I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
The reason is because they are so utterly interlinked that it would be stupid to talk about one without the other.M.O.A.B wrote:
I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
The Israeli's aren't invovled in what's happened here so there's no need to start talking about them, specifically going back to things that happened months and years ago that have no relevance to what is currently happening.PureFodder wrote:
The reason is because they are so utterly interlinked that it would be stupid to talk about one without the other.M.O.A.B wrote:
I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
Israel is the main reason groups such as hamas and hezbollah exist and were foundedM.O.A.B wrote:
I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
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So because they were founded years ago to fire rockets at Israel its Israel's fault this has happened?rammunition wrote:
Israel is the main reason groups such as hamas and hezbollah exist and were foundedM.O.A.B wrote:
I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
yes it is. If Israel ends the occupation the rockets will stop, these groups are not going to back down till they get free from the oppressors. like i said before for peace Israel has toM.O.A.B wrote:
So because they were founded years ago to fire rockets at Israel its Israel's fault this has happened?rammunition wrote:
Israel is the main reason groups such as hamas and hezbollah exist and were foundedM.O.A.B wrote:
I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
1. Stop all illegal settlements
2. return all occupied land to owners
3. most important END THE OCCUPATION
until then, freedom for these people may have to be fought the hard way and thats attacking the oppressors till they go away.
The ball has and still remains in Israels court for peace, the ball won't be there forever
If Israel pulled out the rockets wouldn't stop, these people don't just want Israel to pull out, they want to destroy them.
they may want to destroy Israel because Israel IS destroying them and their countries so its only a bit of karmaM.O.A.B wrote:
If Israel pulled out the rockets wouldn't stop, these people don't just want Israel to pull out, they want to destroy them.
like i said, if Israel ever wanted peace, which they don't, they would then the occupation
Hezbollah exist primarily to protect the populace of Lebanon form Israel. This would have damaged their ability to do this, hence the background of Israeli attacks on Lebanon is the basis for all of this. This is the context of the situation, hence of prime relavence.M.O.A.B wrote:
So because they were founded years ago to fire rockets at Israel its Israel's fault this has happened?rammunition wrote:
Israel is the main reason groups such as hamas and hezbollah exist and were foundedM.O.A.B wrote:
I'm amazed how it turned from a thread about Hezbollah taking over bits of Lebanon to another 'lez bash Israel cuz theyre evil' thread on the first page.
Right, if israel wants to destroy them, why hasn't it? What's stopping them sending a few bombers over and levelling the place? After all they already go in with gunships and 'deliberately' kill civies.
I can already see Hezbollah using the place to fire from, and what happens then? The Israeli's will respond and then get blamed for taking action.PureFodder wrote:
Hezbollah exist primarily to protect the populace of Lebanon form Israel. This would have damaged their ability to do this, hence the background of Israeli attacks on Lebanon is the basis for all of this. This is the context of the situation, hence of prime relavence.M.O.A.B wrote:
So because they were founded years ago to fire rockets at Israel its Israel's fault this has happened?rammunition wrote:
Israel is the main reason groups such as hamas and hezbollah exist and were founded
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it's better to oust them than kill them.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
i agree, kill the oppressorsm3thod wrote:
it's better to oust them than kill them.
I meant the Israeli strategy is tailored around the premise that it is better to oust the Palestinians from their land and than go in and wholeheartedly slaughter them. People forget about refugees but not massacres.rammunition wrote:
i agree, kill the oppressorsm3thod wrote:
it's better to oust them than kill them.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
If they commit too great an atrocity the US populace will get stroppy about it and Israel risks loosing billions of dollars a year in aid which will cripple the country and they know it. The US has Israel firmly by the balls and can choose to cut and run at will. It's no loss to the US populace if they stop sending their tax dollars to Israel.M.O.A.B wrote:
Right, if israel wants to destroy them, why hasn't it? What's stopping them sending a few bombers over and levelling the place? After all they already go in with gunships and 'deliberately' kill civies.I can already see Hezbollah using the place to fire from, and what happens then? The Israeli's will respond and then get blamed for taking action.PureFodder wrote:
Hezbollah exist primarily to protect the populace of Lebanon form Israel. This would have damaged their ability to do this, hence the background of Israeli attacks on Lebanon is the basis for all of this. This is the context of the situation, hence of prime relavence.M.O.A.B wrote:
So because they were founded years ago to fire rockets at Israel its Israel's fault this has happened?
