morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

@morbesso666:

Wow easy there defend-Israeli-rights cowboy.

I don't if you noticed but your wild accusations and extremely simplified generalisations is getting you cornered and is not bringing you lots of sympathy here. While you, like allot of other members here, are not native English, try to understand that when you do not nuance your statements people will respond equally harsh.

It is not very astute to:
A) Make simple associations to point to very complex aetiology. For instance The Navy Cross is named after Christianity. (if you'd go a lot deeper in this statement you might actually end up with "some" truth, but this would bore everybody to dead and just is not worth discussing here)
B) Trying to defend your believes while calling everybody names.

If you want to discuss the Israel - Palestine problem, this is not the place to discuss it. Try the “not BF2” section. AND try to build up a descent discussion, with good arguments. Pointing with a big accusing finger to the USA, while they are probably to sole reason Israel is founded and still exists, is just plain stupid.

End of comment (and hopefully end of topic)

Cheers,
R
No man.
I'm not like you the stupid idiots that talk about their troops die and talk how courageous they are.
I see servers that nmaes theirselves "The Fallujah's Dukes", and "Coca Cola, sponsors the war in iraq 2003", seeing in other forums how americans talk about this like it was a game and laughing about this, seeing them comparing a PC game to the war!
The reason I brought up the conflict, is, if you'll bother reading the comments, because someone said, with absolutely NO relation to the topic, saying:

armin wrote:

lol, ur pretty new to the game i can see...


Israel needs YOU? for what? commiting genocide against the Palestinians?
Yeah, so u blaming me. But no, you're not against Israel. Whateva

EDIT: BTW, saying it has nothing to do with religion,
Check this out:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/index/banner1.jpg
And this out:
http://images.bf2s.com/resources/graphi … 021403.gif

BTW to all who are interested knowing, I made it to 100 both in MEC and USMC.

Last edited by morbesso666 (2006-01-19 01:24:30)

pennangton
From Israel with love
+7|7159|Israel

morbesso666 wrote:

you think you're cool
He doesn't think hes coo.. your just retarded cus he told you the answer.
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|7146|SPARTA
oh my god, this thread is still on! i thought everybody reading it must have died from stupidity. this makes my brain wanna pop out of my head, argh!!!
morbesso666, when ur really serious with all that and ur really from israel and a jew, then, sorry for becoming inobjective, callin u stupid is a insult to all stupid people so the only thing i can say is that ur bringing shame on all what was achieved for the jewish peolple and israel. u did no good with all that for ur country for which thousands have bled in half a dozen wars, so that u are safe and secure now and can feast in ur hybris in an inet-forum.
shame on u!
aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7216

morbesso666 wrote:

Hmmm...
Lets not talk about you on europe 60 years ago.
Killing the germans and slaughtering every country that was in your way.
We took over these territories in a war, it was Jordan's.
We're too compasionists, a people who isn't Jewish would've killed all the palestinians long ago.
What country would permit terrorists to suicide on them and kill 1000 civilians of them in four years???
No country. Only the stupid Jewish people with the big heart, don't get that we're infrenting against the most cruel enemy we ever had.
We have all the power to just make the plestinians disappear running from here. They should say thank you.
Actually it was Germany that invaded other countries.  The rise of the Nazi party led to invading Poland and war.  Are you saying that Israel taking other territories in a war is a good thing because that's precisely what the Nazis did.

I can see the compassion you talk about flowing from your mouth.  Is this the same compassion that sends helicopter gunships, tanks and bulldozers into refugee camps?
ownership10
Member
+9|7156
morbesso666 wtf is your problem...if u hadn't noticed, the US is one of the major reasons Israel became recognized as a sovergin nation and we r one of your biggest allies. why would you badmouth one of the only reasons the rest of the middle east didnt run you off the map yet.  ps look at your military tech.  it is all recycled american equipment.  anyway who cares if the navy cross started as a religious symbol.  does that mean the gold silver and bronze stars are religious because of the Star of David, no.  take your over zealous fundamentalism to one of the many terriost web sites you more than likely frequent.

and ps
God bless Americia and God bless our Troops!

