If Obama is assassinated in June.. in California we have got a real problem in this country.
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I don't even like him, but the country would be flung into mass hysteria. I'm not even sure the elections could go well, if at all.Kmarion wrote:
If Obama is assassinated in June.. in California we have got a real problem in this country.
...and if anything negative is said about Obama, then it must obviously be racism.FEOS wrote:
I'm no fan of Hillary, but I think this is blown completely out of proportion. She was referring to well-known Democrat primary campaigns that were still in question in June. I think the more telling aspect is how Obama's campaign jumps on whatever either Clinton or McCain say and try to make it a negative, regardless of the obvious intent.
The general is going to be a mud-slinging festival, with the first mud slung by Obama.
And that's a damn shame.
Pasted from Fox News? Not everything they say is true.The general is going to be a mud-slinging festival, with the first mud slung by Obama.
I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Clinton's?..lolDrakef wrote:
Perhaps Clinton was merely referring to examples of situations where nomination races did not end as early as May. I don't see it as a big deal.
Where do you get this shit? Seriously. You have no idea which news outlets I watch or read regularly, or else you would realize how moronic your statement was. You assume, because I'm not a flaming socialist liberal, that I blindly watch Fox News and nothing else.Dilbert_X wrote:
Pasted from Fox News? Not everything they say is true.The general is going to be a mud-slinging festival, with the first mud slung by Obama.
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What, he's done it once? Big deal.I was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?
No, he's done it repeatedly. And the media stokes the fire to keep it going.Dilbert_X wrote:
What, he's done it once? Big deal.I was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?
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Bush's comments at the Knesset. While ill-advised, they were not directed at Obama but his campaign acted as if they were and the media ran with it.Dilbert_X wrote:
For example?
Its not as if its a new tactic never used by anyone else in this campaign or any other.
Hwo do you know they weren't directed at Obama?FEOS wrote:
Bush's comments at the Knesset. While ill-advised, they were not directed at Obama but his campaign acted as if they were and the media ran with it.
What Clinton did was show to the U.S., and the rest of the world, exactly why she's still in the race. She is waiting for any event to happen, which would automatically put her in favor of the nomination, or better yet, automatically put her as the nominee. Many people say that each word that comes out of Clinton's mouth is either calculated and planned. I happen to believe its true. She always intends what she says, and after she learns how the media reacts to it, she'll either apologize if it was taken offensively, or go on the air the next day and explain yet again why she's fighting until the end with more encouragement and confidence than ever. It's sickening.Drakef wrote:
Perhaps Clinton was merely referring to examples of situations where nomination races did not end as early as May. I don't see it as a big deal.
Because Obama isn't the only one who's said those things. He isn't the only American, nor are Americans the only world citizens who have said those things.ZombieVampire! wrote:
Hwo do you know they weren't directed at Obama?FEOS wrote:
Bush's comments at the Knesset. While ill-advised, they were not directed at Obama but his campaign acted as if they were and the media ran with it.
For what it's worth, I would agree that Obama probably shouldn't have acted as if Bush was comparing Chamberlain to him.FEOS wrote:
Because Obama isn't the only one who's said those things. He isn't the only American, nor are Americans the only world citizens who have said those things.ZombieVampire! wrote:
Hwo do you know they weren't directed at Obama?FEOS wrote:
Bush's comments at the Knesset. While ill-advised, they were not directed at Obama but his campaign acted as if they were and the media ran with it.
That's how.
And how many of the others are prominent politicians currently engaged in election campaigns for an opposition party?FEOS wrote:
Because Obama isn't the only one who's said those things. He isn't the only American, nor are Americans the only world citizens who have said those things.ZombieVampire! wrote:
Hwo do you know they weren't directed at Obama?FEOS wrote:
Bush's comments at the Knesset. While ill-advised, they were not directed at Obama but his campaign acted as if they were and the media ran with it.
That's how.
Your spilling the same pathetic crap every conservative talk show host says about him. The irony is they attack him daily while at the same time saying he is "untouchable" in the media. How feeble minded does a person have to be to not see what is sitting right in front of them? Maybe he should start to cry for his sympathy.FEOS wrote:
I was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?
It's simply pathetic.
If thats true how does that translate toI was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?
Are you saying the McCain campaign will be conducted by turtle doves delivering branches of cherry blossom?The general is going to be a mud-slinging festival, with the first mud slung by Obama.
I'm sure saving the lives of people was the last thing on his mind..nukchebi0 wrote:
Why didn't Hitler surrender in January 1945, and save the lives of many of his people?
Calm down there, KM. Are you going to stoop to the level of others here and assume you know how I'm going to vote?Kmarion wrote:
Your spilling the same pathetic crap every conservative talk show host says about him. The irony is they attack him daily while at the same time saying he is "untouchable" in the media. How feeble minded does a person have to be to not see what is sitting right in front of them? Maybe he should start to cry for his sympathy.FEOS wrote:
I was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?
It's simply pathetic.
It's the start of a trend that I hope he nips in the bud, that's how it relates.Dilbert_X wrote:
If thats true how does that translate toI was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?Are you saying the McCain campaign will be conducted by turtle doves delivering branches of cherry blossom?The general is going to be a mud-slinging festival, with the first mud slung by Obama.
Why would Obama necessarily sling the first mud either?
Given the conduct of the Republicans in the last election, the swiftboat crap etc. coming from the Bush/Cheney draft dodging ticket, I guess we can expect more of the same.
I never said a word about your vote, nor am I "not calm"..lol. I hear Glenn Beck, Sean Hanity, Rush, and others everyday take swipes at him. They mock him in terms of hope and change. They attack his inexperience and the people around him. He has addresed most of these issues head on. It's not just all victim politics. The attacks on McCain were there up until he was the presumptive nominee (by the right). Everything is spun by the opposite side of the aisle. This is nothing new. It's politics 101.FEOS wrote:
Calm down there, KM. Are you going to stoop to the level of others here and assume you know how I'm going to vote?Kmarion wrote:
Your spilling the same pathetic crap every conservative talk show host says about him. The irony is they attack him daily while at the same time saying he is "untouchable" in the media. How feeble minded does a person have to be to not see what is sitting right in front of them? Maybe he should start to cry for his sympathy.FEOS wrote:
I was referring to the recent tactic by the Obama campaign to take everything one of the other candidates says negatively and then decry the non-existent attack to get sympathy. He's doing it now and getting a pass...why wouldn't anyone think he'll be doing it in the general?
It's simply pathetic.
How is Obama attacked daily (by other than conservative talk radio)? If you're talking about conservative talk radio, all the hosts I've heard since this started have attacked McCain as much as they attack Clinton or Obama. And please show how non-conservative media (ie, other than talk radio and Fox News) attack Obama? Even when they do a story with negative aspects (for him), it gets spun in such a way that he gets a pass.
Perhaps it's not Obama personally...he does seem to distance himself from it. But he doesn't admonish his campaign staff for making press releases either implying or outright stating that he is personally being attacked by someone's statements that had nothing to do with him.