trex1210
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I am having problems with my truck. I am not new to mechanics and what not but I just cant figure this out. First of all my truck is a 1986 Ford Ranger standard transmission. The problem is that when I am driving sometimes the truck well begin to sputter and sometimes stall. It well do this in any gear just randomly". It feels like its not getting any gas but I am almost 100% sure that this is not the problem. Any one have any ideas?

Last edited by trex1210 (2008-05-21 20:00:22)

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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Dead Cylinder
jamiet757
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Check your spark plugs.

Most likely one or more is clogged with carbon buildup, and is not giving a consistent spark.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-05-21 20:17:22)

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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Unless his truck uses normal fuel and not diesel, he doesnt have spark plugs.
Reciprocity
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Unless his truck uses normal fuel and not diesel, he doesnt have spark plugs.
it's not a diesel.




I've seen ignition modules cause intermittent hesitation and sometimes stalling.  you may want to look into that.  Bad spark plug(s) generally cause a more consistent missfire.
thtthht
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I think something is clogged, or there is too much gunk where the fuel is.
Fuel before the red gas light turns on, or you'll have too much carbon buildup
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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I still say not all of his cylinders are working. When he gets to the amount of revs required to keep the engine running and switch gears, his engine doesnt give the power it needs.
Reciprocity
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

I still say not all of his cylinders are working. When he gets to the amount of revs required to keep the engine running and switch gears, his engine doesnt give the power it needs.
He's describing an intermittent problem.  Dead cylinders are not intermittent.
Ryan
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Could be spark plugs, or cylinders. The cylinders could be seizing up maybe.
Are you doing regular oil changes?
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Reciprocity wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

I still say not all of his cylinders are working. When he gets to the amount of revs required to keep the engine running and switch gears, his engine doesnt give the power it needs.
He's describing an intermittent problem.  Dead cylinders are not intermittent.
He says he sometimes sputters and sometimes he stalls. When you just went 1 gear up, you need to keep the revs going up. If the engine is tuned in such a way that it requires all 4/6/8 cylinders to work, it will cease it to do because the engine can not give the right amount of power.

Spark plugs are in my mind only used with starting your car.
jamiet757
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Um, no....Spark plugs are the reason cars work, unless it is a diesel, which a Ford ranger is not.

The spark plug is what ignites the gas in the cylinder to produce the power. It is not a dead cylinder because as stated, it is an intermittent problem.
Most likely it is the spark plugs, because it is either that, the ignition module (as stated before) or a fuel problem, which the OP stated he is almost 100% sure it is not.

You must be thinking of glow plugs in a diesel, then yes, they are used to start the engine, then the compression causes the fuel mixture to ignite. But spark plugs and glow plugs are very different things.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-05-21 20:39:34)

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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jamiet757 wrote:

Um, no....Spark plugs are the reason cars work, unless it is a diesel, which a Ford ranger is not.
Spark plugs dont give sparks the whole time the engine is running. Either we are talking about the ignition spark plugs{which I ment} or the spark plugs at the mouth of the cylinder which in that case could be an issue aswell.

Last edited by _NL_Lt.EngineerFox (2008-05-21 20:40:41)

jamiet757
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

Um, no....Spark plugs are the reason cars work, unless it is a diesel, which a Ford ranger is not.
Spark plugs dont give sparks the whole time the engine is running.
Yes they do.

Glow plugs do not "glow" the entire time the engine is running, just to start it.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-05-21 20:40:09)

Ryan
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jamiet757 wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

Um, no....Spark plugs are the reason cars work, unless it is a diesel, which a Ford ranger is not.
Spark plugs dont give sparks the whole time the engine is running.
Yes they do.

Glow plugs do not "glow" the entire time the engine is running, just to start it.
The spark constantly has to be produced or else you would get on pump of the piston and then nothing would happen.
With glow plugs on the other hand, yea, one time and then the engine runs by itself. The diesel compresses and ignites itself.

Could it be that his cylinders and pistons are seizing a bit?
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Ryan wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:


Spark plugs dont give sparks the whole time the engine is running.
Yes they do.

Glow plugs do not "glow" the entire time the engine is running, just to start it.
The spark constantly has to be produced or else you would get on pump of the piston and then nothing would happen.
With glow plugs on the other hand, yea, one time and then the engine runs by itself. The diesel compresses and ignites itself.

Could it be that his cylinders and pistons are seizing a bit?
See my last edited post.
jamiet757
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I don't think they can "seize a bit", I think with seizing, it is either fine, or fucked.

What I mean is, if his engine seized, it would happen suddenly, and he would definitely know it. A cylinder seizes because there is not enough lubrication between the cylinder wall and the piston. The lack of lubrication causes a tremendous amount of heat to build up until the piston and cylinder literally melt together.

The engine would stop suddenly with a huge plume of white-blueish smoke as the remaining oil is instantly burned off, and the engine would become useless.

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

Um, no....Spark plugs are the reason cars work, unless it is a diesel, which a Ford ranger is not.
Spark plugs dont give sparks the whole time the engine is running. Either we are talking about the ignition spark plugs{which I ment} or the spark plugs at the mouth of the cylinder which in that case could be an issue aswell.
There is only 1 kind of spark plug, the plug that sits in the top of the cylinder that ignites the fuel.

see here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine1.htm

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-05-21 20:50:20)

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jamiet757 wrote:

The lack of lubrication causes a tremendous amount of heat to build up until the piston and cylinder literally melt together.
That would only occur if you started a cold engine and keep pushing the gas pedal in neutral to warm up the engine.
brickZ28
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The problem is already circled...

https://www.twomilereview.com/Ford%20Emblem.jpg

Buy a Chevy
jamiet757
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

The lack of lubrication causes a tremendous amount of heat to build up until the piston and cylinder literally melt together.
That would only occur if you started a cold engine and keep pushing the gas pedal in neutral to warm up the engine.
No that occurs if you do not change your oil regularly, it has nothing to do with a cold start and pushing the gas pedal.

Pushing the gas in neutral only revs the engine, just like you do when you drive, only there is no load on it, so it is actually easier on the engine than driving would be, unless you are redlining it that is.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-05-21 20:52:03)

Reciprocity
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Spark plugs are in my mind only used with starting your car.
that is remarkably wrong.
jamiet757
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Reciprocity wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Spark plugs are in my mind only used with starting your car.
that is remarkably wrong.
It is so wrong that I find it absolutely hilarious that he insists that it is right.
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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jamiet757 wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

The lack of lubrication causes a tremendous amount of heat to build up until the piston and cylinder literally melt together.
That would only occur if you started a cold engine and keep pushing the gas pedal in neutral to warm up the engine.
No that occurs if you do not change your oil regularly, it has nothing to do with a cold start and pushing the gas pedal.

Pushing the gas in neutral only revs the engine, just like you do when you drive, only there is no load on it, so it is actually easier on the engine than driving would be, unless you are redlining it that is.
Giving gas in neutral is actually more worse on an engine than giving it gas when in motion. On long term you shorten the life out of the engine because your cylinders/camshaft have had much worthless rotation.
jamiet757
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No it doesn't, it is not worthless rotation, the wear and tear comes from the load that is put on the car from driving. How long have you been driving? You seem to have very skewed perceptions of how engines work.
Reciprocity
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Giving gas in neutral is actually more worse on an engine than giving it gas when in motion. On long term you shorten the life out of the engine because your cylinders/camshaft have had much worthless rotation.
please stop posting in this thread.
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I've been a lorry mechanic for 4 years and driving for one year legally in a car and lorry.

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