you can't vote in both during the same season.
Obviously.

Sometimes I think either way we're screwed.

Hilary wins: Black community pissed, black panthers burn shit, since they support Obama.

Obama wins: White supremacists either get pissed off, or leave.  If he gets assassinated, the black panthers may burn shit.

McCain wins: War with Iran, war with Russia, etc.  Great Depression strikes the nation again, we're all fucked.
2008-05-14 16:04:24
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6766|tropical regions of london
someone here really likes attention
2008-05-14 16:05:08
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

FallenMorgan wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:


Just because he joined the party does not mean that he is close minded.  I intend to join a party as soon as I am able.  I do not wholeheartedly agree with any of the parties, but I'd like to be able to vote in the primaries, something that independents can't do.
That depends on which state you live in.  In North Carolina, primaries for both parties are semi-open (sometimes referred to also as semi-closed), so independents (like myself) get to pick which primary they vote in.  Of course, you can't vote in both during the same season.
Obviously.

Sometimes I think either way we're screwed.

Hilary wins: Black community pissed, black panthers burn shit, since they support Obama.

Obama wins: White supremacists either get pissed off, or leave.  If he gets assassinated, the black panthers may burn shit.

McCain wins: War with Iran, war with Russia, etc.  Great Depression strikes the nation again, we're all fucked.
I think you'll find that the Black Panthers don't really exist in any significant fashion these days.  The racial angst you point to is definitely out there, but I think it's often overblown.

If anything, what's probably most likely to happen is that, if Obama gets elected, someone will assassinate him and with the possible help of an insider (...probably like last time).
2008-05-14 16:09:18
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA

Turquoise wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


That depends on which state you live in.  In North Carolina, primaries for both parties are semi-open (sometimes referred to also as semi-closed), so independents (like myself) get to pick which primary they vote in.  Of course, you can't vote in both during the same season.
Obviously.

Sometimes I think either way we're screwed.

Hilary wins: Black community pissed, black panthers burn shit, since they support Obama.

Obama wins: White supremacists either get pissed off, or leave.  If he gets assassinated, the black panthers may burn shit.

McCain wins: War with Iran, war with Russia, etc.  Great Depression strikes the nation again, we're all fucked.
I think you'll find that the Black Panthers don't really exist in any significant fashion these days.  The racial angst you point to is definitely out there, but I think it's often overblown.

If anything, what's probably most likely to happen is that, if Obama gets elected, someone will assassinate him and with the possible help of an insider (...probably like last time).
That's what my dad implied from watching CNN.  I honestly don't believe it.
2008-05-14 16:28:36
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7130|67.222.138.85

FallenMorgan wrote:

The libertarians support a smaller government, with lower state control.  The United States really is becoming sort of statist in the way the government makes laws that creep into our daily lives.  Americans are sort of stupid, mostly because they don't take responsibility for their own actions and learn from the concequences, mostly.  You ride a bike without a helmet, you get a ticket, you ride a bike again without a helmet, you get another ticket, then oneday your skull splits down the middle in a terrible accident.  Otherwise, you'd maybe ride a bike with no handlebars, and fall and maybe get some bruises, then you put handlebars on your freaking bike!

Many laws are against victimless or non-violent crimes.  Prison systems mix non-violent and violent offenders, and thus turn non-violent people who made a mistake into, potentially, violent people with Nazi tattoos.  Now that they're trying to tell people how to educate their children and what they can and cannot do with their bodies, the state's power is growing, especially with the Patriot Act.

A funny thing about the Patriot Act is that the number of terrorism procecutions is far less than the amount of wire-tappings and the like.  Also, the Republican Party used to be really small.  The Libertarians just need the boost they got, and I believe it may have to do with McCain.  A lot of people actually voted for Huckabee in the primaries, though, McCain is less conservative, and the people who voted for Huckabee were conservatives.  All we can hope for is a schism within one of the greater Parties.
Ideals mean zero without popular opinion to back it up. You had less of the popular vote than Nader in 2004, and your paper card and $25 isn't going to change anything.
2008-05-14 16:44:07
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6978
Glad I live in Ireland tbh... two party system ftl...
2008-05-14 18:21:56
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

The libertarians support a smaller government, with lower state control.  The United States really is becoming sort of statist in the way the government makes laws that creep into our daily lives.  Americans are sort of stupid, mostly because they don't take responsibility for their own actions and learn from the concequences, mostly.  You ride a bike without a helmet, you get a ticket, you ride a bike again without a helmet, you get another ticket, then oneday your skull splits down the middle in a terrible accident.  Otherwise, you'd maybe ride a bike with no handlebars, and fall and maybe get some bruises, then you put handlebars on your freaking bike!

Many laws are against victimless or non-violent crimes.  Prison systems mix non-violent and violent offenders, and thus turn non-violent people who made a mistake into, potentially, violent people with Nazi tattoos.  Now that they're trying to tell people how to educate their children and what they can and cannot do with their bodies, the state's power is growing, especially with the Patriot Act.

A funny thing about the Patriot Act is that the number of terrorism procecutions is far less than the amount of wire-tappings and the like.  Also, the Republican Party used to be really small.  The Libertarians just need the boost they got, and I believe it may have to do with McCain.  A lot of people actually voted for Huckabee in the primaries, though, McCain is less conservative, and the people who voted for Huckabee were conservatives.  All we can hope for is a schism within one of the greater Parties.
Ideals mean zero without popular opinion to back it up. You had less of the popular vote than Nader in 2004, and your paper card and $25 isn't going to change anything.
That's really what sucks.  As long as America is full of Conservatives and the like, the Libertarians have little chance.  It's just one reason why living in a large country sucks.  If McCain wins I'll consider moving to Canada, and hopefully pass through Milton, Washington to pick up my online friend, since she'd probably feel the same about McCain.
2008-05-14 18:26:04
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7130|67.222.138.85

FallenMorgan wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

The libertarians support a smaller government, with lower state control.  The United States really is becoming sort of statist in the way the government makes laws that creep into our daily lives.  Americans are sort of stupid, mostly because they don't take responsibility for their own actions and learn from the concequences, mostly.  You ride a bike without a helmet, you get a ticket, you ride a bike again without a helmet, you get another ticket, then oneday your skull splits down the middle in a terrible accident.  Otherwise, you'd maybe ride a bike with no handlebars, and fall and maybe get some bruises, then you put handlebars on your freaking bike!

Many laws are against victimless or non-violent crimes.  Prison systems mix non-violent and violent offenders, and thus turn non-violent people who made a mistake into, potentially, violent people with Nazi tattoos.  Now that they're trying to tell people how to educate their children and what they can and cannot do with their bodies, the state's power is growing, especially with the Patriot Act.

A funny thing about the Patriot Act is that the number of terrorism procecutions is far less than the amount of wire-tappings and the like.  Also, the Republican Party used to be really small.  The Libertarians just need the boost they got, and I believe it may have to do with McCain.  A lot of people actually voted for Huckabee in the primaries, though, McCain is less conservative, and the people who voted for Huckabee were conservatives.  All we can hope for is a schism within one of the greater Parties.
Ideals mean zero without popular opinion to back it up. You had less of the popular vote than Nader in 2004, and your paper card and $25 isn't going to change anything.
That's really what sucks.  As long as America is full of Conservatives and the like, the Libertarians have little chance.  It's just one reason why living in a large country sucks.  If McCain wins I'll consider moving to Canada, and hopefully pass through Milton, Washington to pick up my online friend, since she'd probably feel the same about McCain.
All your statements except the one about size in government (which is practically ripped from the definition) aren't libertarian, they're just liberal.

 

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