Bush's dog Barney for Secretary of Defense '08.Kmarion wrote:
lol.. no one is saying treat them like humans. I havent heard anyone advocate voting rights for dogs yet .
I don't know how this is a blank check for animal abuse though.
I'll let you figure that out yourself.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Man is the master.DefCon-17 wrote:
Yes, man is the master.
We destroy nature and start wars.
Respect us, goddamnit!
God Save the Queen wrote:
better start taking back all your support for our troops if this shit really upsets you
Yeah, I think I'll start hating black people because some African American ran over a dog on purpose.
People are acting like it's a human. The reaction to the video is much closer to that of throwing a human being off a cliff than throwing a scorpion off the cliff.Kmarion wrote:
lol.. no one is saying treat them like humans. I haven't heard anyone advocate voting rights for dogs yet .Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Yes, they're stupid animals. They are not intelligent, they have been tamed to serve man, and it must always be remembered that they should not be treated like humans.Poseidon wrote:
"Stupid animals".
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Appaling. Absolutely appaling. If only the people who were saved by those "stupid animals" could talk to you.
I don't know how this is a blank check for animal abuse though.
There is a responsibility being the master of a dog. In return for loyalty and obedience, they must be protected and treated with care.
I don't think anyone's saying it was called for. I myself, at least, am saying that far worse things happen each day than a puppy dying. It's sad, yes, but imagine if all the anger people directed towards this one guy for one action was instead directed towards our (US) government for doing... well, not doing much.belldawg wrote:
Well yer, but they're our enemies. That was a dog, and unless it had a bomb strapped to it, throwing it off a cliff was uncalled for.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Because the one thing you know the troops are doing is shooting at other people.belldawg wrote:
Why because all troops do this?
while youre at it, better start kicking 90% of the United States Army infantry out of the military
My point is when you drop thousands of troops and equipment across the world and the one thing you can be sure they're doing is fighting and dying, you can bet there is a hell of a lot of other things going on that you probably don't want to know about.belldawg wrote:
Well yer, but they're our enemies. That was a dog, and unless it had a bomb strapped to it, throwing it off a cliff was uncalled for.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Because the one thing you know the troops are doing is shooting at other people.belldawg wrote:
Why because all troops do this?
Well, "people" might be acting as if there is no difference. I certainly am not.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
People are acting like it's a human. The reaction to the video is much closer to that of throwing a human being off a cliff than throwing a scorpion off the cliff.Kmarion wrote:
lol.. no one is saying treat them like humans. I haven't heard anyone advocate voting rights for dogs yet .Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Yes, they're stupid animals. They are not intelligent, they have been tamed to serve man, and it must always be remembered that they should not be treated like humans.
I don't know how this is a blank check for animal abuse though.
There is a responsibility being the master of a dog. In return for loyalty and obedience, they must be protected and treated with care.
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This isn't about the stuff our troops have to do and go through, it's about a dog being thrown off a cliff.
By the second comment I'll take it as sarcasm. We are masters of this earth, be you religious or not.DefCon-17 wrote:
I'll let you figure that out yourself.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Man is the master.DefCon-17 wrote:
Yes, man is the master.
We destroy nature and start wars.
Respect us, goddamnit!God Save the Queen wrote:
better start taking back all your support for our troops if this shit really upsets you
Yeah, I think I'll start hating black people because some African American ran over a dog on purpose.
It's the attitude, not necessarily the feelings directed at the individual.
youre right, its not. if it was, I would have said so.belldawg wrote:
This isn't about the stuff our troops have to do and go through.
Why, because you say this is the norm? da fuckGod Save the Queen wrote:
while youre at it, better start kicking 90% of the United States Army infantry out of the military
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What the fuck do you think it going on over there? You think they're playing house?Kmarion wrote:
Why, because you say this is the norm? da fuckGod Save the Queen wrote:
while youre at it, better start kicking 90% of the United States Army infantry out of the military
Well then why are you saying we better kick out 90% of the military? 90% of them throw dogs off cliffs?God Save the Queen wrote:
youre right, its not. if it was, I would have said so.belldawg wrote:
This isn't about the stuff our troops have to do and go through.
yes. its the norm. most patrols ive been on, dogs were shot and killed for no reason whenever they were spotted. sorry to say it. its the truth. thats why all this crying about a puppy being thrown off a cliff is pretty damn funny when I think about all the dogs that ive seen shot.
I do agree we are the dominant species, but that's no reason for anyone to write other life off as "stupid".Flaming_Maniac wrote:
By the second comment I'll take it as sarcasm. We are masters of this earth, be you religious or not.DefCon-17 wrote:
I'll let you figure that out yourself.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Man is the master.God Save the Queen wrote:
better start taking back all your support for our troops if this shit really upsets you
Yeah, I think I'll start hating black people because some African American ran over a dog on purpose.
It's the attitude, not necessarily the feelings directed at the individual.
