How they work
My only concern is that they're either on or off, and the forces they induce would be too great, I'm seeing a lot of /facestteringwheels.
How they work
My only concern is that they're either on or off, and the forces they induce would be too great, I'm seeing a lot of /facestteringwheels.
lol handbrake?
Last edited by Aries_37 (2008-05-19 10:21:53)
That is pretty interesting.
Interesting,but it will require one hell of a magnet to stop a 1000kg+ car.
Or am I being ignorant
Or am I being ignorant
Yes you are Look how easy it slowed the little plates down, now imagine four of them, and distribute the 1000kg by four wheels and you only have to stop 250kg, and the plates with be the size of disc brakes, it all adds up, and probably would work.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Interesting,but it will require one hell of a magnet to stop a 1000kg+ car.
Or am I being ignorant
Still,250 kg is a lotFunky_Finny wrote:
Yes you are Look how easy it slowed the little plates down, now imagine four of them, and distribute the 1000kg by four wheels and you only have to stop 250kg, and the plates with be the size of disc brakes, it all adds up, and probably would work.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Interesting,but it will require one hell of a magnet to stop a 1000kg+ car.
Or am I being ignorant
Magnets. Right.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
I need around tree fiddy.
Always there to ruin the funDonFck wrote:
Magnets. Right.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
I lol'd.DonFck wrote:
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
i know, right?DonFck wrote:
Magnets. Right.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
theres nothing wrong with the braking systems that are in vehicles right now.
arent magnets not such a good idea to mix with computers?
cause the last time i checked, there are a lot of computer parts on cars.
Not computers,only hard disk drives I thinkParker wrote:
i know, right?DonFck wrote:
Magnets. Right.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
theres nothing wrong with the braking systems that are in vehicles right now.
arent magnets not such a good idea to mix with computers?
cause the last time i checked, there are a lot of computer parts on cars.
Hmm. Interesting, but magnets won't mix well with the computers and shit (Like Parkie sez'd). Unless they have some sort of shielding. I say interesting, because current brakes need all that brake pad/fluid shit. With this, it's much simpler. Although, on the scale of a car moving at fast speeds. I'm sure you'd need a bigger magnet which wouldn't be practical. Actually you'd still need hydraulics or whatever they use these days to move the magnets, and they wouldn't be as responsive as current brakes.
rite?
rite?
every single sensor on a vehicle is controlled by a computer.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Not computers,only hard disk drives I thinkParker wrote:
i know, right?DonFck wrote:
Magnets. Right.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
theres nothing wrong with the braking systems that are in vehicles right now.
arent magnets not such a good idea to mix with computers?
cause the last time i checked, there are a lot of computer parts on cars.
from your Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor, to your fuel/air sensor...they all come back to the Electronic Control Module.
which not only tells your vehicle how to perform based on certain conditions, but it also stores trouble codes which can tell a mechanic what is wrong with the vehicle.
hell, my grand am even has tire pressure sensors that drive me fucking insane.
did you read what he said? hard drives. only hard drives.Parker wrote:
every single sensor on a vehicle is controlled by a computer.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Not computers,only hard disk drives I thinkParker wrote:
i know, right?
theres nothing wrong with the braking systems that are in vehicles right now.
arent magnets not such a good idea to mix with computers?
cause the last time i checked, there are a lot of computer parts on cars.
from your Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor, to your fuel/air sensor...they all come back to the Electronic Control Module.
which not only tells your vehicle how to perform based on certain conditions, but it also stores trouble codes which can tell a mechanic what is wrong with the vehicle.
hell, my grand am even has tire pressure sensors that drive me fucking insane.
it wont replace our brakes now anyway, nothing wrong with them.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
hard drives are not the only thing that is hampered by magnetic interference.haffeysucks wrote:
did you read what he said? hard drives. only hard drives.Parker wrote:
every single sensor on a vehicle is controlled by a computer.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Not computers,only hard disk drives I think
from your Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor, to your fuel/air sensor...they all come back to the Electronic Control Module.
which not only tells your vehicle how to perform based on certain conditions, but it also stores trouble codes which can tell a mechanic what is wrong with the vehicle.
hell, my grand am even has tire pressure sensors that drive me fucking insane.
i already said that.haffeysucks wrote:
it wont replace our brakes now anyway, nothing wrong with them.
In my physics class me and my friend thought of inventions to make quick money. We thought of a concept similar to this :aswm: then thought... it is impracticable. Has to be either fully on or off. And you wont get the smooth motion of coming to a stop you currently get in your car.
Don't they have magnetic brakes on rollercoasters ?
