SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6552|North Tonawanda, NY
I don't mean to post a headline, but I thought this was interesting:

Scientists confirm that parts of earliest genetic material may have come from the stars

Article wrote:

Scientists have confirmed for the first time that an important component of early genetic material which has been found in meteorite fragments is extraterrestrial in origin, in a paper published on 15 June 2008.

The finding suggests that parts of the raw materials to make the first molecules of DNA and RNA may have come from the stars.

The scientists, from Europe and the USA, say that their research, published in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters, provides evidence that life’s raw materials came from sources beyond the Earth.

Genetic material from space rock
The materials they have found include the molecules uracil and xanthine, which are precursors to the molecules that make up DNA and RNA, and are known as nucleobases.

The team discovered the molecules in rock fragments of the Murchison meteorite, which crashed in Australia in 1969.

They tested the meteorite material to determine whether the molecules came from the solar system or were a result of contamination when the meteorite landed on Earth.

The analysis shows that the nucleobases contain a heavy form of carbon which could only have been formed in space. Materials formed on Earth consist of a lighter variety of carbon.

Lead author Dr Zita Martins, of the Department of Earth Science and Engineering at Imperial College London, says that the research may provide another piece of evidence explaining the evolution of early life. She says:

“We believe early life may have adopted nucleobases from meteoritic fragments for use in genetic coding which enabled them to pass on their successful features to subsequent generations.”

Between 3.8 to 4.5 billion years ago large numbers of rocks similar to the Murchison meteorite rained down on Earth at the time when primitive life was forming. The heavy bombardment would have dropped large amounts of meteorite material to the surface on planets like Earth and Mars.

Co-author Professor Mark Sephton, also of Imperial’s Department of Earth Science and Engineering, believes this research is an important step in understanding how early life might have evolved. He added:

“Because meteorites represent left over materials from the formation of the solar system, the key components for life -- including nucleobases -- could be widespread in the cosmos. As more and more of life’s raw materials are discovered in objects from space, the possibility of life springing forth wherever the right chemistry is present becomes more likely.”
Neat!

Link to paper, for those interested.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6951|Global Command
We are stardust.

The amount of water on the Earth is not finite.

Ice comments from space created the oceans.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7043|London, England
Yeah at the end of the day everything is made up of the same basic elements that are present through out the universe.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire
Does that make us aliens technically?
2tuff
Positive Karma Here!
+357|7198

Braddock wrote:

Does that make us aliens technically?
To someone/something, yes.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7050|IRELAND

gods out there shooting meteors at us with a sling shot.
Now it all makes sense.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6575|what

That's a shame because it was hoped life could have evolved without the DNA building blocks from an outside source. It would mean that life is able to form independently and we would have a greater chance of finding that life on other planets.

If a meteor is required to provide the nucleobases at a very specific point during evolution we may be a very rare form of intelligent life in the entire universe.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7097|Canberra, AUS
Don't be too surprised. Organic compounds like sugars, simple amino acids, turn up in meteorites all the time.

Interesting, though - never heard about DNA precursors being found on meteorites before.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland
Well no shit, if it didn't come from space where the hell did it come from?  This whole planet came from space, shit and they needed to prove that.  I am in the wrong line of work.

Scurries off to publish thesis that girls are not made of sugar and spice and everything nice.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland

ATG wrote:

We are stardust.

The amount of water on the Earth is not finite.

Ice comments from space created the oceans.
Don't you mean " Nice comments "
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6951|Global Command

Lotta_Drool wrote:

ATG wrote:

We are stardust.

The amount of water on the Earth is not finite.

Ice comments from space created the oceans.
Don't you mean " Nice comments "
lol

comets Spit.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6867|The Land of Scott Walker

Braddock wrote:

Does that make us aliens technically?
Well, we know women are for sure ...
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland

ATG wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

ATG wrote:

We are stardust.

The amount of water on the Earth is not finite.

Ice comments from space created the oceans.
Don't you mean " Nice comments "
lol

comets Spit.
That makes more better sense.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6992|Portland, OR, USA

TheAussieReaper wrote:

That's a shame because it was hoped life could have evolved without the DNA building blocks from an outside source. It would mean that life is able to form independently and we would have a greater chance of finding that life on other planets.

If a meteor is required to provide the nucleobases at a very specific point during evolution we may be a very rare form of intelligent life in the entire universe.
It can... in theory anyway.  Those meteorites had to come from somewhere where these DNA building blocks were synthesized, and life could have started here on earth in ways probably not too different from however the organic material ended up on those meteorites.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7194|PNW

TheAussieReaper wrote:

That's a shame because it was hoped life could have evolved without the DNA building blocks from an outside source. It would mean that life is able to form independently and we would have a greater chance of finding that life on other planets.

If a meteor is required to provide the nucleobases at a very specific point during evolution we may be a very rare form of intelligent life in the entire universe.
That doesn't necessarily mean that a planet must be smacked by such a meteor to sprout life, but in the mean time, I'll be waiting for our Zerg overminds to come back and claim us.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6575|what

My point is that we got "lucky" if it actually was a meteor that gave us what we needed in the next step of evolution (the really unlucky were the dinosaurs, they got the opposite).

But everything that has worked in our favour, Earths distance from the Sun, the ozone layer, a Lunar body to deflect most dangerous asteroids, the amount of water, the temperature, climate and now the genetic material was given help from a meteor. It just makes the life on Earth seem almost impossible to repeated in another solar system which would equal any form of life, let alone intelligence.

There may be billions of starts but only one may have all the dice land on 6's.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7194|PNW

TheAussieReaper wrote:

But everything that has worked in our favour[...]
That's like being on the road surrounded by cars zipping by at 150mph and, in the space of ten seconds, thinking to yourself: "golly, I'm sure lucky I haven't been hit yet."

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