Besides, the only reason we are dominant is our intelligence.
We aren't shit without technology.
Well you didn't mention that before.God Save the Queen wrote:
yes. its the norm. most patrols ive been on, dogs were shot and killed for no reason whenever they were spotted. sorry to say it. its the truth. thats why all this crying about a puppy being thrown off a cliff is pretty damn funny when I think about all the dogs that ive seen shot.
Just shoot dog's for shits n giggles aye
and Im not just talking about stray dogs either. Most of the time they were strays, roving packs of wild dogs that liked to attack people. at 0200, the only things out in the parts of iraq that I saw were insurgents, soldiers and wild dogs. but sometimes, when a raid would come across a hostile house dog, it would be shot. no tears.
but we do have technology, and that is why other animals are stupid. I don't mean stupid as in worthless, I mean stupid as in animalistic, lacking in intelligence.DefCon-17 wrote:
I do agree we are the dominant species, but that's no reason for anyone to write other life off as "stupid".Flaming_Maniac wrote:
By the second comment I'll take it as sarcasm. We are masters of this earth, be you religious or not.DefCon-17 wrote:
I'll let you figure that out yourself.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Man is the master.
Yeah, I think I'll start hating black people because some African American ran over a dog on purpose.
It's the attitude, not necessarily the feelings directed at the individual.
Besides, the only reason we are dominant is our intelligence.
We aren't shit without technology.
Because we are relatively weak, animals must always be respected for their physical dominance. You don't underestimate an animal, even a tame one, for what it can do.
not an image people want to think of when they think of our combat troops. its a non issue to me.belldawg wrote:
Well you didn't mention that before.God Save the Queen wrote:
yes. its the norm. most patrols ive been on, dogs were shot and killed for no reason whenever they were spotted. sorry to say it. its the truth. thats why all this crying about a puppy being thrown off a cliff is pretty damn funny when I think about all the dogs that ive seen shot.
Just shoot dog's for shits n giggles aye
Well if it attacks you then you should shoot it. Better it then you.God Save the Queen wrote:
and Im not just talking about stray dogs either. Most of the time they were strays, roving packs of wild dogs that liked to attack people. at 0200, the only things out in the parts of iraq that I saw were insurgents, soldiers and wild dogs. but sometimes, when a raid would come across a hostile house dog, it would be shot. no tears.
But the video showed troops throwing a harmless puppy off a cliff. There's a difference
One man's experience. You know if you keep tossing your service out every other post you are going to throw your shoulder out. Lot's of us have friends and family who have served. Some of them a lot longer than you. To say we don't support the troops because we think this guy is an asshole is absurd.. really.God Save the Queen wrote:
yes. its the norm. most patrols ive been on, dogs were shot and killed for no reason whenever they were spotted. sorry to say it. its the truth. thats why all this crying about a puppy being thrown off a cliff is pretty damn funny when I think about all the dogs that ive seen shot.
@ Flaming , yes I do .
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Well sure, but that's based on comparison.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
but we do have technology, and that is why other animals are stupid. I don't mean stupid as in worthless, I mean stupid as in animalistic, lacking in intelligence.DefCon-17 wrote:
I do agree we are the dominant species, but that's no reason for anyone to write other life off as "stupid".Flaming_Maniac wrote:
By the second comment I'll take it as sarcasm. We are masters of this earth, be you religious or not.
It's the attitude, not necessarily the feelings directed at the individual.
Besides, the only reason we are dominant is our intelligence.
We aren't shit without technology.
Because we are relatively weak, animals must always be respected for their physical dominance. You don't underestimate an animal, even a tame one, for what it can do.
Maybe there is some alien race that makes us look like idiots.
..Technology wise, that is.
The human race is pretty idiotic in general.
different than shooting a dog walking down the road for no reason?
my service is the exact reason I get my perspective and my frustration. If i wasnt going to discuss my experiences in iraq during OIF II, why else would I post in this thread????Kmarion wrote:
One man's experience. You know if you keep tossing your service out every other post you are going to throw your shoulder out. Lot's of us have friends and family who have served. Some of them a lot longer than you. To say we don't support the troops because we think this guy is an asshole is absurd.. really.God Save the Queen wrote:
yes. its the norm. most patrols ive been on, dogs were shot and killed for no reason whenever they were spotted. sorry to say it. its the truth. thats why all this crying about a puppy being thrown off a cliff is pretty damn funny when I think about all the dogs that ive seen shot.
@ Flaming , yes I do .
and I never said you dont support the troops. I said, if you are going to be happy about this guy getting kicked out, you should try to get the 90% of combat troops that Ive seen, worked with and talked to as well. This isnt just one man's experience kerry. I recently talked to a sheriffs deputy who just got back from iraq and the first thing his partner said he did (jokingly) was "all you did was kill dogs" which led me to believe his experiences must have been similiar to mine. this is just recently, every other vet ive talked to, especially the ones I still serve with would agree with me.
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