HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6383|Washington DC

FatherTed wrote:

I'm not sure if this is true but:

As i understand it, Cats think they own you. Them bringing you half dead animals is an invitation "to finish it off" - They're trying to teach you to hunt.
I've always heard it's the other way around; cats bring you the animals to show off their catches.
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6529|Birmingham, UK
Here he is: (Bertie)

https://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii94/GeneralArnott/Bertie.jpg

Last edited by SEREVENT (2008-06-12 12:42:30)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland
When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son,
Always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns.
But I shot a gopher in Montana just to watch it die
When I hear that gopher screaming, I hang my head and cry..

I have killed over 1500 gophers to date with my trusty Ruger 10-22 and my Browning Buckmark .22 pistol.  I live with this pain daily.
imortal
Member
+240|7087|Austin, TX

Lotta_Drool wrote:

When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son,
Always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns.
But I shot a gopher in Montana just to watch it die
When I hear that gopher screaming, I hang my head and cry..

I have killed over 1500 gophers to date with my trusty Ruger 10-22 and my Browning Buckmark .22 pistol.  I live with this pain daily.
Pain?  Blister on your trigger finger?  I sure know it isn't recoil with a .22LR. 

Or do you mean guilt?

I crushed a racoon's skull with a rock once, because a car had run it over and hurt it; it would not let anyone near to help it.  You want to talk personal?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6552|North Tonawanda, NY

HurricaИe wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

I'm not sure if this is true but:

As i understand it, Cats think they own you. Them bringing you half dead animals is an invitation "to finish it off" - They're trying to teach you to hunt.
I've always heard it's the other way around; cats bring you the animals to show off their catches.

Wikipedia wrote:

One poorly-understood element of cat hunting behavior is the presentation of killed prey to human owners. Ethologist Paul Leyhausen proposed that cats adopt humans into their social group, and share excess kill with others in the group according to the local pecking order, in which humans are placed at or near the top. Another possibility is that presenting the kill might be a relic of a kitten's behavior of demonstrating for its mother's approval that it has developed the necessary skill for hunting.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6922|so randum

imortal wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son,
Always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns.
But I shot a gopher in Montana just to watch it die
When I hear that gopher screaming, I hang my head and cry..

I have killed over 1500 gophers to date with my trusty Ruger 10-22 and my Browning Buckmark .22 pistol.  I live with this pain daily.
Pain?  Blister on your trigger finger?  I sure know it isn't recoil with a .22LR. 

Or do you mean guilt?

I crushed a racoon's skull with a rock once, because a car had run it over and hurt it; it would not let anyone near to help it.  You want to talk personal?
We ran across a cat that had been struck by a car once (this was in Crete). My dad, having grown up on a Cattle farm and so on, knew what to do.

He got out the car, snapped its neck, and layed it in the bushes.


I thought that was immensely cruel at first, but now i see it was the best he could have done.
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Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland

imortal wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son,
Always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns.
But I shot a gopher in Montana just to watch it die
When I hear that gopher screaming, I hang my head and cry..

I have killed over 1500 gophers to date with my trusty Ruger 10-22 and my Browning Buckmark .22 pistol.  I live with this pain daily.
Pain?  Blister on your trigger finger?  I sure know it isn't recoil with a .22LR. 

Or do you mean guilt?

I crushed a racoon's skull with a rock once, because a car had run it over and hurt it; it would not let anyone near to help it.  You want to talk personal?
I killed my Grandfather's cat that had grown to old to car for itself because he didn't have the heart too.  I also killed 5 kittens that had gotten frostbite on their paws overnight during an extreme cold snap.

I once had to cut a couple mule deer throats while hunting with my uncle because he grabbed the wrong ammo and he only had the one round in his Rolling block rifle.  He shot the front legs clean off a Doe and one of the front legs off a fawn standing on the other side.  The doe was actually growling and bearing its teeth at me and trying to kick me with its back legs.  I had to chase the fawn for about 200 yards to catch it.  You don't want to get kicked by a deer, those holves are sharp and will rip you open.

I must say that none of these experiences compare remotely to seeing a human get killed or mangled, not even remotely.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6809
My dog does that with baby rabbits all the time. She figures it a small fluffy play toy that is fun to fling through the air.
imortal
Member
+240|7087|Austin, TX

Lotta_Drool wrote:

imortal wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son,
Always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns.
But I shot a gopher in Montana just to watch it die
When I hear that gopher screaming, I hang my head and cry..

I have killed over 1500 gophers to date with my trusty Ruger 10-22 and my Browning Buckmark .22 pistol.  I live with this pain daily.
Pain?  Blister on your trigger finger?  I sure know it isn't recoil with a .22LR. 

Or do you mean guilt?

I crushed a racoon's skull with a rock once, because a car had run it over and hurt it; it would not let anyone near to help it.  You want to talk personal?
I killed my Grandfather's cat that had grown to old to car for itself because he didn't have the heart too.  I also killed 5 kittens that had gotten frostbite on their paws overnight during an extreme cold snap.

I once had to cut a couple mule deer throats while hunting with my uncle because he grabbed the wrong ammo and he only had the one round in his Rolling block rifle.  He shot the front legs clean off a Doe and one of the front legs off a fawn standing on the other side.  The doe was actually growling and bearing its teeth at me and trying to kick me with its back legs.  I had to chase the fawn for about 200 yards to catch it.  You don't want to get kicked by a deer, those holves are sharp and will rip you open.

I must say that none of these experiences compare remotely to seeing a human get killed or mangled, not even remotely.
...speaking as one who has seen both, I would agree.  I posted that in response to your pain and gopher comment.  I was in the Army for 8 years, and I have been working the last couple years as an EMT.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland
I was just quoting a Johnny Cash song making light of the rodents I have killed in my life and what kind of effect it might have on me if I was of the same mentality as the OP.
imortal
Member
+240|7087|Austin, TX

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I was just quoting a Johnny Cash song making light of the rodents I have killed in my life and what kind of effect it might have on me if I was of the same mentality as the OP.
Oh.  My OSID (Online Sarcasm and Irony Detector) seems to be on the fritz. Well, at least it is still under warranty; I will have to send it in for servicing.
GuliblGuy
Zulu son, what!?!
+79|7207|Anaheim, CA

ghettoperson wrote:

I wanted to answer 'knifes' to this thread.
I wanted to put bullets.
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6962|byah

SEREVENT wrote:

The creulty of nature. Take my pet cat for example, Lily. She is more of a hunter over my other cat, Bertie. Anyway, Lily has caught countless birds over the 2 years i've had them. Many of these were baby birds, without feathers. Yesterday she caught a baby bird again, luckily this time she killed it.

But alot of the time she doesn't. If cats aren't taught by their mothers how to kill, they never learn how to. Either they kill it, or they just catch it and use it as a toy.

Like when she found the nest of rats, i know they are vermin and all, but they were tiny babies. Luckily with the rats she killed them, and ate them like she normally does since we limited the amount of meat that she can eat 'cause its unhealthy. Anyway i'm just rambling.

So, anyway although this process of animals killing each other is very necessary, does anyone find that it is so cruel? Especially when you have to pick up and bin the dead animals that your pets catch, or try and save them like i managed to do a few weeks ago.
Your joking right? Go watch animal planet and you will see "animal cruelty" in full effect in the wild.

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