Last edited by ownership10 (2006-01-19 06:44:02)

Cybargs
Moderated
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morbesso666 wrote:

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

@morbesso666:

Wow easy there defend-Israeli-rights cowboy.

I don't if you noticed but your wild accusations and extremely simplified generalisations is getting you cornered and is not bringing you lots of sympathy here. While you, like allot of other members here, are not native English, try to understand that when you do not nuance your statements people will respond equally harsh.

It is not very astute to:
A) Make simple associations to point to very complex aetiology. For instance The Navy Cross is named after Christianity. (if you'd go a lot deeper in this statement you might actually end up with "some" truth, but this would bore everybody to dead and just is not worth discussing here)
B) Trying to defend your believes while calling everybody names.

If you want to discuss the Israel - Palestine problem, this is not the place to discuss it. Try the “not BF2” section. AND try to build up a descent discussion, with good arguments. Pointing with a big accusing finger to the USA, while they are probably to sole reason Israel is founded and still exists, is just plain stupid.

End of comment (and hopefully end of topic)

Cheers,
R
No man.
I'm not like you the stupid idiots that talk about their troops die and talk how courageous they are.
I see servers that nmaes theirselves "The Fallujah's Dukes", and "Coca Cola, sponsors the war in iraq 2003", seeing in other forums how americans talk about this like it was a game and laughing about this, seeing them comparing a PC game to the war!
The reason I brought up the conflict, is, if you'll bother reading the comments, because someone said, with absolutely NO relation to the topic, saying:

armin wrote:

lol, ur pretty new to the game i can see...


Israel needs YOU? for what? commiting genocide against the Palestinians?
Yeah, so u blaming me. But no, you're not against Israel. Whateva

EDIT: BTW, saying it has nothing to do with religion,
Check this out:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/index/banner1.jpg
And this out:
http://images.bf2s.com/resources/graphi … 021403.gif

BTW to all who are interested knowing, I made it to 100 both in MEC and USMC.
yeah about my sig... u got a problem? heard of military jokes and humor? i got a ton of those funny military pics, so what? and read where ppl are from b4 u call them: nazi's, american wankers etc etc.

about the german war decorations... they were the best decorations in ww2, so what if they were nazi? well most german soldiers werent nazis and forced into the war, if they dont join, they die. and this thread is closed. hoped i was a mod... and use the debate and serious talk

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morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

aardfrith wrote:

morbesso666 wrote:

Hmmm...
Lets not talk about you on europe 60 years ago.
Killing the germans and slaughtering every country that was in your way.
We took over these territories in a war, it was Jordan's.
We're too compasionists, a people who isn't Jewish would've killed all the palestinians long ago.
What country would permit terrorists to suicide on them and kill 1000 civilians of them in four years???
No country. Only the stupid Jewish people with the big heart, don't get that we're infrenting against the most cruel enemy we ever had.
We have all the power to just make the plestinians disappear running from here. They should say thank you.
Actually it was Germany that invaded other countries.  The rise of the Nazi party led to invading Poland and war.  Are you saying that Israel taking other territories in a war is a good thing because that's precisely what the Nazis did.

I can see the compassion you talk about flowing from your mouth.  Is this the same compassion that sends helicopter gunships, tanks and bulldozers into refugee camps?
I know it was in order to give him false criticize  on his country from the false criticization he gave on mine.
morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel
Military jokes... oh my god I got so much pitty on the soldiers fighting so that you can compare them to a game and make military jokes as you said.
An Israeli reporter went to Iraq to see what the civilians think of civilian troops.
After the patrols, they went to play Halo combat evolved. I was so shocked!
If the WW2 generation was the best as you say, well you guys are the worst.

