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ya hallo thar!

So my trusty 19" 4:3 medion TFT (supermarket monitor) crapped out on me yesterday, so I'm in need of an new one. I want an widescreen as my new monitor, but there are different sizes (19" , 20", 22" etc) and I don't know what the size of those monitors are compared to the good old fasion 4:3 monitors. I remembered that max (and some other people) have posted an image here several times that compares all the sizes (don't know how to explain exactly). So my question is: could someone post that image again? See the pic for explanation of what I mean.

Hope you guys get what I mean:

https://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/stefanvdd/monitorsize.jpg

Paint ftw! karma for help
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone
Initially this was posted by Dauntless

Here you go

https://shrani.si/f/2f/Oo/37381kCz/sizesry4.png
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
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.Sup wrote:

Initially this was posted by Dauntless

Here you go

http://shrani.si/f/2f/Oo/37381kCz/sizesry4.png
+1

edit: You may not karma the same person in a 24 hour period.  You own me one sup .

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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

']['error wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Initially this was posted by Dauntless

Here you go

http://shrani.si/f/2f/Oo/37381kCz/sizesry4.png
+1

edit: You may not karma the same person in a 24 hour period.  You own me one sup .
I own you one? Who gave you your last karma?
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands

.Sup wrote:

']['error wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Initially this was posted by Dauntless

Here you go

http://shrani.si/f/2f/Oo/37381kCz/sizesry4.png
+1

edit: You may not karma the same person in a 24 hour period.  I own me one sup .
I own you one? Who gave you your last karma?
/fail at spelling

how does THIS monitor look? 2500:1 contrast, low response time etc. And since my dad also want to order something from that site I don't have to pay shipping .
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands
Going to get an fujitsu siemens L22W-11 in a moment. 1000:1 contrast etc, everything looks good, and only 170 euro . brb, going to pick up monitor from local PC-shop.

EDIT: lol sale starts on saturday, so saturday I'll have my new monitor.

Last edited by ']['error (2008-05-22 07:40:39)

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

You're not gonna get much screen for 170€. Just going for an Acer/Fujitsu monitor isn't gonna give you much monitor.

But if it's all you can afford, go for it.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands

Freezer7Pro wrote:

You're not gonna get much screen for 170€. Just going for an Acer/Fujitsu monitor isn't gonna give you much monitor.

But if it's all you can afford, go for it.
I'm just not willing to spend 230 euro on an "zomg samsung l33tbrand" monitor if an fujitsu or acer will do just fine. It's the same as with the EVGA fanboys around here: stuffing PC's full of EVGA parts when someone asks for advice, sure EVGA is an great brand, but it's like their parts are made by god himself.

As for the monitor: yes it's an cheap one, and the collors might be not as good as the samsung one, but I don't care. I've had this supermarket monitor for 3 years now and it was fine: collors were ok, response time 8ms, contrast 700:1. And I couldn't see the diffrence in collor etc. with other monitors. And btw, the monitor I"m getting next saturday has 5ms/ 1000:1 so that's even better than I had . And it's like 100 times better then the 14" crt from 1993 I'm on now .

edit: And for an grand in €180 (€10 extra) in total I have the zero-deadpixel-policy, so I'm assured of a monitor with no dead pixels). + no shipping costs because it's from the local PC store.

I don't mind if you guys recommend me an diffrent monitor, as long as the total costs stay < €200. (shipping and dead-pixel-policy included if possible).

Last edited by ']['error (2008-05-22 08:27:19)

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

You're not gonna get much screen for 170€. Just going for an Acer/Fujitsu monitor isn't gonna give you much monitor.

But if it's all you can afford, go for it.
I'm just not willing to spend 230 euro on an "zomg samsung l33tbrand" monitor if an fujitsu or acer will do just fine. It's the same as with the EVGA fanboys around here: stuffing PC's full of EVGA parts when someone asks for advice, sure EVGA is an great brand, but it's like their parts are made by god himself.

As for the monitor: yes it's an cheap one, and the collors might be not as good as the samsung one, but I don't care. I've had this supermarket monitor for 3 years now and it was fine: collors were ok, response time 8ms, contrast 700:1. And I couldn't see the diffrence in collor etc. with other monitors. And btw, the monitor I"m getting next saturday has 5ms/ 1000:1 so that's even better than I had . And it's like 100 times better then the 14" crt from 1993 I'm on now .
Well, as I said, it'll do if it's all you wanna spend. I'm on a small-brand 150€ monitor from 2004, myself, so don't call me a fanboy . Just giving some advice.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands

Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

You're not gonna get much screen for 170€. Just going for an Acer/Fujitsu monitor isn't gonna give you much monitor.

