BF2S Forums The Age Old Debate...Homosexuality, Is It A Lifestyle Choice?

I almost came out once, but then i said to myself: "How could i come out? I never even went in."

Serious: I think its O.K to be gay, and that is indeed the person's choice. Although, its a choice they make sub-conciously, the mind chooses and decides certain things for itself, unlike you or me choosing what to have for dinner.

Braddock wrote:

SEREVENT wrote:

I almost came out once, but then i said to myself: "How could i come out? I never even went in."

Serious: I think its O.K to be gay, and that is indeed the person's choice. Although, its a choice they make sub-conciously, the mind chooses and decides certain things for itself, unlike you or me choosing what to have for dinner.

The report would suggest otherwise my friend. It would appear there is a fundamental difference in the brain activity of homosexuals for both sexes. The study seems to indicate that homosexual brain patterns have more in common with brain patterns of the opposite sex than those of the homosexual's own sex...shall we just ignore the study?

Also, if you believe it is a choice that would suggest you agree with deviancy, because in your world there is only one type of sexuality that actually exists, that being heterosexuality, and a gay person chooses to deviate from this sexuality.

k. I really didn't understand that

All i know is my brain tells me what to do and i do it.

I'm glad I wasn't born fruity.  I agree that there are genetic and hormonal issues with many gays.  But then there are just a lot of perverts, go to a gay pride parade. 

I foresee this argument turning into a " I have a pedophile gene I was born with, I had no choice but to screw 12 year olds ".  This is sad, because liberals do think this way, but we all make choices and choices are choices no matter what your DNA is.  Nobody is born with a cock in their mouth so I feel nobody is ACTUALLY Born gay.  Ultimately it is a choice.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

I was just making a joke. Mostly.

I don't think the "some animals are gay in nature" arguement is a very good one though. Like I said, dogs hump human legs all the time. I've seen my friends tiny female weiner dog try to hump her much larger male dog from behind. It's quite amusing to watch. Sometimes they just have a bone to burry and don't care which hole it goes in. Maybe you could show me something on exclusively gay animals in nature.

Mallard ducks have a huge amount of homosexuals, which is up to 19% of a given population.

And as for the dog 'example' or 'joke' or whatever, part of that is probably them declaring dominance on whoever they are humping.  Especially if they are neutered/spayed.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I'm glad I wasn't born fruity.  I agree that there are genetic and hormonal issues with many gays.  But then there are just a lot of perverts, go to a gay pride parade. 

I foresee this argument turning into a " I have a pedophile gene I was born with, I had no choice but to screw 12 year olds ".  This is sad, because liberals do think this way, but we all make choices and choices are choices no matter what your DNA is.  Nobody is born with a cock in their mouth so I feel nobody is ACTUALLY Born gay.  Ultimately it is a choice.

Are you comparing gays to pedophiles?  Do you really think that gay people like to go "hey mom I need to tell you that I like having a dick in my ass"?  Nobody would choose that.

Bertster7 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Nobody is born with a cock in their mouth so I feel nobody is ACTUALLY Born gay.

Yeah, but most girls are born with a face full of muff.....

Oh man...

sergeriver wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I'm glad I wasn't born fruity.  I agree that there are genetic and hormonal issues with many gays.  But then there are just a lot of perverts, go to a gay pride parade. 

I foresee this argument turning into a " I have a pedophile gene I was born with, I had no choice but to screw 12 year olds ".  This is sad, because liberals do think this way, but we all make choices and choices are choices no matter what your DNA is.  Nobody is born with a cock in their mouth so I feel nobody is ACTUALLY Born gay.  Ultimately it is a choice.

Are you comparing gays to pedophiles?  Do you really think that gay people like to go "hey mom I need to tell you that I like having a dick in my ass"?  Nobody would choose that.

You can't compare paedophilia with homosexuality because both homosexual and heterosexual paedophilia exist and both are considered illegal, immoral and just plain horrifically unnatural. A creepy old man fucking a 3 year old girl is just as terrible as a dirty old man fucking a 3 year old boy and both those kind of things happen.