And about everybody hating Israel you just proved my point hammering me for what I say objectively and moderately and not hammering the stupid Bosnian that wishes iran nukes tel aviv.
This just proves my point. I don't need to prove it to myself, I've been in USA and I saw all the antisemitism in there, it's infinite.
Europe, USA. It's full of it and you can deny it to yourselves but if you'll open your eyes you'd see that.
morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

aardfrith wrote:

morbesso666 wrote:

Hmmm...
Lets not talk about you on europe 60 years ago.
Killing the germans and slaughtering every country that was in your way.
We took over these territories in a war, it was Jordan's.
We're too compasionists, a people who isn't Jewish would've killed all the palestinians long ago.
What country would permit terrorists to suicide on them and kill 1000 civilians of them in four years???
No country. Only the stupid Jewish people with the big heart, don't get that we're infrenting against the most cruel enemy we ever had.
We have all the power to just make the plestinians disappear running from here. They should say thank you.
Actually it was Germany that invaded other countries.  The rise of the Nazi party led to invading Poland and war.  Are you saying that Israel taking other territories in a war is a good thing because that's precisely what the Nazis did.

I can see the compassion you talk about flowing from your mouth.  Is this the same compassion that sends helicopter gunships, tanks and bulldozers into refugee camps?
Helicopter gunships only for support when troops get a wanted terrorist.
What does it have to do with compassion??? We've been using it for support against terrorists, not civilians. It's not US Army here. As I said million times in this topic, they use civilians as human shields, so what, we won't act, let them suicide bomb and fire mortars on us and shut up???
They are the ones who use the local population as an advantage over us, since if we bomb one house all the world will finish us. But we don't and the world still finishes on us!!! Our stupid heads of the country prefer that the world would criticize us than saving our lives!!! If we would've acted like US Army in Iraq the killing of Israeli people would've been over.
We havn't use tanks, stop making up stuff.
Bulldozers, to demolish houses of terrorists. The ones that are inside that house and asked to leave. The terrorists wouldn't let the people in the house out since we might just feel pitty for them (although we're ordered to demolish the house) and send troops in.
If they don't exit the house we'll bring the wall on them, there isn't no reason we won't.
US_JackHammer
Member
+1|7150

morbesso666 wrote:

I've been in USA and I saw all the antisemitism in there, it's infinite.
Europe, USA. It's full of it and you can deny it to yourselves but if you'll open your eyes you'd see that.
Lmfao.. Im sure we are full of it. we randomly recuit thousands of students to send and suicide bomb all those filthy midle east countries. (incase your too dumb to understand this, its sarcasm. I am infact referring to the fact that all the terrorists that cause so much fear and destruction come from the middle east countries. There whole purpose for doing this is causing fear in the westerners. Fear leads to hatred, hatred leads to the fact that a lot of people start to categorize all middle easterners in the same group.)

Morbesso, just stop posting here, infact just stop visiting here. The words that come from you tounge are not only apallingly disrespectul, but are also utter bullshit. Im english and have lived in America for the last 2 years, while I think the administration of America is utterly retarded, I still have the uttermost respect  for the American troops, And I support, and feel sorry for them having to spend all there time, and risk there lives fighting in such an area.

So politely Ill end by saying Fuck Off Bitch
morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel
Stupid asshole.
I hope they'll suicide on you there in US, too.
I wasn't talking about the present conflict here I was talking generally.
It is there, if you can't see it I'm sorry for you.
=ST6=SewerMaster
AK Whore
+152|7219|Barrington, RI

US_JackHammer wrote:

Fear leads to hatred, hatred leads to the fact that a lot of people start to categorize all middle easterners in the same group.)
I thought fear and hatred led to the Dark Side of the Force?
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|7146|SPARTA

=ST6=SewerMaster wrote:

US_JackHammer wrote:

Fear leads to hatred, hatred leads to the fact that a lot of people start to categorize all middle easterners in the same group.)
I thought fear and hatred led to the Dark Side of the Force?
Yes, the middle east
hanny76
Member
+1|7123
1.  ignorance is bliss?? morbesso666 it's people like you that really have no clue about anything. you state propaganda facts that come from somebody that has hate in there pockets. yes i said pockets but people like you would donate to some lunatics terrorist fund stop posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2. yes i think we should pull out of iraq!!!! why because 2,000 US soldiers died for some country that ain't civilized enough for democracy
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7195|PNW

Oh my goodness, I guess the IDF doesn't include religious-type symbols in their awards...but wait! What is this?

