Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|6239|Fattest Country in the world.

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'd also like to add that London has a ton of cameras everywhere.  That's pretty paranoid in its own right.
That has more to do with crime than terrorism.
You will find most Heavily populated areas around the world will have cameras everywhere. This isn't a post 911 introduction, this system has existed for a long time, as mek stated, for crime purposes amoungst other things.

Last edited by Zombie_Affair (2008-05-26 10:00:48)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'd also like to add that London has a ton of cameras everywhere.  That's pretty paranoid in its own right.
That has more to do with crime than terrorism.
You will find most Heavily populated areas around the world will have cameras everywhere. This isn't a post 911 introduction, this system has existed for a long time, as mek stated, for crime purposes amoungst other things.
So I guess privacy takes a backseat.
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|6239|Fattest Country in the world.

Turquoise wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:


That has more to do with crime than terrorism.
You will find most Heavily populated areas around the world will have cameras everywhere. This isn't a post 911 introduction, this system has existed for a long time, as mek stated, for crime purposes amoungst other things.
So I guess privacy takes a backseat.
In some cases, sure. Australia is doing okay though, we have pretty decent privacy laws, but we have cameras in all major heavily populated areas like the rest. Public Safety is pretty important and the cameras do their job. That's not to say the public hasn't disputed the idea since it's installment though.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:


You will find most Heavily populated areas around the world will have cameras everywhere. This isn't a post 911 introduction, this system has existed for a long time, as mek stated, for crime purposes amoungst other things.
So I guess privacy takes a backseat.
In some cases, sure. Australia is doing okay though, we have pretty decent privacy laws, but we have cameras in all major heavily populated areas like the rest. Public Safety is pretty important and the cameras do their job. That's not to say the public hasn't disputed the idea since it's installment though.
Admittedly, I would think Australia has a lot less crime to worry about than the U.S. or the U.K.
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|6239|Fattest Country in the world.

Turquoise wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

So I guess privacy takes a backseat.
In some cases, sure. Australia is doing okay though, we have pretty decent privacy laws, but we have cameras in all major heavily populated areas like the rest. Public Safety is pretty important and the cameras do their job. That's not to say the public hasn't disputed the idea since it's installment though.
Admittedly, I would think Australia has a lot less crime to worry about than the U.S. or the U.K.
Thankfully I can agree, but like the States and U.K, we are just as concerned for the public, whether it be Terrorism, Crime or what have you and in these circumstances, sometimes privacy needs a backseat. It would probably be fair to say 911 and the War on terrorism has played it's part too over the recent years.

Last edited by Zombie_Affair (2008-05-26 22:56:35)

Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7139

d4rkst4r wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Thank you NYPD for keeping us safe...
Safe??? Catbox, your once of those fags who believe "Governments keep us safe". Open your damn eyes and see what is really happening.
ok paranoid guy... back under your rock, troll... it's safe under there... lol
Love is the answer
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6973|CH/BR - in UK

Turquoise wrote:

Mek, while I agree with you in certain ways, I would say the U.K. and much of the rest of Europe appeases Muslims too much.

In short, America is too paranoid and we invade countries with too little provocation (and sometimes none), but Europe bends over too much for the sake of PC.
Yep. I hate PC. No matter in what context. PC just makes you use 5 words where you could have used one, let criminals walk the streets for the sake of maintaining a quota, and lets people who aren't willing to work hard take the place of more deserving people in work and education.

-konfusion
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

You will find most Heavily populated areas around the world will have cameras everywhere. This isn't a post 911 introduction, this system has existed for a long time, as mek stated, for crime purposes amoungst other things.
So I guess privacy takes a backseat.
In some cases, sure. Australia is doing okay though, we have pretty decent privacy laws, but we have cameras in all major heavily populated areas like the rest. Public Safety is pretty important and the cameras do their job. That's not to say the public hasn't disputed the idea since it's installment though.
Uh, no.  Most buildings have internal security cameras, and train stations.  In the UK the streets have security cameras.  Further, msot security cameras are used for internal security, rather than surveillance by police.

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:


In some cases, sure. Australia is doing okay though, we have pretty decent privacy laws, but we have cameras in all major heavily populated areas like the rest. Public Safety is pretty important and the cameras do their job. That's not to say the public hasn't disputed the idea since it's installment though.
Admittedly, I would think Australia has a lot less crime to worry about than the U.S. or the U.K.
Thankfully I can agree, but like the States and U.K, we are just as concerned for the public, whether it be Terrorism, Crime or what have you and in these circumstances, sometimes privacy needs a backseat. It would probably be fair to say 911 and the War on terrorism has played it's part too over the recent years.
This time you've understated the effect of anti-terrorism measures.  The Howard government introduced highly unpopular measures giving the Federal Police a wide range of new powers under the guise of anti-terrorism.

Last edited by ZombieVampire! (2008-05-27 02:37:50)

Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|6239|Fattest Country in the world.

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Uh, no.  Most buildings have internal security cameras, and train stations.  In the UK the streets have security cameras.  Further, msot security cameras are used for internal security, rather than surveillance by police.
You would be thinking of CCTV. Cameras are still operated on the streets, especially in cities.

Zombie_Affair wrote:

This time you've understated the effect of anti-terrorism measures.  The Howard government introduced highly unpopular measures giving the Federal Police a wide range of new powers under the guise of anti-terrorism.
Be sure to point some out. I did say terrorism has played it's part as of late and public backlash has been happening since the Government (especially Howard) done things the way they did.

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