DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7108|United States of America
"Unmarked chopper patrols New York City from above"

Police say the chopper's sweeps of landmarks and other potential targets are invaluable in helping guard against another terrorist attack, providing a see-but-avoid-being-seen advantage against bad guys.
The $10 million helicopter is just part of the department's efforts to adopt cutting-edge technology for its counterterrorism operations.
The NYPD also plans to spend tens of millions of dollars strengthening security in the lower Manhattan business district with a network of closed-circuit television cameras and license-plate readers posted at bridges, tunnels and other entry points.
Police have also deployed hundreds of radiation monitors — some worn on belts like pagers, others mounted on cars and in helicopters — to detect dirty bombs.
Kelly even envisions someday using futuristic "stationary airborne devices" similar to blimps to conduct reconnaissance and guard against chemical, biological and radiological threats.
To me this just reflects that terrorism is still having an effect on those in power, and paranoia isn't the way to combat it. If this action starts a trend across the nation, God help us. As it even says in the article, the people were spooked during Benedict's visit by a guy with a camera on a building. I understand the need for vigilance in order to avoid another attack (although I find another extremely unlikely at this point in time) but we've passed that marker and may be headed towards 24-hour surveillance of public areas. You'll have to pick your nose in the comfort of your own home! The fancy helicopter is also an invaluable tool for fighting crime that you know is occurring in the streets; take advantage of it for a better purpose.
BVC
Member
+325|7118
Wow, what a...new development.  Unmarked hueys, I wonder whats going on,,, *sarcasm overload*

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I receieved a letter about a week ago, saying the local police were going to be conducting exercises in the old womens hospital, which is on my block.

I live ~20 metres from said old womens hospital, and hum "ride of the valkyries" to myself every time the brave men and women of the RNZAF fly overhead.  I've heard flashbangs and door charges going off all week, my only wish is that I wish I could be there to see this shit firsthand.  In 5 hours I will have to settle for a PB game (RAP4)...

Shit, I've had PB/RAP4 games in that same complex, it fucken rules!!!!

But yeah, digression aside, the spectre of terrorism leaves nobody untouched, even those of us who live in the middle of nowhere.  And thats no joke.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250
The threat cause by terrorism is ridiculously negligible.  And it would be even less if we stopped panicking about it.
d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
+72|6876|Ontario, Canada
I don't get the point of putting helicopters to watch over the streets of New York. How does that prevent terrorism? That's just police state.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7139
Thank you NYPD for keeping us safe...
Love is the answer
d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
+72|6876|Ontario, Canada

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Thank you NYPD for keeping us safe...
Safe??? Catbox, your once of those fags who believe "Governments keep us safe". Open your damn eyes and see what is really happening.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
Vax
Member
+42|6275|Flyover country

d4rkst4r wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Thank you NYPD for keeping us safe...
Safe??? Catbox, your once of those fags who believe "Governments keep us safe". Open your damn eyes and see what is really happening.
Uh, take away the police force  and let's see how safe you are.

ZombieVampire! wrote:

The threat cause by terrorism is ridiculously negligible.  And it would be even less if we stopped panicking about it.
You don't live in New York City do you.   
Something tells me folks there might have a different opinion.

Last edited by Vax (2008-05-24 11:16:19)

BVC
Member
+325|7118
Unmarked choppers.  Maybe...training?
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6834|'Murka

I'm still trying to see the problem with NYPD operating helicopters over NYC...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6646|Escea

FEOS wrote:

I'm still trying to see the problem with NYPD operating helicopters over NYC...
Guess that cop chopper over my house last night was destroying my freedom
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina
Moves like these make a lot more sense than invading foreign countries.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7044|London, England
I've heard that NYC is extremley paranoid and afraid of terrorism. Like, it's at your face almost everywhere especially the big tourist landmarks. Instead of being scared like most people in NYC seem to be, we're the opposite.

https://www.metamend.com/images/blog-images/we-are-not-afraid.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/special … ndex.shtml


Terrorism seems to have seriously affected the American mindset, they've practically won in the USA. Just look at the chaos since 9/11. Then look at other countries that experience it everyday and you'll realise that alot of you are pretty fucking big pussies.
topthrill05
Member
+125|7001|Rochester NY USA
I doubt anyone really knows how safe we are.

So it's odd when people can just say "Hey theres no threat" from their comfy chair.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina
Mek, while I agree with you in certain ways, I would say the U.K. and much of the rest of Europe appeases Muslims too much.

