Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush



A question though. If they are not reporting it how does save the children know about it? The article didn't really say.
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sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

Kmarion wrote:



A question though. If they are not reporting it how does save the children know about it? The article didn't really say.
Maybe some kids speak out.

BBC wrote:

A 13-year-old girl described to the BBC how 10 UN peacekeepers gang-raped her in a field near her Ivory Coast home, and left her bleeding, trembling and vomiting on the ground.

No action has been taken against the soldiers.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina
What should the punishment be for these assholes?  It's disgusting.  The UN is responsible for that.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina
I'm all about disbanding the U.N. as well, but for more reasons than just this.
Vax
Member
+42|6275|Flyover country
Yeah,  this is an old story, but apparently this shit continues.

Clearly some kind of vetting process needs to be implemented on who can be a "peacekeeper"

The UN does do some good on the whole, I don't know if we should get rid of it completely...
Smithereener
Member
+138|6739|California
I had a topic on Peacekeeping Reform for MUN this past year, and one of the aspects was the abuse that peacekeepers inflicted on local populations. It really is quite sad. Yes, the UN should be held responsible for the actions of peacekeepers and should most definitely have stricter rules for the peacekeepers; but we have to realise that UN peacekeepers are pretty much personnel "donated" from other nations, as such, it might be a tad difficult for the UN body itself to keep them in line. But obviously, that's no excuse for having these incidents occur.

As for the whole breakdown of the UN - the UN shouldn't be dissolved, maybe reformed or restructured, but definitely not abolished. Don't get me wrong, the UN is a paper tiger; looks strong but has no real power that we would think an actual government may have. But it does more good than bad I would think. Regardless of whether or not it is able to enforce the policies laid out in conventions and such, you can't deny that they've had major influences in international legislation. The Kyoto Protocol, despite being unratified by the US still prompted the world (including the US, mind you) towards eco-friendly policies. Following the Ottawa Treaty (International Ban on Landmines), the utilisation of mines have decreased throughout the world. Part of the reason the UN fails so frequently is due to the lack of support from the nations that make it up.

When we say "peacekeeping force" or "peacekeepers," we automatically think of the UN; there are a lot of other peacekeeping organizations around the globe. Take NATO for example, I believe (my memory might be a bit fuzzy on this; research was done like... 8 months ago or something) their peacekeeping forces in Bosnia were accused of similar acts of sexual abuse on the local population. Should we disband NATO for it's inabilty to prevent such atrocities?
David.P
Banned
+649|6697
That's it! I'm tired of this U.N. bull! America get the fuck out of the UN and solve things our own way!
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6961|Long Island, New York

David.P wrote:

That's it! I'm tired of this U.N. bull! America get the fuck out of the UN and solve things our own way!
That totally worked after WWI, right?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

Poseidon wrote:

David.P wrote:

That's it! I'm tired of this U.N. bull! America get the fuck out of the UN and solve things our own way!
That totally worked after WWI, right?
The lack of success of the League of Nations is hardly the cause of WW2.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6961|Long Island, New York

SenorToenails wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

David.P wrote:

That's it! I'm tired of this U.N. bull! America get the fuck out of the UN and solve things our own way!
That totally worked after WWI, right?
The lack of success of the League of Nations is hardly the cause of WW2.
Oh no, I'm not saying that. It attributed to it, but didn't cause it.

However, America creating the LoN but not being in it was stupid.

But then again, the LoN had no teeth to begin with.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

But then again, the LoN had no teeth to begin with.
Sounds familiar.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6961|Long Island, New York

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

But then again, the LoN had no teeth to begin with.
Sounds familiar.
John McCain in 3 years?
cowami
OY, BITCHTITS!
+1,106|6713|Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk

Poseidon wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


That totally worked after WWI, right?
The lack of success of the League of Nations is hardly the cause of WW2.
Oh no, I'm not saying that. It attributed to it, but didn't cause it.

However, America creating the LoN but not being in it was stupid.

But then again, the LoN had no teeth to begin with.
we can thank congress for that
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David.P
Banned
+649|6697

Poseidon wrote:

David.P wrote:

That's it! I'm tired of this U.N. bull! America get the fuck out of the UN and solve things our own way!
That totally worked after WWI, right?
Hey i'm just pissed that we gotta follow some stupid UN rules, and protocols that wont let us protect ourselves or those we give aid too unless certain conditions are met! What the Fucking Fuck!? If a village is getting fired upon by some goddamn motherfucking rebels, Then i dont see why we cannot step in and fight back.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

But then again, the LoN had no teeth to begin with.
Sounds familiar.
John McCain in 3 years?
Seniorphobe Bigot

lol
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6961|Long Island, New York

David.P wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

David.P wrote:

That's it! I'm tired of this U.N. bull! America get the fuck out of the UN and solve things our own way!
That totally worked after WWI, right?
Hey i'm just pissed that we gotta follow some stupid UN rules, and protocols that wont let us protect ourselves or those we give aid too unless certain conditions are met! What the Fucking Fuck!? If a village is getting fired upon by some goddamn motherfucking rebels, Then i dont see why we cannot step in and fight back.
God damn Geneva conventions, who cares about human rights!

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Sounds familiar.
John McCain in 3 years?
Seniorphobe Bigot

lol
Yeah, that's what happens when I spend 2 weeks in Florida alone at the age of 14. Scarred for life.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY
https://www.senortoenails.com/ModelUN.png

David.P
Banned
+649|6697

Poseidon wrote:

God damn Geneva conventions, who cares about human rights!
Damn Right! Brb Basement.

EDIT: Ok i'm back, Door was open but nothing got out... (I hope)

SenorToenails wrote:

https://www.senortoenails.com/ModelUN.png

Lawful Evil?

Last edited by David.P (2008-05-26 23:06:51)

PureFodder
Member
+225|6708
That's terrible, sick fuckers.

On another note it seems pretty dumb to complain about both the lack of reporting of incidents and punishment. If there's little reporting of incidents, then clearly there won't be many punishments.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7072
No, don't shut down the UN serg...give them severe disciplinary punishment.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6834|'Murka

Poseidon wrote:

David.P wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


That totally worked after WWI, right?
Hey i'm just pissed that we gotta follow some stupid UN rules, and protocols that wont let us protect ourselves or those we give aid too unless certain conditions are met! What the Fucking Fuck!? If a village is getting fired upon by some goddamn motherfucking rebels, Then i dont see why we cannot step in and fight back.
God damn Geneva conventions, who cares about human rights!
I'm pretty sure that what he's talking about has nothing to do with the Geneva Convention and everything to do with the UN's ultra-restrictive ROE that actually keep the forces there from doing their jobs (peacekeeping, food distribution, convoy protection, etc).
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RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
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United nations... or NAMBLA for short.

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