.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7233|Marathon, Florida Keys

FallenMorgan wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

from reading your posts, fallenmorgan, you could tell you never were.
I was once maybe at ten years old or around there.

Mek-Stizzle, there are other ways.  In my elementary school, they had to sit on a bench during recess, got sent home if they were very bad, etc.
I spent more time sitting on the fence at recess during my elementary school period than i did running around. I had detention atleast 2 times a week  and sent home over 30 times in one school year. Your strategy wouldn't work. I have never had a hand laid on me, and im pretty sure that was the problem. I turned out alright though, it was just a kiddie thing.
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6385|Washington DC
i like giving out a certain kind of spanking

edit: I was never spanked as a child. I'd say I'm more mature than a lot of people I know.

Last edited by HurricaИe (2008-05-16 18:08:39)

[-DER-]Omega
membeR
+188|7250|Lithuania
compare the people who were spanked decades ago when it was still allowed to the generation of obnoxious imbeciles that we have today.



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I'm Jamesey
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My mum spanked me when I misbehaved, it worked and put me in my place.

My dad beat me when he was bored or drunk, it was evil child abuse
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6385|Washington DC
Also, maybe it's cause I'm not a parent, but isn't spanking a little awkward? I mean do you pull down their clothes or...?
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7073

Spank me, baby.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2008-05-16 19:42:06)

[-DER-]Omega
membeR
+188|7250|Lithuania

HurricaИe wrote:

Also, maybe it's cause I'm not a parent, but isn't spanking a little awkward? I mean do you pull down their clothes or...?
no need if you're using a belt.
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6385|Washington DC

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Also, maybe it's cause I'm not a parent, but isn't spanking a little awkward? I mean do you pull down their clothes or...?
no need if you're using a belt.
kinky
BVC
Member
+325|7119
Spanking was recently outlawed here, with all the objections present in this thread being raised.  The primary reason for it's outlawing was to help lower child abuse, yet there were already existing laws which covered that.  I personally oppose the ban, for the reason that little kids are often incapable of understanding other punishments.  Whats time out going to do?  Bore the kid into submission?

Damned feelgood hippies
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA
Something like that might be acceptable if a kid like burned the house down or killed a cat, not if they didn't pick up their barbie doll or sth.
ReTox
Member
+100|6922|State of RETOXification
My folks got it right.  I have only been spanked twice in my life and believe me I deserved it.  I'm glad my parents knew enough to beat my ass when it was needed.  I'm very grateful for them putting me on the right track.
agent146
Member
+127|6810|Jesus Land aka Canada
sorry no i think your wrong.
trust me i KNOW i had been a shit starter when i was a little un and i will admit
"time out" does not work
spanking did

also there is a big difference between :
spanking,
going homer simpson on your child,
and going Chris benoit on your child.

Last edited by agent146 (2008-05-16 19:31:19)

mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7078

All that spinal problem bullshit happens to kids whose parents are complete dumbasses and just spank all the time because they can't figure out anything else to do. However, I'm a firm believer in spanking. Sometimes you just have to do it. Don't do it all the time, though, because then it's child abuse and isn't really helping to solve a problem. Still, every once in a while a little twat deserves a nice spanking or two.
Canin
Conservative Roman Catholic
+280|6898|Foothills of S. Carolina

The old adage "Spare the rod, spoil the child" meant that the child would spoil as meat or vegetables spoil. That said, I say spank away if its warranted. I also agree that all this time out crap is not good for anything.

My son is a terror at age 4. He is all boy, built like a brick shit house too. Most I have used on him is a paddle ball paddle. Threatened him with a belt, but he straightened right up. Rarely ever have to spank my daughters.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7190|UK

FallenMorgan wrote:

I'm watching Dr. Phil right now, and it's about spanking.  In my opinion it's an incredibly evil act that counts as child abuse.  What I think is even worse is schools that allow corporal punishment.  It creates the sense of helplessness and fear.  Parents, schools, and so on use helplessness and fear to get the children to behave.  It goes too far sometimes - it can cause spinal problems, testicular damage, and so on.

I hate, especially, when parents use the excuse of "it made me behave when I was a kid."  It worked because it put fear in their young little mind.  Instead of the parent being seen as loving and whatnot, they're seen as wardens or something.  Most 30-something year olds, or younger/older, with kids, cannot remember the fear and whatnot when they were 9 and got spanked very often.  It many times does not work.