But if it's all you can afford, go for it.
I'm just not willing to spend 230 euro on an "zomg samsung l33tbrand" monitor if an fujitsu or acer will do just fine. It's the same as with the EVGA fanboys around here: stuffing PC's full of EVGA parts when someone asks for advice, sure EVGA is an great brand, but it's like their parts are made by god himself.

As for the monitor: yes it's an cheap one, and the collors might be not as good as the samsung one, but I don't care. I've had this supermarket monitor for 3 years now and it was fine: collors were ok, response time 8ms, contrast 700:1. And I couldn't see the diffrence in collor etc. with other monitors. And btw, the monitor I"m getting next saturday has 5ms/ 1000:1 so that's even better than I had . And it's like 100 times better then the 14" crt from 1993 I'm on now .
Well, as I said, it'll do if it's all you wanna spend. I'm on a small-brand 150€ monitor from 2004, myself, so don't call me a fanboy . Just giving some advice.
re-read post pl0x. And I'm not calling you an fanboy, I wouldn't even dare . I'd only give you "HOMOOOOOO" karma if you want since everybody else is doing it .
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current specs:

8800GT
E6600 @ 2.8 ghz
4gb pc6400 memory @ 930 mhz

12" CRT monitor from 1993

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:


I'm just not willing to spend 230 euro on an "zomg samsung l33tbrand" monitor if an fujitsu or acer will do just fine. It's the same as with the EVGA fanboys around here: stuffing PC's full of EVGA parts when someone asks for advice, sure EVGA is an great brand, but it's like their parts are made by god himself.

As for the monitor: yes it's an cheap one, and the collors might be not as good as the samsung one, but I don't care. I've had this supermarket monitor for 3 years now and it was fine: collors were ok, response time 8ms, contrast 700:1. And I couldn't see the diffrence in collor etc. with other monitors. And btw, the monitor I"m getting next saturday has 5ms/ 1000:1 so that's even better than I had . And it's like 100 times better then the 14" crt from 1993 I'm on now .
Well, as I said, it'll do if it's all you wanna spend. I'm on a small-brand 150€ monitor from 2004, myself, so don't call me a fanboy . Just giving some advice.
re-read post pl0x. And I'm not calling you an fanboy, I wouldn't even dare . I'd only give you "HOMOOOOOO" karma if you want since everybody else is doing it .
Don't think I don't know it was you who started it.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
']['error
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Well, as I said, it'll do if it's all you wanna spend. I'm on a small-brand 150€ monitor from 2004, myself, so don't call me a fanboy . Just giving some advice.
re-read post pl0x. And I'm not calling you an fanboy, I wouldn't even dare . I'd only give you "HOMOOOOOO" karma if you want since everybody else is doing it .
Don't think I don't know it was you who started it.


how did you found out? asked the mods? . It's not like an personal attack, me and my friends do it all the time in RL. And I can't help that everybody started to copy/paste my shit
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:


re-read post pl0x. And I'm not calling you an fanboy, I wouldn't even dare . I'd only give you "HOMOOOOOO" karma if you want since everybody else is doing it .
Don't think I don't know it was you who started it.


how did you found out? asked the mods? . It's not like an personal attack, me and my friends do it all the time in RL. And I can't help that everybody started to copy/paste my shit
I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
kylef
Gone
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Glad to see you upgrading from that, lol And I thought my 17" + 15" LCD was bad!
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands

Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Don't think I don't know it was you who started it.


how did you found out? asked the mods? . It's not like an personal attack, me and my friends do it all the time in RL. And I can't help that everybody started to copy/paste my shit
I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
Hax my ass , you just PM'd an mod .

Meh, I'm dutch and I'm not studying english 24/7. I'm getting an eight (out of 10) as mark for english this year, good enough for me. And as long as you guys can understand me (which I believe everyone does, because I'm not talking like supah) I don't mind my wrong  "an" and "a" usage. I think you're a grammarnazi sometimes(like now for example), if I were english I wouldn't blame you for correcting me, but what you are doing is what we call "mierenneuken" (ant fucking literally translated) in the netherlands.

Think about that, mk?