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
it isn't just 1000kg either. Consider acceleration, and the front wheels have to stop much harder than the rear. It could easily turn into 800kg per wheel given the right circumstances. Although, I've heard of some rocket type cars using magna force breaks...so I dunno.Funky_Finny wrote:
Yes you are Look how easy it slowed the little plates down, now imagine four of them, and distribute the 1000kg by four wheels and you only have to stop 250kg, and the plates with be the size of disc brakes, it all adds up, and probably would work.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Interesting,but it will require one hell of a magnet to stop a 1000kg+ car.
Or am I being ignorant
Yes, but its eddy current braking. So the faster it moves the stronger the braking force. And vice versa. And it is guaranteed to work with no power cuts.Varegg wrote:
Don't they have magnetic brakes on rollercoasters ?
edit: Felt liked adding some more words.
They still use normal brakes I believe when they come to the end but most of the braking is done by eddy current braking.
Last edited by teek22 (2008-05-19 12:26:14)
Number one, you would need a fucking strong magnet to hurt a hard drive. It is shielded, and has quite strong neodymium magnets in it. You're probably not going to hurt that anyway.Parker wrote:
hard drives are not the only thing that is hampered by magnetic interference.haffeysucks wrote:
did you read what he said? hard drives. only hard drives.Parker wrote:
every single sensor on a vehicle is controlled by a computer.
from your Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor, to your fuel/air sensor...they all come back to the Electronic Control Module.
which not only tells your vehicle how to perform based on certain conditions, but it also stores trouble codes which can tell a mechanic what is wrong with the vehicle.
hell, my grand am even has tire pressure sensors that drive me fucking insane.
Second, the computers in a car don't have hard drives, and are far enough away that they wouldn't be disturbed anyway.
Third, magnets won't hurt a computer. Look at all these people with huge ass subwoofers and such in their cars, near their amps and such. No damage at all.
CrazeD wrote:
Number one, you would need a fucking strong magnet to hurt a hard drive. It is shielded, and has quite strong neodymium magnets in it. You're probably not going to hurt that anyway.
Parker wrote:
hard drives are not the only thing that is hampered by magnetic interference.
so are they nonexistent, or are they far enough away? also:CrazeD wrote:
Second, the computers in a car don't have hard drives, and are far enough away that they wouldn't be disturbed anyway.
Parker wrote:
hard drives are not the only thing that is hampered by magnetic interference.
yes they will.CrazeD wrote:
Third, magnets won't hurt a computer. Look at all these people with huge ass subwoofers and such in their cars, near their amps and such. No damage at all.
Last edited by Parker (2008-05-19 12:55:09)
They used these brakes to stop the car that was attempting to break the land speed record, I believe they used that exact size of brakes, they have a hell of a lot of stopping power.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Hmm. Interesting, but magnets won't mix well with the computers and shit (Like Parkie sez'd). Unless they have some sort of shielding. I say interesting, because current brakes need all that brake pad/fluid shit. With this, it's much simpler. Although, on the scale of a car moving at fast speeds. I'm sure you'd need a bigger magnet which wouldn't be practical. Actually you'd still need hydraulics or whatever they use these days to move the magnets, and they wouldn't be as responsive as current brakes.
rite?
Last edited by GorillaKing798 (2008-05-19 12:54:37)
Exactly. Also, those wheels have no torque, they'd probably slow down at that speed without the magnetic brake thing.Parker wrote:
i know, right?DonFck wrote:
Magnets. Right.
I'm really not impressed by this self proclaimed "inventors" fantastic Dremel-powered disc spinner-machine and his magnetic stopping system made of fridgemagnets and tinfoil.
I'm sorry if I offended someones dad.
theres nothing wrong with the braking systems that are in vehicles right now.
arent magnets not such a good idea to mix with computers?
cause the last time i checked, there are a lot of computer parts on cars.
The best thing to do would be to make an electromagnet that can control the stopping power by varying the power and magnetic intensity. I think that is how the speed trains work. The neat thing is there is no applied friction to the disc. There will be other forces that will cause fatigue and deterioration similar to the brake pads.
Yes, consider a car with 60mph of momentum behind itliquix wrote:
it isn't just 1000kg either. Consider acceleration, and the front wheels have to stop much harder than the rear. It could easily turn into 800kg per wheel given the right circumstances. Although, I've heard of some rocket type cars using magna force breaks...so I dunno.Funky_Finny wrote:
Yes you are Look how easy it slowed the little plates down, now imagine four of them, and distribute the 1000kg by four wheels and you only have to stop 250kg, and the plates with be the size of disc brakes, it all adds up, and probably would work.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Interesting,but it will require one hell of a magnet to stop a 1000kg+ car.
Or am I being ignorant
your not only stopping the car, but the forces pushing the car along.
I think it would be difficult to stop a car going 60mph with those breaks, especially if it weighs upwards of 1100kg
edit: now to think of it, the wa that system works, if it does work, it will probably stop the tires before it stops the cars...
i forsee /car-skid.
Last edited by GodFather (2008-05-19 15:49:39)