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IrishGrimReaper
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+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Hey, currently I have an AMD motherboard, and seeing some of the things posted about the performance of a Q6600 I wouldn't mind changing to an Intel one instead.

Problem is, I don't know if there's a motherboard out there that'll accept the RAM I have.

Here is what my comp has atm and I need all this stuff on the new motherboard too.
*Current Mobo
*Curent Case.
*Ram.
*Needs two PCI-E slots for SLI 8800GT.
*PSU.
Also, don't know about USB slots, but currently the board I have has 4(3 of which are in use) but the more the better I think.

So, I'd like to buy a Q6600 and a motherboard to fit it in that has all the feauters my current board has. I don't plan to overclock, but I might dabble the GFX's a tiny bit later one, but nothing more than the standard fans can handle.

Also, does the CPU fan come with the Q6600 or what?

Am I missing anything?  any help will be greatly appreciated and karma given.

Danke!

p.s: Prefer using this site www.elara.ie or www.komplett.ie (More so Elara)

Ok so far it looks like:
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsful … ECE1327922
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsful … MMEN350345

That look good? also, I need ram then. Thanks so far lads.

Last edited by IrishGrimReaper (2008-05-24 14:05:58)

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Negerkungen
I could not care less
+541|7013|Topside

What price range did you have in mind??
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Well, from looking about, it look's like €150-€200 is about the range of the Sli Intel ones. But a good price/perfomance one would be good.
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Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7113|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Get some DDR2 for the love of god!
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Well, from looking about, it look's like €150-€200 is about the range of the Sli Intel ones. But a good price/perfomance one would be good.
Am slightly confused (makes a change ), you have €150-€200 for a new SLI capable motherboard and CPU?  I think that is pushing it, will have a look though.  I did look at your RAM link, and am almost certain you wont get a descent SLI board with 65nm support (Q6600) that uses DDR RAM.
Negerkungen
I could not care less
+541|7013|Topside

I would go with this one
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=344350
but you need to change your RAM,otherwise it's a waste of money.
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Bell wrote:

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Well, from looking about, it look's like €150-€200 is about the range of the Sli Intel ones. But a good price/perfomance one would be good.
Am slightly confused (makes a change ), you have €150-€200 for a new SLI capable motherboard and CPU?  I think that is pushing it, will have a look though.  I did look at your RAM link, and am almost certain you wont get a descent SLI board with 65nm support (Q6600) that uses DDR RAM.
Ya I was thinking that, Well RAM is relatively cheap, so I suppose I could invest about €60 for 3GB of it. But the Ram compatability was just wishful thinking aslong as it's got the other stuff its fine, I could get new RAM.
Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Bell wrote:

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Well, from looking about, it look's like €150-€200 is about the range of the Sli Intel ones. But a good price/perfomance one would be good.
Am slightly confused (makes a change ), you have €150-€200 for a new SLI capable motherboard and CPU?  I think that is pushing it, will have a look though.  I did look at your RAM link, and am almost certain you wont get a descent SLI board with 65nm support (Q6600) that uses DDR RAM.
Ya I was thinking that, Well RAM is relatively cheap, so I suppose I could invest about €60 for 3GB of it. But the Ram compatability was just wishful thinking aslong as it's got the other stuff its fine, I could get new RAM.
So what is your budget for the Q6600 and the motherboard?
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6763|N. Ireland
Try getting a 45nm and not 65nm, for ever-needed upgrades.
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Negerkungen wrote:

I would go with this one
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=344350
but you need to change your RAM,otherwise it's a waste of money.
Aye, I was thinking a 780i would come up, would an XFX one be just as good? it's on Elara, and it takes my card as a payment type while Komplett doesnt + it's cheaper...
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsful … MMEN350345
Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Negerkungen wrote:

I would go with this one
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=344350
but you need to change your RAM,otherwise it's a waste of money.
Aye, I was thinking a 780i would come up, would an XFX one be just as good? it's on Elara, and it takes my card as a payment type while Komplett doesnt + it's cheaper...
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsful … MMEN350345

Bell wrote:

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Bell wrote:

Am slightly confused (makes a change ), you have €150-€200 for a new SLI capable motherboard and CPU?  I think that is pushing it, will have a look though.  I did look at your RAM link, and am almost certain you wont get a descent SLI board with 65nm support (Q6600) that uses DDR RAM.
Ya I was thinking that, Well RAM is relatively cheap, so I suppose I could invest about €60 for 3GB of it. But the Ram compatability was just wishful thinking aslong as it's got the other stuff its fine, I could get new RAM.
So what is your budget for the Q6600 and the motherboard?
The Q6600 is about 200 I think wasn't it?
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsful … ECE1327922

So about €460 for Mobo + CPU + Ram (any good Ram suggestions anyone? 3Gb please no need for more i got a 32 bit vista)
Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80
Negerkungen
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+541|7013|Topside

IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Ok, those are Temp Sold out on Komplett... what about this x3? RAM.

Elara really is the better option for me to buy here, saves have to use the sisters Visa.
Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

I cant believe am saying this but if you are set on the Q6600, you could try saving a bit and going with a 680i board instead of a 780i.  There essentially the same boards, except the 780i supports 45nm quads (which isnt a problem with you and the Q6600, though it does limit your upgradability), and PCI-e 2.0 which isnt exactly anything to write home about as of yet when it comes to a detrimental effect on your graphics cards performance.  And a few other small touches.

If you really want to save, I found this:

http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsful … D=S4401291

Which supports everything you asked for, Q6600, two 8800GT's and that DDR2 RAM, but, it wont win any prizes for stability (though all nforce boards have that anoying family charectoristic).

