sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7189|UK
From a rocket launcher delivered straight to his face?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6827|North Carolina
If any country needs to be invaded...  it would be a tie between Zimbabwe and Burma.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7190
When are we going to get involved in this? Surely this falls under the doctrine of spreading democracy??
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7188|Cambridge (UK)

BN wrote:

When are we going to get involved in this? Surely this falls under the doctrine of spreading democracy??
Not enough oil.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6827|North Carolina

BN wrote:

When are we going to get involved in this? Surely this falls under the doctrine of spreading democracy??
...or at least the doctrine of promoting human rights.  I'm not so sure if continuing "democracy" is such a good idea with Zimbabwe, since their own democracy seems to have fallen apart.

Whatever the case, they definitely need a new government with leadership that isn't so oppressive.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7023|132 and Bush

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7188|Cambridge (UK)
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7023|132 and Bush

Being the BBC

Spoiler (highlight to read):
The BBC is banned from Zimbabwe
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250
Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7023|132 and Bush

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
You have a limited memory of history.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
WWII.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250

Kmarion wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
You have a limited memory of history.
Such as?

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
WWII.
Was an international incident which garnered an international response.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
You have a limited memory of history.
Such as?

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Yes, because invading nations with dictatorships has worked so well in the past

If the people don't sort out their own political situation, it'll only lead to more problems.
WWII.
Was an international incident which garnered an international response.
Assume that Hitler didn't invade Poland, but he committed the Holocaust, in your opinion the world should have let Germans solve their problems?
killcommies
Member
+3|6227

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


You have a limited memory of history.
Such as?

sergeriver wrote:

WWII.
Was an international incident which garnered an international response.
Assume that Hitler didn't invade Poland, but he committed the Holocaust, in your opinion the world should have let Germans solve their problems?
Assume the soviet union committed a holocaust against christians, should the world have let the soviets get away with it? ... oh wait...

Last edited by killcommies (2008-06-07 05:26:59)

ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250

sergeriver wrote:

Assume that Hitler didn't invade Poland, but he committed the Holocaust, in your opinion the world should have let Germans solve their problems?
Yes.  Just the same as they let Stalin kill all sorts of people.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

ZombieVampire! wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Assume that Hitler didn't invade Poland, but he committed the Holocaust, in your opinion the world should have let Germans solve their problems?
Yes.  Just the same as they let Stalin kill all sorts of people.
So, Human Rights are a matter of boundaries.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250
No, but sovereignty is vital to world stability.

Besides which, where do you draw the line?  How bad does it have to be before you step in?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

ZombieVampire! wrote:

No, but sovereignty is vital to world stability.

Besides which, where do you draw the line?  How bad does it have to be before you step in?
IMO the Holocaust was bad enough.  And so is Zimbabwe.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250
You didn't answer the question.

At what point does it become reasonable to invade?
killcommies
Member
+3|6227

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

No, but sovereignty is vital to world stability.

Besides which, where do you draw the line?  How bad does it have to be before you step in?
IMO the Holocaust was bad enough.  And so is Zimbabwe.
Stalin killed far more than the holocaust did, far, far more - and apparently the holocaust was enough? were the lives of those killed by the soviets worthless? Apparently so, since people can flaunt their hammers and sickles on this forum but I cannot have a signature that says "fascism above all".
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6250
Perhaps that's because those showing hammers and sickles aren't Stalinists.

Not that I agree with the decision.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

killcommies wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

No, but sovereignty is vital to world stability.

Besides which, where do you draw the line?  How bad does it have to be before you step in?
IMO the Holocaust was bad enough.  And so is Zimbabwe.
Stalin killed far more than the holocaust did, far, far more - and apparently the holocaust was enough? were the lives of those killed by the soviets worthless? Apparently so, since people can flaunt their hammers and sickles on this forum but I cannot have a signature that says "fascism above all".
Where did I say that what Stalin did wasn't bad?
killcommies
Member
+3|6227

sergeriver wrote:

killcommies wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

IMO the Holocaust was bad enough.  And so is Zimbabwe.
Stalin killed far more than the holocaust did, far, far more - and apparently the holocaust was enough? were the lives of those killed by the soviets worthless? Apparently so, since people can flaunt their hammers and sickles on this forum but I cannot have a signature that says "fascism above all".
Where did I say that what Stalin did wasn't bad?
The second you referred to the holocaust instead of stalins massacre's as the first argument.

also, who the hell is jord?

Last edited by killcommies (2008-06-07 06:05:00)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

killcommies wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

killcommies wrote:


Stalin killed far more than the holocaust did, far, far more - and apparently the holocaust was enough? were the lives of those killed by the soviets worthless? Apparently so, since people can flaunt their hammers and sickles on this forum but I cannot have a signature that says "fascism above all".
Where did I say that what Stalin did wasn't bad?
The second you referred to the holocaust instead of stalins massacre's as the first argument.

also, who the hell is jord?
I see, well you must be ok with the Genocide in Rwanda since you didn't refer to it.

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