marine throwing puppy

2008-06-12 17:52:26

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i g: Banned; +876|6334|GA

HONOLULU - The Marine Corps said Wednesday it was expelling one Marine and disciplining another for their roles in a video showing a Marine throwing a puppy off a cliff while on patrol in Iraq.

The 17-second video posted on YouTube drew sharp condemnation from animal rights groups when it came to light in March.

The clip shows two Marines joking before one hurls the puppy into a rocky gully. A yelping sound is heard as it flips through the air.

"That's mean. That's mean, Motari," an off-camera Marine is heard telling the Marine who tossed the black and white dog. The off-camera Marine snickered slightly afterward.

Lance Cpl. David Motari, assigned to the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment at Kaneohe Bay, is "being processed for separation" from the Marine Corps, the Marine Corps said in a news release. He also received unspecified "non-judicial punishment."

The Marine Corps didn't say what role Motari played in the clip.

The video was viewed tens of thousands of times before YouTube took it down because of a violation of the site's terms of use.

"The actions seen in the Internet video are contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine and will not be tolerated," Marine Corps Base Hawaii said in a news release. "The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties with honor and compassion that makes American people proud."

The second Marine, Sgt. Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion, also received unspecified "non-judicial" punishment.

Encarnacion is assigned to the Weapons and Field Training Battalion, Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego.

First Lt. Binford Strickland, a Marine Corps Base Hawaii spokesman, said the service may not reveal what roles the two men played in the video because that was part of the investigation. He said releasing such information would violate the Privacy Act.

Strickland declined to provide details about the disciplinary measures taken against the men for the same reason.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25108189/

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2008-06-12 17:53:10

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Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

Good.

2008-06-12 17:53:48

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God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6813|tropical regions of london

stupid puppy.

2008-06-12 17:54:34

#4

r'Eeee: That's how I roll, BITCH!; +311|6918

Idiots, they deserve it.

2008-06-12 18:12:36

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6938

We train them to kill, tell them to kill and then get pissed off when they do?

WTF

2008-06-12 18:15:17

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GravyDan: Back from the Grave(y); +768|6402|CA

DoctaStrangelove wrote:
We train them to kill, tell them to kill and then get pissed off when they do?

WTF

I'm pretty sure puppy killing is not part of the training.

2008-06-12 18:16:29

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Ryan: Member; +1,230|7313|Alberta, Canada

I think we came to a conclusion that it was a fake, didn't we?

2008-06-12 18:17:39

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6623|what

It was a dog act.

2008-06-12 18:19:05

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Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|7177|67.222.138.85

It looks really terrible to us...but we're not in their shoes. It's hard for those of us in our cushy chairs watching youtube to judge someone getting shot at thousands of miles away from home.

2008-06-12 18:25:01

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GR34: Member; +215|7015|ALBERTA> CANADA

I want to throw that mother fucker who did that off a cliff, see how he fucking likes it.

2008-06-12 18:25:55

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i g: Banned; +876|6334|GA

Ryan wrote:
I think we came to a conclusion that it was a fake, didn't we?

obviously not...

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It looks really terrible to us...but we're not in their shoes. It's hard for those of us in our cushy chairs watching youtube to judge someone getting shot at thousands of miles away from home.

so you're saying there's nothing wrong with that? i understand where you're coming from, but i don't care what is going on over there; nobody has the right to do that to an innocent puppy.

2008-06-12 18:28:36

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Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|7177|67.222.138.85

I think it was wrong, and I think he should be punished, but I don't think we should be judging him for it. You and I just don't know what he was going through.

2008-06-12 18:29:16

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GravyDan: Back from the Grave(y); +768|6402|CA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It looks really terrible to us...but we're not in their shoes. It's hard for those of us in our cushy chairs watching youtube to judge someone getting shot at thousands of miles away from home.

Seriously? So serving in the military and "getting shot at thousands of miles away from home" justifies such an atrocious act? What if he was raping women or shooting kids? Would it then be ok for me to judge?

My point is that you must draw the line somewhere, and people that lack common sense should have to face up to the consequences of their actions. This idiot will undoubtedly get off much, much easier than he deserves.

2008-06-12 18:32:05

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Volatile: Member; +252|7174|Sextupling in Empire

Wow, our country is run by a bunch of pussies.

Soldiers shoot dogs and cats and blow up animals all the time. We're allowed to blow up and kill humans but god forbid we kill a puppy.

Those of you that were outraged over this video, you disgust me.

Why don't you pack your bags and head over to the sandbox ...

You know what, I'm wasting my breath. Most of you are just kids.

2008-06-12 18:33:51

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6938

GravyDan wrote:
DoctaStrangelove wrote:
We train them to kill, tell them to kill and then get pissed off when they do?

WTF
I'm pretty sure puppy killing is not part of the training.

So you rather they be killing people?

2008-06-12 18:34:46

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The_Sniper_NM: Official EVGA Fanboy; +94|6584|SC | USA |

Knew the Marine Corps would discipline. Took them awhile to investigate with one of the Marines name being said in the video.

2008-06-12 18:36:43

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GravyDan: Back from the Grave(y); +768|6402|CA

DoctaStrangelove wrote:
GravyDan wrote:
DoctaStrangelove wrote:
We train them to kill, tell them to kill and then get pissed off when they do?

