BF2S Forums Do you consider speeding to be reckless driving?

Bertster7 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

I consider speed limits to be more like guidelines than actual limits. It all depends on road and traffic conditions. I do a lot of driving on the Motorway late at night when there are hardly any other cars about. I don't consider doing 100 or so to be especially reckless then, but doing that through town would be quite silly.

Laws are social guidelines. They need not be followed to the letter. In fact many laws are just plain stupid and need to be ignored entirely. With that, I think I'll go and have a spliff.

Wow. Cops must LOVE you.

They do. Which is why despite being pulled over 4 times for speeding, I have still never gotten a ticket. Not to mention all the other times I've been pulled over for other things and yet still have a totally clean license.

I was referring more to the highlighted part. Speeding is a fairly common thing, which is why I said it depends on the circumstances..

What I can't understand here in britain we have a 70mph national speed limit which has being in place for just over 40 years  but then most cars struggled to do 70-80 whereas now nearly every single car can do 100 and I dont think speed has a part to do with reckless driving unless you are swerving all over the road.

For example if you are on a motorway at 4am and the is probably only 1 car on the inside lane I wouldnt consider it wreckless to to do over 100 yet if it was rush hour I would I think reckless driving depends on time place condition of the roads ect

What annoys me is on these cop programmes if someone gets pullled for speeding they say how they were pushing the car to the limit and the driver has no time to react it makes speeding look like one of the worst crime you can do.

even in my dads ford hes done 90 in a 60 yet I did not feel that he was being wreckless and ive being in a mates car at 110-120 on the motorway and not felt scared for my life, my point is that driving fast is not wreckless in itself but its what the driver does at that speed which can make it wreckless.

Before you say my dad is a wreckless driver hes being driving for just a little over 40 years.

Last edited by wensleydale8 (2008-05-26 02:49:56)

Yes, driving 40 in a normal 30 area that is a housing area is obviously reckless, but driving 40 in a 30 that is one of those inner city dual carriages isn't anywhere as near as dangerous. Or driving at 80 instead of 70 on a motor way doesn't really make much difference, crash head on at either speed and your dead.

Although there is still the point that speeding doesn't cause crashes, crap driving causes crashes.

Last edited by Vilham (2008-05-25 16:54:00)

Yep.  Apart from the fact that I have yet to find a convincing argument in favour of speeding, people already don't give enough room to the car in front.

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Depends on a lot of things.

yes, how many times have you been driving the speed limit, see some guy race past you at 40 km's over the speed limit only to catch him at the next set of red lights 5 minutes later..

Captain_Iron_shooter wrote:

A nice little road in st-sulpice (Quebec) in January 1999,  a two lane highway with a speed limit of 70 km/h .  My cousin is in her car coming back from the notary (she just bought a house with her husband) She's pregnant with their second child. Her husband is following her 4 or 5 cars behind.

On the opposite side a young man in his early 20's, is showing off  in is VW cirroco V6 doing 150 km/h. He takes the curve too fast and slide right in front of my cousin car. She died right there ( with the baby ). He..... survived, he had a friend with him whose going to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair.  Her husband got out off his car to help the guy, but he could not do much, when he turn around he saw my cousin car wrap around a tree. talk about shattered lives and dreams.

In front of the judge he try to explain himself telling the judge it was an accident, he got 2 years minus 1 day, that's nothing.... for 3 lives.

then you hear a story like that and think, wtf is wrong with people who take risks..?

Last edited by twiistaaa (2008-05-26 01:41:52)

Speeding is usually fairly reckless, but there are far worse idiots on the roads.

The complete morons that drive 2ft off your rear bumper whilst you do 70 mph are by far the worst in my opinion. It's just asking to die and kill me at the same time.

Dilbert_X wrote:

If everyone chose to drive at the speed 'they' felt comfortable it would be mayhem, plus traffic flows smoother if people drive a bit slower and a bit steadier.

Newsflash: most people do that anyway. People who go 60mph in a 60mph limit, will often get overtaken (in my areas, anyway). Not by me, I might add, but thats not the point.
People who go 70mph on the motorway are always left standing on the inside lane, hell even by lorries.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Snake wrote:

that was idiots in front deciding they want to turn 10 yards from where the turning is, whilst going at, like, 55mph

YOU are the idiot, driving too close and too fast.

Quick to criticise when you have no idea of the situation or the facts. 2 seconds is the distance, which is where I was, in a 60 zone where he was driving just under the speed limit. It cannot be my fault if he suddenly decides he wants to make that turn.
Therefore, HE (and now YOU) are the idiots.

Quick to criticise when you have no idea of the situation or the facts. 2 seconds is the distance, which is where I was, in a 60 zone where he was driving just under the speed limit. It cannot be my fault if he suddenly decides he wants to make that turn.
Therefore, HE (and now YOU) are the idiots.

No, you need to drive far enough away from the person in front that they can slam on their brakes, say to avoid a child who stepped into the road, and you can stop safely and easily too.
If not you're too close or too fast.

dan673 wrote:

I was thinking about this the other day, so I ask, if you speed, do you consider yourself to be driving recklessly? When I mean speed, I mean going around 85-90mph in a 65mph zone, or going 50 in a 40 and what not. Many times, it is responsible people who need to speed if they are in a rush, but then again you always have some teenagers going it at just for fun.

There was an instance once where a woman was speeding and police past her. Police signaled her down and she pulled over in a hospital parking lot, in a very frantic state, she told police her farther was in the hospital in the emergency room no more then a couple of hundred metres from where she now stood. She was speeding and failed to stop when police first signaled her down and police used force to arrest her. Her father past away that night...

Unfortunately for us, speeding laws are there for a reason. Speed limits exist after many many hours of determing safe speeds in certain areas. You really do no know how much 5 KM/H / MPH can change your life.

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Quick to criticise when you have no idea of the situation or the facts. 2 seconds is the distance, which is where I was, in a 60 zone where he was driving just under the speed limit. It cannot be my fault if he suddenly decides he wants to make that turn.
Therefore, HE (and now YOU) are the idiots.

No, you need to drive far enough away from the person in front that they can slam on their brakes, say to avoid a child who stepped into the road, and you can stop safely and easily too.
If not you're too close or too fast.

this is the fancy guide rule...

ever driven in a crowded city?

Not sure about the Netherlands, but I believe the law changes depending on the zone / area that you're driving in at the time. Time and day can also affect this (In certain states / countries).

Last edited by Zombie_Affair (2008-05-26 02:56:59)

ever driven in a crowded city?

I used to live in London, currently live in another city, I've seen plenty of totally avoidable rear-endings.

At typical city speeds you don't need 2 seconds, you just need to be able to stop safely.
This 2 second thing is a red herring, only applies at 60mph in dry conditions AFAIK, in the wet you need 4 seconds etc.