As far as Israel/Hezbollah exchanging shots across the border goes, it's been going on regularly for decades now with few people on either side caring that much. Israel has happily done their share of provoking Hezbollah and then crying about their response as has Hezbollah.
i agree, Israels tactics aren't very good and do more harm than good, they have the chance to make peace, if they want it that is which still remains the questionm3thod wrote:
I meant the Israeli strategy is tailored around the premise that it is better to oust the Palestinians from their land and than go in and wholeheartedly slaughter them. People forget about refugees but not massacres.rammunition wrote:
i agree, kill the oppressorsm3thod wrote:
it's better to oust them than kill them.
They want it more than Hezbollah, if there's peace what is Hezbollah going to do then? Part of its policy is to destroy Israel. It makes peace, it'll basically disentegrate.rammunition wrote:
i agree, Israels tactics aren't very good and do more harm than good, they have the chance to make peace, if they want it that is which still remains the questionm3thod wrote:
I meant the Israeli strategy is tailored around the premise that it is better to oust the Palestinians from their land and than go in and wholeheartedly slaughter them. People forget about refugees but not massacres.rammunition wrote:
i agree, kill the oppressors
More of it's policy is to defend Lebanon from Israel.M.O.A.B wrote:
They want it more than Hezbollah, if there's peace what is Hezbollah going to do then? Part of its policy is to destroy Israel. It makes peace, it'll basically disentegrate.rammunition wrote:
i agree, Israels tactics aren't very good and do more harm than good, they have the chance to make peace, if they want it that is which still remains the questionm3thod wrote:
I meant the Israeli strategy is tailored around the premise that it is better to oust the Palestinians from their land and than go in and wholeheartedly slaughter them. People forget about refugees but not massacres.
M.O.A.B is right. Its amazing how "Hezbollah DESTROYING Lebanon" turned to "Hezbollah PROTECTING Lebanon from Israel"
Hezbollah is only reacting to its puppet government. But Hezbollah has beaten Israel 2 years ago if you don't rememberLisik wrote:
M.O.A.B is right. Its amazing how "Hezbollah DESTROYING Lebanon" turned to "Hezbollah PROTECTING Lebanon from Israel"
I remember Lebanon turned into crater. And i remember UN running around moaning STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! How hezbollah beaten Israel i don't remember. May you please show us how?
Or maybe you that looser that hitting couple israeli tanks it victory for you?
Or maybe you that looser that hitting couple israeli tanks it victory for you?
eerrrrrrrrr Israeli's goal was to stop rockets and get rid of hezbollah, they epic failed both and that is loosing. If Israel can't handle a small militia group what would happen if they get attacked with nukes?Lisik wrote:
I remember Lebanon turned into crater. And i remember UN running around moaning STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! How hezbollah beaten Israel i don't remember. May you please show us how?
Or maybe you that looser that hitting couple israeli tanks it victory for you?
Here, enjoy your victory!
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you know whats funny?rammunition wrote:
eerrrrrrrrr Israeli's goal was to stop rockets and get rid of hezbollah, they epic failed both and that is loosing. If Israel can't handle a small militia group what would happen if they get attacked with nukes?Lisik wrote:
I remember Lebanon turned into crater. And i remember UN running around moaning STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! How hezbollah beaten Israel i don't remember. May you please show us how?
Or maybe you that looser that hitting couple israeli tanks it victory for you?
when all the countries around israel got together and decided they were going to make them go away.
that didnt work so well for them....not then, and not now.
being surrounded by enemies for your entire existence forces you to possess a superior fighting force.
LOL, hezbollah embarrassed Israel, cartoons are nothing and i can show one of the opposite, they mean nothing. Plus it was the US of A who helped by supplying weapons throughout the war, meaning hezbollah defeated both Israel and America.
yeah , a "fighting force" which couldn't handle a small militia group.Parker wrote:
you know whats funny?rammunition wrote:
eerrrrrrrrr Israeli's goal was to stop rockets and get rid of hezbollah, they epic failed both and that is loosing. If Israel can't handle a small militia group what would happen if they get attacked with nukes?Lisik wrote:
I remember Lebanon turned into crater. And i remember UN running around moaning STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! How hezbollah beaten Israel i don't remember. May you please show us how?
Or maybe you that looser that hitting couple israeli tanks it victory for you?
when all the countries around israel got together and decided they were going to make them go away.
that didnt work so well for them....not then, and not now.
being surrounded by enemies for your entire existence forces you to possess a superior fighting force.