WTF
I'm pretty sure puppy killing is not part of the training.
So you rather they be killing people?

I would prefer that they not kill innocent and helpless animals or people.

2008-06-12 18:39:43

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Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|7177|67.222.138.85

GravyDan wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It looks really terrible to us...but we're not in their shoes. It's hard for those of us in our cushy chairs watching youtube to judge someone getting shot at thousands of miles away from home.
Seriously? So serving in the military and "getting shot at thousands of miles away from home" justifies such an atrocious act? What if he was raping women or shooting kids? Would it then be ok for me to judge?

My point is that you must draw the line somewhere, and people that lack common sense should have to face up to the consequences of their actions. This idiot will undoubtedly get off much, much easier than he deserves.

Nope.

I said he should face up. Going through tough shit doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make him the scum of the earth. I wouldn't go much further than calling him an idiot if I had never served overseas.

2008-06-12 18:42:02

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6938

GravyDan wrote:
DoctaStrangelove wrote:
GravyDan wrote:

I'm pretty sure puppy killing is not part of the training.
So you rather they be killing people?
I would prefer that they not kill innocent and helpless animals or people.

How do we know it's not a terrorist dog. Heck how do we know it's even a real dog, looks fake to me, it doesn't move at all and the whining doesn't get realistically less loud as it is thrown.

2008-06-12 18:43:37

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God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6813|tropical regions of london

I hear bullets have pointy tips that could actually hurt a person.

2008-06-12 18:44:16

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konfusion: mostly afk; +480|7020|CH/BR - in UK

Just saw that. What pissed me off is that they said this material may be offensive and disturbing, while Arabs' entrails are ok to show on TV. Sure, it was bad - but I think this is getting way too much attention. It was a cute animal, and that's the only reason it's on the news.

-kon

2008-06-12 18:45:59

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HurricaИe: Banned; +877|6431|Washington DC

1) I think animal abuse in general is terrible, and animal abusers aren't right in the head

2) That said, this guy could very well be not right in the head... war can do things to people.

3) THAT said, he also has to uphold the honor and image of the Marine Corps. Shit like this only taints the name.

4) HUMAN BEINGS are fucking dying every minute around the world and I hear ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about that. "Oh, yeah, Darfur. Oh, yeah, Myanmar." But as soon as a DOG gets killed, everyone is up in fucking arms! What the fuck people, where are your priorities? I love my pet dog to death; after seeing this video way back when I just wanted to cuddle her. But have some fucking perspective.

5) What amazes me is that people are all like "WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT A HORRIBLE PERSON" for his actions... and then they go "I WISH THIS MOTHERFUCKER GOT KILLED" (yes, people legit said that). You people wishing death on a guy for this (especially given the possible circumstances) are no better than he is. This isn't some kid setting a cat on fire, it's a guy who's possibly mentally damaged. Instead of trying to kill him, we should try to help him. And to help every soldier who's been mentally scarred by this war.

2008-06-12 18:47:39

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THE_EYE: Banned; +76|6275|Amsterdam, NY

HurricaИe wrote:
1) I think animal abuse in general is terrible, and animal abusers aren't right in the head

2) That said, this guy could very well be not right in the head... war can do things to people.

3) THAT said, he also has to uphold the honor and image of the Marine Corps. Shit like this only taints the name.

4) HUMAN BEINGS are fucking dying every minute around the world and I hear ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about that. "Oh, yeah, Darfur. Oh, yeah, Myanmar." But as soon as a DOG gets killed, everyone is up in fucking arms! What the fuck people, where are your priorities? I love my pet dog to death; after seeing this video way back when I just wanted to cuddle her. But have some fucking perspective.

5) What amazes me is that people are all like "WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT A HORRIBLE PERSON" for his actions... and then they go "I WISH THIS MOTHERFUCKER GOT KILLED" (yes, people legit said that). You people wishing death on a guy for this (especially given the possible circumstances) are no better than he is. This isn't some kid setting a cat on fire, it's a guy who's possibly mentally damaged. Instead of trying to kill him, we should try to help him. And to help every soldier who's been mentally scarred by this war.

QFT

2008-06-12 18:48:01

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argo4: Stand and Deliver; +86|6403|United States

Volatile wrote:
Wow, our country is run by a bunch of pussies.

Soldiers shoot dogs and cats and blow up animals all the time. We're allowed to blow up and kill humans but god forbid we kill a puppy.

Those of you that were outraged over this video, you disgust me.

Why don't you pack your bags and head over to the sandbox ...

You know what, I'm wasting my breath. Most of you are just kids.

QFT

just what i was gonna say

2008-06-12 18:49:38

#25

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6813|tropical regions of london

Volatile wrote:
Wow, our country is run by a bunch of pussies.

Soldiers shoot dogs and cats and blow up animals all the time. We're allowed to blow up and kill humans but god forbid we kill a puppy.

Those of you that were outraged over this video, you disgust me.

Why don't you pack your bags and head over to the sandbox ...

You know what, I'm wasting my breath. Most of you are just kids.

good post. Im glad some people here have got their head in the right place.

hurricane, I could agree to almost all of your points, except, killing a puppy isnt going to do anything to taint a marine's honor.

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