BF2S Forums Corvette beats GTR time on Nürburgring

Last edited by Ryan (2008-06-28 06:45:27)

GM plans to release the full in-car video of the record breaking lap in the coming week.

Last edited by Eye-GiZzLe (2008-06-28 08:00:21)

jsnipy wrote:

very nice, whats the price difference between the two?

Last edited by Eye-GiZzLe (2008-06-28 08:05:19)

jsnipy wrote:

very nice, whats the price difference between the two?

MotorTrend wrote:

At an expected price of near $100,000, the 2009 ZR1 will be the least expensive car with standard CCM brakes

Edmunds wrote:

Beyond all this, Nissan promises the GT-R's price will come in at just under $80,000 when it goes on sale early next year (2008).

Last edited by Ryan (2008-06-28 08:06:25)

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The#1Spot wrote:

So this is the best that GM can do? Pretty low standards if you ask me. Losing to a prototype gtr vspec. Nissan is trying a sub 7:20 time with the V-Spec.

TC.Troy wrote:

First, anyone that thinks GM is gonna lay down and let Nissan run over them in this car category is nuts.  Period. 
The ZR-1 is a mean peice of equipment.  Period.
For the money, you cannot beat it imo.  All things considered.
And I'm not really that much of a vette fan tbh.

TC.Troy wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

TC.Troy wrote:

First, anyone that thinks GM is gonna lay down and let Nissan run over them in this car category is nuts.  Period. 
The ZR-1 is a mean peice of equipment.  Period.
For the money, you cannot beat it imo.  All things considered.
And I'm not really that much of a vette fan tbh.

No offence, but clearly you can beat it.

GTR is going be cheaper.

If you wanna use lap times, the GTR V spec will most likely beat the ZR1 around the track

i repeat again, the GTR & V are going to be cheaper


If you want to use real world things - GTR will have a higher MPG, it will have lower emissions, it will be more reliable.

Obv, in the USA servicing one will be costly, but i think the reliability will outweigh that.

Yeah no offense taken hehe
But umm...dont tell me things such as "going to be" and "will have" and "I think" when refferencing a glorified prototype that isnt even on sale.
Point is, the vette (here in the US) will be a better car, it will hold its value and perhaps increase, the Nissan won't.  Take it from an import car owner living in the US (its a Honda) it is damned stupid expensive to even get a non-dealer shop to do anything to'em.
With that said.  The ZR-1 wont be terrible cheap to service either, given its engine configuration.  So thats a no issue between the 2.
Reliablilty?
Yeah, Nissan are...very.  Tweak out an engine as hard as that GTR, or the V-spec either one, and it will thrash itself to death far, far faster than the slower spinning (and HUGE torgue producing) V8.
As far as fuel mileage is concerened, I'd be willing to bet, that given a PRODUCTION model of each car, you'll find the mpg figures arent all that different when driven with a sane foot (either car).

If the V-spec can come up with 3 second to re-take the vettes time, I'll be shocked.  But if it ever does, fear not, another ZR-1 will roll out and eat it up...just needs another tweak.  Thats all Nissan did to the GTR, to produce the V-spec.

Corvette...hands down.

The#1Spot wrote:

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TC.Troy wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

TC.Troy wrote:

Yeah no offense taken hehe
But umm...dont tell me things such as "going to be" and "will have" and "I think" when refferencing a glorified prototype that isnt even on sale.
Point is, the vette (here in the US) will be a better car, it will hold its value and perhaps increase, the Nissan won't.  Take it from an import car owner living in the US (its a Honda) it is damned stupid expensive to even get a non-dealer shop to do anything to'em.
With that said.  The ZR-1 wont be terrible cheap to service either, given its engine configuration.  So thats a no issue between the 2.
Reliablilty?
Yeah, Nissan are...very.  Tweak out an engine as hard as that GTR, or the V-spec either one, and it will thrash itself to death far, far faster than the slower spinning (and HUGE torgue producing) V8.
As far as fuel mileage is concerened, I'd be willing to bet, that given a PRODUCTION model of each car, you'll find the mpg figures arent all that different when driven with a sane foot (either car).

If the V-spec can come up with 3 second to re-take the vettes time, I'll be shocked.  But if it ever does, fear not, another ZR-1 will roll out and eat it up...just needs another tweak.  Thats all Nissan did to the GTR, to produce the V-spec.

Corvette...hands down.

Even with all the advantages on GM's side on paper its only doing 3 sec faster. The car should be in the 710-720 range. The ZR1 is the tweaked version of the Corvette. As the V-spec is the tweaked version of the nissan gtr. GM is already making the C7 concept and it looks like shit. They tried to include the Nissan GTR looks on the Corvette. I mean the C6 dosent looks good either but this one is probable the ugliest sports car of the 21st century.

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"Only" 3 seconds...
????

Have you any clue what 3 seconds looks like a race track of any kind?  Its like being in another friggin time zone for crying out loud.
And another one that throws prototypes around. 
Look...have you any clue how many vette prototypes have never made it to production?  Needless to mention the amount of shit they throw on to a test mule to make it look so oddly different as to completely throw off any press, or speculation.  Thus keeping the true body form a secret?
And "the looks of the GTR on the vette" ... to that, I lol...hard.
Look at Briklins, Pantera's, the Lambo Muira...many many cars have some of the design characteristics of the GTR.  But THEY were FIRST.  NOT Nissan.  So dont hand me the "copy cat" crap.
As far as the tweaked versions.  You couldnt be more wrong tbh.  No offense
We have Corvette, Corvette Zo6, and ZR-1
The GTR is a hot version of the Nissan Skyline Coupe (tweak #1 hehe).  The V-spec is a TWEAKED version of the GTR (tweak #2 hehehe)

My point(s) still stand.
Corvette...hands down.

And btw...When the GTR/V-spec finally hit US streets, I promise you they will sell for huge amounts over estimated or declared factory retail price.
From that point forth, they will depreciate and evntually become worthless almost, while the vette in my garage will CONTINUE to GAIN in resale value.

gimme a break...

while the vette in my garage will CONTINUE to GAIN in resale value.

TC.Troy wrote:

@ Bell:
I agree ( mostly) but we are talking about a ZR-1 in this deal.  Not a vette, or a Z06.  The ZR-1 will be limited production and have many very unique qualities that the other vettes dont have.  Nor will the GTR/V-spec (in the US market).

And your making 30k mark-up on R8's simply proves my point on the GTR in fact not being any cheaper than the ZR-1.  There will be major over invoice mark-up on the GTR, as well as the ZR-1 for that matter.  Still, the rice burner wont be significantly cheaper, if at all...imho.