Martyn
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Hmm, I plan to keep this comp for along time and upgrade it as the years go by, so in that sense would the 780i be better? money isn't a problem here, so spending the extra 100 to safe guard spending more on a new mobo in the future would be better for me.

What would you do im my position?

Edit: also what stability probs do you mention? are these in general or related to overclocking etc?

Last edited by IrishGrimReaper (2008-05-24 14:27:21)

Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80
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I could not care less
+541|7013|Topside

I would go with a 780i board
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Alright, what about Thermal Paste and CPU fan?

Thanks alot so far guys.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Alright, what about Thermal Paste and CPU fan?

Thanks alot so far guys.
Price range?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6763|N. Ireland
AS5 (Arctic Silver 5) would do the trick nicely. Regarding the fan...what Freezer said - price?
Negerkungen
I could not care less
+541|7013|Topside

I'm using a Zalman 9700 and Arctic silver 5 thermal paste.
IrishGrimReaper
Field Marshal | o |
+142|6991|Ireland | Monaghan

Nothing extreme for the Fan to be honest I no you all use the Zalmans etc for overclocking, I just want something thatll keep it cool and is of good quality, nothing 2 big either. I suppose about €25 would be good.

p.s: Something that isn't too noisy either please.

Last edited by IrishGrimReaper (2008-05-24 14:39:47)

Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 4GHz || 3x2 GB OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 || 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 || KFA2 GTX 480 1536Mb ||| Samsung T220 || Xonar DX 7.1 || AV 40 || P6T Deluxe V2 || Win 7 HP 64 Bit || Lian Li P80
CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine
RAM: Crucial Ballistix, OCZ Reaper, or some G.Skill.

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500/CNPS9700, Thermalrite Ultra 120 Extreme, or Tuniq Tower

Thermal paste: Arctic Silver 5 or Arctic MX2.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Hmm, I plan to keep this comp for along time and upgrade it as the years go by, so in that sense would the 780i be better? money isn't a problem here, so spending the extra 100 to safe guard spending more on a new mobo in the future would be better for me.

What would you do im my position?

Edit: also what stability probs do you mention? are these in general or related to overclocking etc?
I seem like a total anti nvidia guy on these forms but I genuinly dislike them from personal experience.

I have had first hand experience with no less than nine Nforce boards failing in some way in the last 18 months.  Two Evga 680i boards, and a 780i also from evga (this is where there phenominal customer care comes in, the product might of been shite, but those guys I dealt with where great).  The other six, where mates of mine hoping to jump onto the SLI 8800 bandwagon and having a lot problems with it, they where all hardware problems, defective parts, though one was more of a software issue in my opinion (mix of eVGA, XFX and Asus, the top brands :\).

Contrast that with my dealings of intel boards and I've had two problems, one DOA, and the other, the guy was just being too ambitious with his overclock.

If I where you, I'd go with the Q6600 (well personally an E8400), any Intel board (X48>X38>P35), and run a single graphics card solution.  I dont want to say get rid of the 8800GT's cause there good cards, but perhaps a single more powerful card on an Intel board would be a better option, or even one of those new 4870s. apparntly less than £150 and atleast 25% quicker than a 9800GTX.  But, thats just going to push up that cost.

Does have to be said though, all of the failures I mentioned with Nforce boards did involve overclocking scenario's, under stock settings am sure they would be much more reliable, but the fact of the matter is you could overclock the bijesus out of an intel board and it still be more stable than a stock nforce based rig.

Martyn
Negerkungen
I could not care less
+541|7013|Topside

Use the stock cooler?
CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine

Bell wrote:

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Hmm, I plan to keep this comp for along time and upgrade it as the years go by, so in that sense would the 780i be better? money isn't a problem here, so spending the extra 100 to safe guard spending more on a new mobo in the future would be better for me.

What would you do im my position?

Edit: also what stability probs do you mention? are these in general or related to overclocking etc?
I seem like a total anti nvidia guy on these forms but I genuinly dislike them from personal experience.

I have had first hand experience with no less than nine Nforce boards failing in some way in the last 18 months.  Two Evga 680i boards, and a 780i also from evga (this is where there phenominal customer care comes in, the product might of been shite, but those guys I dealt with where great).  The other six, where mates of mine hoping to jump onto the SLI 8800 bandwagon and having a lot problems with it, they where all hardware problems, defective parts, though one was more of a software issue in my opinion (mix of eVGA, XFX and Asus, the top brands :\).

Contrast that with my dealings of intel boards and I've had two problems, one DOA, and the other, the guy was just being too ambitious with his overclock.

If I where you, I'd go with the Q6600 (well personally an E8400), any Intel board (X48>X38>P35), and run a single graphics card solution.  I dont want to say get rid of the 8800GT's cause there good cards, but perhaps a single more powerful card on an Intel board would be a better option, or even one of those new 4870s. apparntly less than £150 and atleast 25% quicker than a 9800GTX.  But, thats just going to push up that cost.

Does have to be said though, all of the failures I mentioned with Nforce boards did involve overclocking scenario's, under stock settings am sure they would be much more reliable, but the fact of the matter is you could overclock the bijesus out of an intel board and it still be more stable than a stock nforce based rig.

Martyn
You've been extremely unlikely. Did all of these boards come from the same place perhaps?

I know tons of people with 680i's that have never ever had a problem. The only problems I've ever heard from 680i's are when they first came out and had crappy BIOS/drivers, but that was fixed with updates.
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