Last edited by ']['error (2008-05-22 13:22:40)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6763|N. Ireland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
Sorry, but while we're on the subject: probably, not propably.
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands

kylef wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
Sorry, but while we're on the subject: probably, not propably.


edit: where did he wrote that? I call hax tbh.

Last edited by ']['error (2008-05-22 13:27:23)

kylef
Gone
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']['error wrote:

kylef wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
Sorry, but while we're on the subject: probably, not propably.


edit: where did he wrote that? I call hax tbh.
http://forums.bf2s.com/search.php?search_id=2068552408
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

']['error wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

']['error wrote:




how did you found out? asked the mods? . It's not like an personal attack, me and my friends do it all the time in RL. And I can't help that everybody started to copy/paste my shit
I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
Hax my ass , you just PM'd an mod .

Meh, I'm dutch and I'm not studying english 24/7. I'm getting an eight (out of 10) as mark for english this year, good enough for me. And as long as you guys can understand me (which I believe everyone does, because I'm not talking like supah) I don't mind my wrong  "an" and "a" usage. I think you're a grammarnazi sometimes(like now for example), if I were english I wouldn't blame you for correcting me, but what you are doing is what we call "mierenneuken" (ant fucking literally translated) in the netherlands.

Think about that, mk?
actually, if you look away from a/an your english is very good for a Dutchie

But just for the sake of it, the rule is VERY simple.

If the word starts with a vowel (a, e, i, o, u) sound, it's always "an".
If the word doesn't start with a vowel sound, it's always "a".



very simple, and can up your grade to a 9


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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

kylef wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I've got plenty'o good'ol hax.

And the only personal attack I see is your overusage of the word "an". An egg, a train. A goose, an explosion. A hobo, an idiot. An alarm, an identity, an attack. A bomb, a drain, a door. In most cases, words that start with a vocal get "an", and words that start with a consonant get "a".

Think about that, mk?
Sorry, but while we're on the subject: probably, not propably.
Read up on my latest posts. I stopped doing that a couple of weeks ago.

On the english stuff, I usually only grammarnazi those who don't even try on the forums (u, c, y, etc), as that's just gay. There's no hurry in here. I know my grammar isn't perfect, but I'm doing my best, and I know you're too, but basics as an/a just makes me rip my hair out, you know.

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The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

']['error wrote:

I don't mind my wrong  "an" and "a" usage.
You never use "a"
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
Dauntless
Admin
+2,249|7012|London

Yeah that allways made me lol with your "an"age, and I know you can speak it pretty well and it doesn't have to be perfect but you might as well just learn that one thing, because other than that your English is perfect. (only use an if the next word starts with a vowel.)

...Back on subject, I got this monitor for £110 ~ €140 and I think it looks great, although it's advertised as 3000:1 contrast ratio, it says on the screen that it's 5000:1.
https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
']['error
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+630|6914|The Netherlands

Dauntless wrote:

Yeah that allways made me lol with your "an"age, and I know you can speak it pretty well and it doesn't have to be perfect but you might as well just learn that one thing, because other than that your English is perfect. (only use an if the next word starts with a vowel.)

...Back on subject, I got this monitor for £110 ~ €140 and I think it looks great, although it's advertised as 3000:1 contrast ratio, it says on the screen that it's 5000:1.
20" is too small. The acer (see my post somewhere above) has a contrast of 2500:1. How much am I going to see the difference compared to my old monitor which had 700:1? (monitor I'm going to buy now has 1000:1)
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

']['error wrote:

Dauntless wrote:

Yeah that allways made me lol with your "an"age, and I know you can speak it pretty well and it doesn't have to be perfect but you might as well just learn that one thing, because other than that your English is perfect. (only use an if the next word starts with a vowel.)

...Back on subject, I got this monitor for £110 ~ €140 and I think it looks great, although it's advertised as 3000:1 contrast ratio, it says on the screen that it's 5000:1.
20" is too small. The acer (see my post somewhere above) has a contrast of 2500:1. How much am I going to see the difference compared to my old monitor which had 700:1? (monitor I'm going to buy now has 1000:1)
Depends on the qulity of the monitor. If you get a cheap Acer or the like, don't expect much. They tend to have deally dull blacks and pretty weak colours. An LG or Samsung will get you better quality, and better performance. Even if the brand-named one looks worse on paper, it's most certainly better. Those 2-5ms Acer/Fujitsu monitors can go up to the low 20's in response time if the whole screen is changing, like in a game or in a movie.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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