I don't know why you're stressing so much lowing, once the global credit crunch really starts to bite and there's no more money flying about they'll all be heading home under their own steam...you might even get rid of some Mexicans! I bumped into one of my Chinese friends yesterday, he's moving back to China...ominous!?lowing wrote:
Good stuff but if you guys don't have a problem...................."About eight million illegal immigrants reside in the European Union, according to the bloc's estimates. More than 200,000 were arrested in the first half of last year - but less than 90,000 were expelled."Braddock wrote:
As Cam has already stated lowing, positive stories about everything being okay don't make for good headlines or book sales figures these days. There was a best-seller last year called "European Immigration: Everything's Okay, Don't Worry About It" but I can't seem to find a link for it anywhere; that one flew off the shelves when it came out. The reason I don't pay too much head to the upper end of the alarmist figures and statistics is because affluence always levels off fertility rates and that's never taken into account in statistics that are seeking to back up a negative or alarmist argument.lowing wrote:
Cam, again I cite articles and figures that go against what you say..............So please post some articles that discount what has already been written, several times...........I am sorry but if there is any bullshit here, it is you trying to tell me that you are right because, well, you said so..You know that does not carry much wieght here Cam, so, screw you and your opinion, post something that supports your stance that immigration into Europe, is not a problem now, nor will it in the forseeable future.......I can post link after link after link supporting that view point, how about you do the same
What does your age have to do with it? Simple, older people have been around the block a lot longer than you have, Cam, they have seen alot more and a lot more changes.
Braddock other than your word, I invite you to do the same thing, post some articles discrediting what has been written about immigration into Europe from the ME. and stop with the I live here so I know bullshit.
However, here is some good news for you to get your teeth into.
what gives??
You didn't answer my question, you guys are maintaining there no immigration problems in Europe, you have it under control.Braddock wrote:
I don't know why you're stressing so much lowing, once the global credit crunch really starts to bite and there's no more money flying about they'll all be heading home under their own steam...you might even get rid of some Mexicans! I bumped into one of my Chinese friends yesterday, he's moving back to China...ominous!?lowing wrote:
Good stuff but if you guys don't have a problem...................."About eight million illegal immigrants reside in the European Union, according to the bloc's estimates. More than 200,000 were arrested in the first half of last year - but less than 90,000 were expelled."Braddock wrote:
As Cam has already stated lowing, positive stories about everything being okay don't make for good headlines or book sales figures these days. There was a best-seller last year called "European Immigration: Everything's Okay, Don't Worry About It" but I can't seem to find a link for it anywhere; that one flew off the shelves when it came out. The reason I don't pay too much head to the upper end of the alarmist figures and statistics is because affluence always levels off fertility rates and that's never taken into account in statistics that are seeking to back up a negative or alarmist argument.
However, here is some good news for you to get your teeth into.
what gives??
Yet everything you post suggests, there is an immigration problem and you are TRYING to get it under control....
Now, you have 8 million illegals alone in Europe, and you have expelled less than 90,000 of them...This goes against what you and Cam say that illegals are promptly deported, what did Cam say, they are "repatrioted".....SO again I ask ....what gives?
By the way, I am not "stressing" over any of this shit, I can promise you that..
Europes total population is 653 million.lowing wrote:
You didn't answer my question, you guys are maintaining there no immigration problems in Europe, you have it under control.Braddock wrote:
I don't know why you're stressing so much lowing, once the global credit crunch really starts to bite and there's no more money flying about they'll all be heading home under their own steam...you might even get rid of some Mexicans! I bumped into one of my Chinese friends yesterday, he's moving back to China...ominous!?lowing wrote:
Good stuff but if you guys don't have a problem...................."About eight million illegal immigrants reside in the European Union, according to the bloc's estimates. More than 200,000 were arrested in the first half of last year - but less than 90,000 were expelled."
what gives??
Yet everything you post suggests, there is an immigration problem and you are TRYING to get it under control....
Now, you have 8 million illegals alone in Europe, and you have expelled less than 90,000 of them...This goes against what you and Cam say that illegals are promptly deported, what did Cam say, they are "repatrioted".....SO again I ask ....what gives?
By the way, I am not "stressing" over any of this shit, I can promise you that..
8 Million muslims of which 2.2 million are in Albania, 1.5 million are in Bosnia (already largely muslim countires) and 5 million in france.
= 1.2% of Europe population is muslim.
OH NOES THEY ARE TAKING OVER!!! 1.2% ITS GOING TO BE A SLAUGHTER! IM GOING TO BE FORCED TO COVERT! HALP ME JESUS pL0X!!!
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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Hey Method??................The 8 million figure was illegal aliens alone, it is not total Islamic populationm3thod wrote:
Europes total population is 653 million.lowing wrote:
You didn't answer my question, you guys are maintaining there no immigration problems in Europe, you have it under control.Braddock wrote:
I don't know why you're stressing so much lowing, once the global credit crunch really starts to bite and there's no more money flying about they'll all be heading home under their own steam...you might even get rid of some Mexicans! I bumped into one of my Chinese friends yesterday, he's moving back to China...ominous!?
