CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6977
Saudi Arabia announces an increase in output, price of oil surges to $139.89. This is proof positive that we are fucked when it comes to oil. I'm quite confident it'll hit $200 within two years, as predicted by some analysts.

http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/0616/oil.html
topthrill05
Member
+125|7000|Rochester NY USA
I totally agree.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
wish I had a horse
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6960|Long Island, New York
Best time to go get a motorcycle would be now.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6944|...

I've converted my car to burn wood.

But honestly in some ways its good this lifestyle change is being thrust upon us. But sadly we won't be able to maintain this population level.
13rin
Member
+977|6901
I bought a harley nightster.  So much more fun than a car...  More people should ride.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland
It could hit $2000 for all I care.  There are too many better alternatives that can be put in place overnight.  Natural Gas for instance.  Cheaper, more abundant, doesn't need refined, many have it plumbed to their house, most gas stations already have it plumbed.......   And then there is alway Nuclear Power for electricity to power electric or compressed air vehicles.

The whole oil thing is blatantly a political sell out to the rich that use oil to keep their wealth and control over the world.

That's why voting for O'bama or McClain is dumbest thing anyone can do.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7071

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I bought a harley nightster.  So much more fun than a car...  More people should ride.
How much more fuel efficient are bikes compared to cars? Obviously I'm aware that there are some cars that are great and some bikes that do terribly, but what kind of MPG do you get out of it?

EDIT: Spit, I think you'd care for a lot more reasons than that people would stop driving were it $2k a barrel.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2008-06-16 08:22:47)

13rin
Member
+977|6901

ghettoperson wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I bought a harley nightster.  So much more fun than a car...  More people should ride.
How much more fuel efficient are bikes compared to cars? Obviously I'm aware that there are some cars that are great and some bikes that do terribly, but what kind of MPG do you get out of it?

EDIT: Spit, I think you'd care for a lot more reasons than that people would stop driving were it $2k a barrel.
I get 49 to the gallon.. And I get on it! I'd probably average closer to 55 if I didn't open it up after every light.
Plus she's pretty.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/DBBrinson/bike.jpg

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-06-16 08:34:17)

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7069
Meh. It's been said before. It keeps going up. How bout wait to make a post till oil goes down to below $100.
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6962|byah

DBBrinson1 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I bought a harley nightster.  So much more fun than a car...  More people should ride.
How much more fuel efficient are bikes compared to cars? Obviously I'm aware that there are some cars that are great and some bikes that do terribly, but what kind of MPG do you get out of it?

EDIT: Spit, I think you'd care for a lot more reasons than that people would stop driving were it $2k a barrel.
I get 49 to the gallon.. And I get on it! I'd probably average closer to 55 if I didn't open it up after every light.
Plus she's pretty.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/D … n/bike.jpg
Does it have a 4 gallon tank? I plan to get a motorcycle because its the easiest way to save fuel and its a great way to go to work or school. Also do things that cars cant do

Last edited by The#1Spot (2008-06-16 09:22:48)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7043|London, England

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Meh. It's been said before. It keeps going up. How bout wait to make a post till oil goes down to below $100.
I don't think it's ever going to go below $100
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
I dont think youre ever going to go below $100
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7043|London, England

God Save the Queen wrote:

I dont think youre ever going to go below $100
Damn straight
too_money2007
Member
+145|6730|Keller, Tx
I won't get a motorcycle because I don't trust Dallas drivers. I've heard of atleast 2-3 wrecks involving bikes in the last month, atleast one was fatal. Just not worth it.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7129|67.222.138.85

Lotta_Drool wrote:

It could hit $2000 for all I care.  There are too many better alternatives that can be put in place overnight.  Natural Gas for instance.  Cheaper, more abundant, doesn't need refined, many have it plumbed to their house, most gas stations already have it plumbed.......   And then there is alway Nuclear Power for electricity to power electric or compressed air vehicles.

The whole oil thing is blatantly a political sell out to the rich that use oil to keep their wealth and control over the world.