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/unnamednewbie13/gvura1.jpg

Oh...the gvura ribbon. I guess it goes along with the itur hagvura, a medal for bravery.

Aw, hell, Morbesso, that's nothing. You guys even have a Star of David on your national flag. However, do you see any Americans (yes, I'm claiming the term again) making a stink about that?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-01-19 12:44:05)

morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Oh my goodness, I guess the IDF doesn't include religious-type symbols in their awards...but what is this?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/un … gvura1.jpg

The itur hagvura, I hear. Medal for bravery.

Aw, hell, Morbesso, that's nothing. You guys even have a Star of David on your national flag. However, do you see any Americans (yes, I'm claiming the term again) making a stink about that?
Well, Israel is a Jewish country, and the formal religion is Judaism.
USA claims to have no formal religion. And that was my point in the first place but u didn't bother checking.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7195|PNW

Then stop whining about criss-crossing lines looking too much like symbols of Christianity.
morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Then stop whining about criss-crossing lines looking too much like symbols of Christianity.
Whining?
Again, if you'd bother checking my previous messages, I simply asked how come USA claims to have no formal religion, but have this cross and alot more. Well, how come?
This is a hypotetic question of course, because you just don't have any answer to this.
You just talking through the air without meaning anything.

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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Wait until a cross gets popped up on top of the White House and put into the US flag before you say that the US has a formal religion. Sheesh, if we did do you think there'd be Muslim chaplains in the military?

Nobody in the US breaks down your door, ties you up and drags you to a church for obligatory worship. Thus, the US has no formal religion, though the majority of people here are Christian.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." - US Constitution, Amend. 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression; Ratified 12/15/1791

I really hate to say it, but the sheer unpleasantness of dealing with folks like you is what drives so many into dislike of your people. You won't acknowledge your own faults, but are quick to throw blame every which way...and get amusingly upset when nobody jumps up and down to agree with you.

Such anger. Angry! ANGRY FOR COIN!

Coin bird is coming to steal your coins.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-01-19 13:14:37)

morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Wait until a cross gets popped up on top of the White House and put into the US flag before you say that the US has a formal religion. Sheesh, if we did do you think there'd be Muslim chaplains in the military?

Nobody in the US breaks down your door, ties you up and drags you to a church for obligatory worship. Thus, the US has no formal religion, though the majority of people here are Christian.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." - US Constitution, Amend. 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression; Ratified 12/15/1791

I really hate to say it, but the sheer unpleasantness of dealing with folks like you is what drives so many into dislike of your people. You won't acknowledge your own faults, but are quick to throw blame every which way...and get amusingly upset when nobody jumps up and down to agree with you.

Such anger. Angry! ANGRY FOR COIN!

Coin bird is coming to steal your coins.
1. What does having Muslim captains have to do with formal religion??? In IDF, Israel Defense Force, there are Druze soldiers, Circassian soldiers, Bedouin soldiers and more minorities.
So I reject this statement.
2. "Nobody in the US breaks down your door, ties you up and drags you to a church for obligatory worship. Thus, the US has no formal religion, though the majority of people here are Christian." - Well maybe that's your lesson for how the churches in europe drag people with "become christian or die" method, but a formal religion has nothing to do with dragging to be one of this religion. It's dumb that I'm even explaining this, it's obvious. We have 24% in Israel which aren't Jewish, actually converting into Judaism is the most difficult thing ever. You should know everything about it. So I totally reject this try to ram my country.
The facts spoken contradicts the fact that christiniaty isn't a formal religion.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7195|PNW

1. What exactly are you rejecting or complaining about?
2. I'm not slamming your country. I'm slamming you.

You really need to learn how to speak English. I can't make out 80% of what you're trying to say. You'd probably get better results if you used an online translator. Again, why exactly are you saying that Christianity is the officual US religion? We have none. Everybody in the US is free to choose whatever religion they want, or choose none; just as they're free to ignore religious symbols, or to publicly bellyache about how offensive they are to them.