Yet everything you post suggests, there is an immigration problem and you are TRYING to get it under control....
Now, you have 8 million illegals alone in Europe, and you have expelled less than 90,000 of them...This goes against what you and Cam say that illegals are promptly deported, what did Cam say, they are "repatrioted".....SO again I ask ....what gives?
By the way, I am not "stressing" over any of this shit, I can promise you that..
8 Million muslims of which 2.2 million are in Albania, 1.5 million are in Bosnia (already largely muslim countires) and 5 million in france.
= 1.2% of Europe population is muslim.
OH NOES THEY ARE TAKING OVER!!! 1.2% ITS GOING TO BE A SLAUGHTER! IM GOING TO BE FORCED TO COVERT! HALP ME JESUS pL0X!!!
Hey lowing: how are these people supposed to feed themselves if they can't work and they're detained in centres like Mosney just north of Dublin to rot away?lowing wrote:
Hey Method??................The 8 million figure was illegal aliens alone, it is not total Islamic population
PS Europe, like the US, needs immigration to sustain economic growth owing to decreased fertility levels in developed economies...
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8 million illegal aliens in total or 8 million illegal alien muslims.lowing wrote:
Hey Method??................The 8 million figure was illegal aliens alone, it is not total Islamic populationm3thod wrote:
Europes total population is 653 million.lowing wrote:
You didn't answer my question, you guys are maintaining there no immigration problems in Europe, you have it under control.
Yet everything you post suggests, there is an immigration problem and you are TRYING to get it under control....
Now, you have 8 million illegals alone in Europe, and you have expelled less than 90,000 of them...This goes against what you and Cam say that illegals are promptly deported, what did Cam say, they are "repatrioted".....SO again I ask ....what gives?
By the way, I am not "stressing" over any of this shit, I can promise you that..
8 Million muslims of which 2.2 million are in Albania, 1.5 million are in Bosnia (already largely muslim countires) and 5 million in france.
= 1.2% of Europe population is muslim.
OH NOES THEY ARE TAKING OVER!!! 1.2% ITS GOING TO BE A SLAUGHTER! IM GOING TO BE FORCED TO COVERT! HALP ME JESUS pL0X!!!
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
The fact that the immigration situation, just as it is in the US, is a symbiotic one would suggest that it is not in fact a 'problem', rather a necessary factor in maintaining our various industries. It's the chancers who refuse to work or have criminal backgrounds that can fuck off back where they came from.CameronPoe wrote:
Hey lowing: how are these people supposed to feed themselves if they can't work and they're detained in centres like Mosney just north of Dublin to rot away?lowing wrote:
Hey Method??................The 8 million figure was illegal aliens alone, it is not total Islamic population
PS Europe, like the US, needs immigration to sustain economic growth owing to decreased fertility levels in developed economies...
Lowing, who is going to clean the toilets or work the fields if we deport these immigrants back to their country of origin en masse?
How these people are supposed to feed themselves is not part of this discussion, never has been.CameronPoe wrote:
Hey lowing: how are these people supposed to feed themselves if they can't work and they're detained in centres like Mosney just north of Dublin to rot away?lowing wrote:
Hey Method??................The 8 million figure was illegal aliens alone, it is not total Islamic population
PS Europe, like the US, needs immigration to sustain economic growth owing to decreased fertility levels in developed economies...
From what I gather, European cites are pretty crowded as it is, and your social services are being burdoned, because of it. tell me how illegal immigration is needed.
Anyway, back to this repatrioting that you were so proud of...........it looks like 90,000 are gone and only 7,910,000 to go. Doesn't sound like Europe is doing a whole hell of a lot of deporting by those numbers, not as much as you seem to believe.
The US nor Europe it would seem, needs immigration as it is. Illegal immigration is costing us a fortune. Also I do not want any immigration that does not conform to the status quo. I do not want people coming here expecting and demanding special rights and previedges or accomadations.Braddock wrote:
The fact that the immigration situation, just as it is in the US, is a symbiotic one would suggest that it is not in fact a 'problem', rather a necessary factor in maintaining our various industries. It's the chancers who refuse to work or have criminal backgrounds that can fuck off back where they came from.CameronPoe wrote:
Hey lowing: how are these people supposed to feed themselves if they can't work and they're detained in centres like Mosney just north of Dublin to rot away?lowing wrote:
Hey Method??................The 8 million figure was illegal aliens alone, it is not total Islamic population
PS Europe, like the US, needs immigration to sustain economic growth owing to decreased fertility levels in developed economies...
Lowing, who is going to clean the toilets or work the fields if we deport these immigrants back to their country of origin en masse?
Who is going ro clean the toilets or work the fields? Anyone other than criminals..... How much will the job pay?? Whatever the market will bare..Outside of union influence of course, since unions artifically raise the value of such jobs and force employers to either move, or hire illegals.