It's child abuse in the sense that the children cannot defend themselves.  I think perhaps spanking should be illegal, with a punishment that fits the crime...a spankin'.  Corporal punishment for crimes is illegal in the US, so, here's a question: what makes children exempt from this law?  If a prison inmate is being belligerant, they might be restrained or something, but they aren't hit with a belt.

If you look at it, it's barbaric.  Parents hit their kids with belts, paddles, and so on.  Some parents who spank don't stop there.  They scream, they slap, and so on.
Sorry but raising kids to be spoilt little shits doesn't help anything, spanking works, as you rightly suggested it teaches fear and therefore obedience. Why do you think chav culture is growing so massively in the UK?

Using a belt is definitely wrong, but using an open palm isn't.

I was probably only spanked twenty odd times during my entire childhood.

Last edited by Vilham (2008-05-16 19:51:15)

Doctor Strangelove
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+1,758|6892
Can a mod please dock some of FMorgan's karma?

Who the fuck takes "Doctor" Phil seriously?
belldawg
Serial Jay-Walker
+52|6407|Perth, indian ocean
Nothing wrong with it as long as the parent doesn't take it too far.

Testicular damage?
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7019|Michigan, USA
It works, and it works damn well.  Ill admit, I was spanked as a child, hell my dad had a small piece of timber(like 2 ft long, inch wide, 1/2 inch thick) that hed use to get at us in our old van.  He did it right up until we were old enough to know better. Do I use violence to solve problems? No.  In fact I have a very good grasp on my temper, and it takes a fair bit to get me heated to the point of violence.

Now, as for the time out/grounding thing, my next door neighbors kid are a perfect example of how it doesnt work.  5 and 7 years old, the 5 year old boy gets away with everything, hell the kid through dog crap into our pool, and he got sent inside, 5 minutes later he came back out, his mom yelled, and he ignored her.  The 7 year old girl gets sent to her room all the time.  Get this, she has a TV, DVD/VCR, Laptop with internet, stereo and a phone, plus all her toys and whatnot.  How is it a punishment to be restricted to this?  Those two kids continually run around and trash our property.

Spanking teaches that theres a consequence to your actions, sent to a room full of toys and goodies does not.  Taking away privledges only work if your adamant about it, and becomes ineffective the second the child finds away around it. 

Point is Fallen, you are very young, and whiles its easy to sit back and condem people for physically hurting their child, you never experienced it, I knew I did wrong, I knew what was coming to me for doing, I feared my fathers wrath, but I still love him greatly, and I miss him everyday that hes gone.  It didnt distance me from my father, if anything it formed a stronger bond, one I cant really explain.
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA
5 year olds are 5 year olds, they always act like that, and teaching them to fear and obey their parents isn't the answer.

I don't give a shit anyways, I hate kids.

Last edited by FallenMorgan (2008-05-16 21:49:59)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7130|67.222.138.85

FallenMorgan wrote:

5 year olds are 5 year olds, they always act like that, and teaching them to fear and obey their parents isn't the answer.

I don't give a shit anyways, I hate kids.
You hate kids because your version of a kid is an unruly, disrespectful little shit.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7069

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Some kids are fucking pricks that need to be taught a lesson.
I agree good point meki
agent146
Member
+127|6810|Jesus Land aka Canada

FallenMorgan wrote:

5 year olds are 5 year olds, they always act like that, and teaching them to fear and obey their parents isn't the answer.

I don't give a shit anyways, I hate kids.
hate em? gives yall all the more reason to beat em
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6337|Glendale, CA
If I was left alone with children I'd probably cause them to be mentally disturbed.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6554|North Tonawanda, NY
I agree with Mek and Turq on this.  Some kids need it, as long as it doesn't cross that thin line and become abuse.  I was spanked a few times when I was younger, and I don't fear my parents.  Nor did I ever think I should.

FallenMorgan wrote:

If I was left alone with children I'd probably cause them to be mentally disturbed.
In the words of Marge Simpson: "That sounds like a lie!"
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[-DER-]Omega wrote:

compare the people who were spanked decades ago when it was still allowed to the generation of obnoxious imbeciles that we have today.



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