However much I'd love to sit here all day and try to piece together your jumbled semantics, I have a shed that needs to be worked on.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-01-19 13:50:17)

morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

1. What exactly are you rejecting or complaining about?
2. I'm not slamming your country. I'm slamming you.

You really need to learn how to speak English. I can't make out 80% of what you're trying to say. You'd probably get better results if you used an online translator. Again, why exactly are you saying that Christianity is the officual US religion? We have none. Everybody in the US is free to choose whatever religion they want, or choose none; just as they're free to ignore religious symbols, or to publicly bellyache about how offensive they are to them.

However much I'd love to sit here all day and try to piece together your jumbled semantics, I have a shed that needs to be worked on.
What does having the right to choose religion, has to do with formal religion???
as I said 24% of the citizens of Israel are christians, muslims Druze and Carcassian.
Having freedom to choose a religion has nothing to do with the formal religion of the country.
USA has a formal religion although they claim they don't have one.
YYour conception of a formal religion is wrong or your just playing the idiot.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7140

morbesso666 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

1. What exactly are you rejecting or complaining about?
2. I'm not slamming your country. I'm slamming you.

You really need to learn how to speak English. I can't make out 80% of what you're trying to say. You'd probably get better results if you used an online translator. Again, why exactly are you saying that Christianity is the officual US religion? We have none. Everybody in the US is free to choose whatever religion they want, or choose none; just as they're free to ignore religious symbols, or to publicly bellyache about how offensive they are to them.

However much I'd love to sit here all day and try to piece together your jumbled semantics, I have a shed that needs to be worked on.
What does having the right to choose religion, has to do with formal religion???
as I said 24% of the citizens of Israel are christians, muslims Druze and Carcassian.
Having freedom to choose a religion has nothing to do with the formal religion of the country.
USA has a formal religion although they claim they don't have one.
YYour conception of a formal religion is wrong or your just playing the idiot.
Dude, a country w/ no formal religion and right to choose a religion does have a lot to do w/ each other, it gives religious freedom to anyone, they dont care if ur christian, muslim, jewish whatever. USA doesnt have a formal religion, its just the majority of the ppl believe in christianity, that doesnt make a country formally christian now does it? like the protestants and catholics, england in the past changed to the protestant church which they killed a lot of irhish ppl coz their catholic.
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morbesso666
Member
+0|7187|Givataim, Israel

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

morbesso666 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

1. What exactly are you rejecting or complaining about?
2. I'm not slamming your country. I'm slamming you.

You really need to learn how to speak English. I can't make out 80% of what you're trying to say. You'd probably get better results if you used an online translator. Again, why exactly are you saying that Christianity is the officual US religion? We have none. Everybody in the US is free to choose whatever religion they want, or choose none; just as they're free to ignore religious symbols, or to publicly bellyache about how offensive they are to them.

However much I'd love to sit here all day and try to piece together your jumbled semantics, I have a shed that needs to be worked on.
What does having the right to choose religion, has to do with formal religion???
as I said 24% of the citizens of Israel are christians, muslims Druze and Carcassian.
Having freedom to choose a religion has nothing to do with the formal religion of the country.
USA has a formal religion although they claim they don't have one.
YYour conception of a formal religion is wrong or your just playing the idiot.
Dude, a country w/ no formal religion and right to choose a religion does have a lot to do w/ each other, it gives religious freedom to anyone, they dont care if ur christian, muslim, jewish whatever. USA doesnt have a formal religion, its just the majority of the ppl believe in christianity, that doesnt make a country formally christian now does it? like the protestants and catholics, england in the past changed to the protestant church which they killed a lot of irhish ppl coz their catholic.
I didn't say ti does fucking read my comments.
I brang a DIFFERENT arguement about something in the US that generally makes the country with a formal religion.
I'm sick of repeating myself just READ MY POSTS!

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