That's why voting for O'bama or McClain is dumbest thing anyone can do.
dude...lol

Electric vehicles are not ecnomically viable for comparable range performance. For that you need nice lithium ion batteries, and while those are far superior in every way, they are too hard to justify for anyone but an enthusiast. The lead acid batteries that are much much cheaper don't give a significant enough range for anything but daily tasks around the city. While that is a good step, you will be hard pressed to find people (particularly those without family) to buy a whole car that doesn't have enough range to get out of the city. Until car manufacturers start making electric cars again (they're just as much a part of the conspiracy, good luck) to drive prices down and increase infrastructure for them, the electric car is not for most people.

Compressed air? lol, seriously. They have the same problem with hydrogen vehicles, they can't get the compression high enough to make it viable. There is a much better chance going with electric vehicles, it's much more straight forward.

But you think the changes necessary to switch to nuclear power could happen overnight. Jesus...the magnitude of that miscalculation is astounding. You know better than that.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
they say even if we start drilling in ANWR today, the oil refined wouldnt make a difference for another 10 years and that the supply will only last about 25 years.  I could be mistaken. 


just a drop in a bucket.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7144|Eastern PA

DBBrinson1 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I bought a harley nightster.  So much more fun than a car...  More people should ride.
How much more fuel efficient are bikes compared to cars? Obviously I'm aware that there are some cars that are great and some bikes that do terribly, but what kind of MPG do you get out of it?

EDIT: Spit, I think you'd care for a lot more reasons than that people would stop driving were it $2k a barrel.
I get 49 to the gallon.. And I get on it! I'd probably average closer to 55 if I didn't open it up after every light.
Plus she's pretty.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/D … n/bike.jpg
Nice bike. Classic!
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7144|Eastern PA
Peel P50 ftw!
OrangeHound
Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...
+1,335|7071|Washington DC

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Meh. It's been said before. It keeps going up. How bout wait to make a post till oil goes down to below $100.
I don't think it's ever going to go below $100
Whenever prices rise quickly on commodities, real estate and stocks, it always feels like it will never stop - that's why so many amateur investors get burned when they buy at the top of markets - but, market economics take over at some point and prices fall.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7043|London, England
Bikes are great, unfortunately I have family and friends to consider and they're not exactly practical, no storage space and the helmet is something that either takes it all up, or something you have to carry with you.

Although at the moment I'm the one without a car (and sort of glad, fuck these prices) so I'm the one hitching the rides*


*Not really I just use Public Transport these days, Buses do the job and so do Trains
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6947|South Florida

Lotta_Drool wrote:

It could hit $2000 for all I care.  There are too many better alternatives that can be put in place overnight.  Natural Gas for instance.  Cheaper, more abundant, doesn't need refined, many have it plumbed to their house, most gas stations already have it plumbed.......   And then there is alway Nuclear Power for electricity to power electric or compressed air vehicles.

The whole oil thing is blatantly a political sell out to the rich that use oil to keep their wealth and control over the world.

That's why voting for O'bama or McClain is dumbest thing anyone can do.
Oh yeah, put in place over night. Smart statement.
15 more years! 15 more years!
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6788|California
I'll stop paying for gas to fill up my car, when the price of a barrel hits $300.
13rin
Member
+977|6901

The#1Spot wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:


How much more fuel efficient are bikes compared to cars? Obviously I'm aware that there are some cars that are great and some bikes that do terribly, but what kind of MPG do you get out of it?

EDIT: Spit, I think you'd care for a lot more reasons than that people would stop driving were it $2k a barrel.
I get 49 to the gallon.. And I get on it! I'd probably average closer to 55 if I didn't open it up after every light.
Plus she's pretty.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/D … n/bike.jpg
Does it have a 4 gallon tank? I plan to get a motorcycle because its the easiest way to save fuel and its a great way to go to work or school. Also do things that cars cant do
She has a 3.3 gallon tank.  Other bikes do come with larger tanks.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6993|USA

God Save the Queen wrote:

they say even if we start drilling in ANWR today, the oil refined wouldnt make a difference for another 10 years and that the supply will only last about 25 years.  I could be mistaken. 


just a drop in a bucket.
mostly correct, but partially wrong. 25 years used to supplement our current supply, and only about 1.5 years if we use only anwr oil.

edit: @ mekington: there are some bikes that go for only a few thousand dollars. if you're worried about family, at least in the future, its perfectly affordable to get a cheap honda or some such and a bike. that way you can bike when you're on your own to save money and hop in the accord when your girl's water breaks.

Last edited by Ender2309 (2008-06-16 11:20:32)

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