In short, America is too paranoid and we invade countries with too little provocation (and sometimes none), but Europe bends over too much for the sake of PC.
Vax
Member
+42|6275|Flyover country
It 's true that Americans were leading a pretty sheltered existence before that major event, the only things that even came close were the 93 WTC bomb, and the 95 Oklahoma City bomb.

The paranoia is a lot less in most of the US, (with the exception being airports or federal buildings:) NYC is different though.

Last edited by Vax (2008-05-24 12:32:35)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina
I'd also like to add that London has a ton of cameras everywhere.  That's pretty paranoid in its own right.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6834|'Murka

Where do you draw the line between paranoia and vigilance?

I guess if you didn't have 3000 odd of your fellow citizens killed in a matter of hours, you'd call it paranoia.

If you did and you're determined not to let that happen again, I guess you'd call it vigilance.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-05-24 12:51:33)

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Pierre
I hunt criminals down for a living
+68|7098|Belgium

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I've heard that NYC is extremley paranoid and afraid of terrorism. Like, it's at your face almost everywhere especially the big tourist landmarks. Instead of being scared like most people in NYC seem to be, we're the opposite.

http://www.metamend.com/images/blog-ima … afraid.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/special … ndex.shtml


Terrorism seems to have seriously affected the American mindset, they've practically won in the USA. Just look at the chaos since 9/11. Then look at other countries that experience it everyday and you'll realise that alot of you are pretty fucking big pussies.
Well, it sure helps when you have a national news network repeating everyday the country is in danger and at war, for almost seven years now...
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250

Vax wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

The threat cause by terrorism is ridiculously negligible.  And it would be even less if we stopped panicking about it.
You don't live in New York City do you.   
Something tells me folks there might have a different opinion.
Perhaps, but the facts are on my side.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7051|IRELAND

Pissssh. I used to wake up in my attic bedroom in Belfast with a chopper hovering 10m off my roof shining a light in the skylight. They used to hover over every ones roofs at least once a week, in the area I lived. Either that or they would park an armoured car across your front door and hold you prisoner in your house for a day. It was intimidation as their were a large amount of 'terrorists' living in the area. All it served to do was piss people off and make them hate the police even more. Didn't stop the terrorists, neither will this.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6529|eXtreme to the maX
The $10 million helicopter is just part of the department's efforts to adopt cutting-edge technology for its counterterrorism operations.
The NYPD also plans to spend tens of millions of dollars strengthening security in the lower Manhattan business district with a network of closed-circuit television cameras and license-plate readers posted at bridges, tunnels and other entry points.
Police have also deployed hundreds of radiation monitors — some worn on belts like pagers, others mounted on cars and in helicopters — to detect dirty bombs.
Kelly even envisions someday using futuristic "stationary airborne devices" similar to blimps to conduct reconnaissance and guard against chemical, biological and radiological threats.
Not sure how any of this will stop:-
A 737.
A previously unknown suicide bomber.
A dirty bomb wrapped in lead.
A truck full of C4.
But I suppose they feel like they're doing something.
Fuck Israel
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|6239|Fattest Country in the world.

Dilbert_X wrote:

The $10 million helicopter is just part of the department's efforts to adopt cutting-edge technology for its counterterrorism operations.
The NYPD also plans to spend tens of millions of dollars strengthening security in the lower Manhattan business district with a network of closed-circuit television cameras and license-plate readers posted at bridges, tunnels and other entry points.
Police have also deployed hundreds of radiation monitors — some worn on belts like pagers, others mounted on cars and in helicopters — to detect dirty bombs.
Kelly even envisions someday using futuristic "stationary airborne devices" similar to blimps to conduct reconnaissance and guard against chemical, biological and radiological threats.
Not sure how any of this will stop:-
A 737.
A previously unknown suicide bomber.
A dirty bomb wrapped in lead.
A truck full of C4.
But I suppose they feel like they're doing something.
True. But something is better then nothing.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250
How do you figure?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7044|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

I'd also like to add that London has a ton of cameras everywhere.  That's pretty paranoid in its own right.
That has more to do with crime than terrorism.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'd also like to add that London has a ton of cameras everywhere.  That's pretty paranoid in its own right.
That has more to do with crime than terrorism.
It can still be seen as paranoia, just the same as any anti-terror measure.

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