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OrangeHound wrote:

Braddock wrote:

.... considered illegal, immoral and just plain horrifically unnatural.

Hmmm ... the same things were thought of about homosexuality just a couple of generations ago ... I wonder if our society will be accepting pedophilia as just a natural form of sexuality by, say 2050?

I doubt it, since sex with a minor is exploitative.  A three year old does not have the decision making ability to agree to sex with anyone.

Two adults in a consensual relationship (either heterosexual or homosexual) is very different from the exploitation of children incapable of understanding what is happening.

SenorToenails wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Braddock wrote:

.... considered illegal, immoral and just plain horrifically unnatural.

Hmmm ... the same things were thought of about homosexuality just a couple of generations ago ... I wonder if our society will be accepting pedophilia as just a natural form of sexuality by, say 2050?

I doubt it, since sex with a minor is exploitative.  A three year old does not have the decision making ability to agree to sex with anyone.

Two adults in a consensual relationship (either heterosexual or homosexual) is very different from the exploitation of children incapable of understanding what is happening.

While I would agree about pre-puberty children,  the definition of a minor is really a modern thought.  Historically, puberty was seen as the age at which people could be married and engage in sexual relationships.

Everyone gets all upset when the Texas Mormons were marrying off 13 and 14 year olds, but that is not an uncommon practice in the light of history (and even some other cultures today).

I'm not advocating the practice.  I'm just wondering how much our society is willing to lower its sexual boundaries.

Braddock wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

I doubt it, since sex with a minor is exploitative.  A three year old does not have the decision making ability to agree to sex with anyone.

Two adults in a consensual relationship (either heterosexual or homosexual) is very different from the exploitation of children incapable of understanding what is happening.

While I would agree about pre-puberty children,  the definition of a minor is really a modern thought.  Historically, puberty was seen as the age at which people could be married and engage in sexual relationships.

Everyone gets all upset when the Texas Mormons were marrying off 13 and 14 year olds, but that is not an uncommon practice in the light of history (and even some other cultures today).

I'm not advocating the practice.  I'm just wondering how much our society is willing to lower its sexual boundaries.

Read my above post...responsible parents will not vote for or support a Government proposing the lowering of the age of consent to a ridiculously low age.

No.  That would not happen in today's culture.  But, if I lived 40-50 years ago and someone wrote "responsible citizens of the United Sates will not vote for or support a Government proposing homosexuality or homosexual marriages", I would have said it won't happen.

The sexual boundaries in the United States have been loosening for decades ... I really don't know where it will stop.

I am really curious why the United States has put in laws protecting sexual relations of post-puberty boys and girls when it has been a custom as far back as history is recorded.  Seriously, there is a tremendous amount of sex that happens beginning at those early years, but the government has put in place all these laws to restrict and punish people doing "natural" activity.

So, since homosexuality is such a "natural" behavior that has been unfairly restricted by "ignorant" laws, then why would not the protections of teenagers also be lifted as Americans become more "enlightened".



(Caveat - again, I'm not supporting anything here, I'm just pointing out the similarities.)

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

how old was alia when mohammed consecrated the marriage?  he married her at what like age 6?  how old was he?  these days that would be considered peodiphile but back then this is to be considered normal practice?  i guess back then women were treated like breeding machines anyway.  if you had too many girls, you'd leave them on a mountaintop to avoid the dowry payments.  what a f'ed up world we came from and some still live in

In Islam you can't consecrate until she's menstruating. It used to be the same in Judaism. Jesus' mum was probably 13 when she got porked.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-06-17 14:18:55)

I wonder do people realise that in ancient Greece women were viewed merely as procreation machines, all males had a wife for babies and a young male lover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual … ent_Greece

Same in Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual … cient_Rome

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-06-17 14:30:33)

CameronPoe wrote:

I wonder do people realise that in ancient Greece women were viewed merely as procreation machines, all males had a wife for babies and a young male lover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual … ent_Greece

Same in Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual … cient_Rome

Not in Sparta