VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California
I live in apartments controlled by my university, and our internet is provided through the university network.

Apparently one of the many many rules is that no wireless routers may be hooked up to the university network.
Well, not knowing that I have had one connected for the past 6 months.

Well about a week ago my internet connection stopped working. Couldn't connect to local campus network stuff, and couldn't connect to internet.

In dealing with tech support they sent a guy out who looked at some stuff, and left. He gave me a call about 1/2 hour later saying that he was still waiting for a call back... But I may have been disconnected for using a wireless router.

Now everything is back, but I cant hook up my PS3, and my laptop becomes almost worthless. Thing is I know plenty of people around here use wireless routers. I can see my neighbors have wireless connections, and other people have told me that as long as its a secure connection they won't really do anything.

Can they actually see from my network traffic that I have wireless hooked up? Is it possible that they actually did detect I was using a wireless router, or was there likely some other problem that has been fixed and tech support is just tacking that on since they were in my room and saw that I have one?

I really want wireless, and he said "wireless routers" not just routers... so I am thinking that if its not something they can really detect I will just say that I hooked the router back up, and though I had disabled the wireless?
This sucks
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California
yep. I was at 128 for the past few weeks, and broke that streak late last night... and now I get another one a few hours later. trends would say I will likely get another before the day is over, or early tomorrow.

(nice spam, and in the tech section too...definitely the appropriate place.)


Anyways.... I better have internet for PS3 by the time 2.40 is released.
GuliblGuy
Zulu son, what!?!
+79|7054|Anaheim, CA

They shouldn't be able to tell if you have wireless or not from network activity . . . plugged in or wireless, it's usnig the same ip assigned to your computer . . . the only way they could tell if there are wireless networks around would be to walk up and down the hall with a laptop scanning for wireless networks, and figuring out that you had one in your room due to the strength of the signal . . .
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California

GuliblGuy wrote:

They shouldn't be able to tell if you have wireless or not from network activity . . . plugged in or wireless, it's usnig the same ip assigned to your computer . . . the only way they could tell if there are wireless networks around would be to walk up and down the hall with a laptop scanning for wireless networks, and figuring out that you had one in your room due to the strength of the signal . . .
Yeah, this is definitely what I was thinking....

Now, can they tell if I was using a router at all? Yes right? I think I have maybe heard something about not having multiple computers... so maybe the tech guy miss spoke and I just cannot have a router at all? He did specifically say that wireless routers are not allowed to be hooked up to the campus network though...

I guess I should dig around for a rule book. I don't want to ask the tech guys directly though, because there is always some degree of freedom in ignorance.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California
Hey now! look at that, two more random karma from un-related posts. I am telling you guys, this is getting freaky.


On point:
So if I clone the MAC adress of my router to be the same as my desktop... Would they still be able to tell that I am behind a router?

Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2008-06-30 23:37:25)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6942|Maine
Just buy a wireless adapter for your desktop and bridge the connection.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California
yeah I was thinking about that... but I am really really broke right now. Actually I have an old Ethernet card that I could use to hook up PS3, then bridge those two... but then I would have to always have my computer on to have PS online, and more importantly I don't really have an open PCI slot...

I still don't have official word why it was shut off in the first place, the school tech guy just told me that it may have been they detected I was using a wireless router because wireless routers cannot be connected to the campus network.

He specifically said wireless, but other less official people have told me technically ANY router. Some one from school was saying that if they did it was most likely because part of the MAC adress of the router identifies it as a router (as in linksys uses MAC adresses that start off a certain way, same with other companies)

So I figured I could set my routers MAC adress to be the same as my desktops (the tech guy took a few notes, after looking at my laptop, my desktop and my router's config, so that probably was all the MAC addresses since that is what he was interested in before)
Turn off SSID broadcasting, and keep it encrypted... That way it should appear to just be my desktop in their network logs...

Anyone good at network stuff? This sound right?

IF it didn't work, I figure I could just say I disabled wireless on my router like they said...and tell them their IT guy only told me wireless routers were against the rules....


Ugg this places has too many damn rules, I cant even drink a beer with my front door open...
If it wasn't for the fact that its RIGHT across the street from campus, I get free utilities, internet with download speeds up to 3.5mb/s from external servers and a nice internal network I would be out of here.

Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2008-07-01 00:12:56)

GodFather
Blademaster's bottom bitch
+387|6489|Phoenix, AZ
No wireless networks?


Sucks for those hot shit college students with Macbook Airs....

hah.



~On topic

Steal one of your neighbors wireless (if its un-secure)


And thats a bullshit rule.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California

GodFather wrote:

No wireless networks?


Sucks for those hot shit college students with Macbook Airs....

hah.



~On topic

Steal one of your neighbors wireless (if its un-secure)


And thats a bullshit rule.
None are un-secure checked that when I moved in (I though wireless was included TBH)

It is a bullshit rule, but less so then some of the other we have...its a bit rediculous here...

Its actually not a rule from the apartments though its who ever we go through for internet or something like that...Something about our contract only being for one computer per connection/ the "security of routers" blah, blah.... I dunno to be exact but its kinda forced on our the guys who run our apartments so they force it onto us...

https://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q245/RedS13Coupe/8D.jpg
https://www.speedtest.net/result/290559336.png

That aint to shabby though...

Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2008-07-01 00:44:36)

VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California
I hooked it back up after cloning my desktops MAC and turning off SSID broadcast.....

I guess we will see, lol.

They never officially told me why so I still don't know that it is something they can detect... and I am not going to move my PS3 everytime I want to play online so yeah...it had to happen.

Wish me luck.
GodFather
Blademaster's bottom bitch
+387|6489|Phoenix, AZ

VicktorVauhn wrote:

[url]https://www.speedtest.net/result/290559336.png[/url]

That aint to shabby though...
I think I just shat myself.
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|6200|Somewhere out in Space

GodFather wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/290559336.png[/url]

That aint to shabby though...
I think I just shat myself.
ITT: s00p3r internets shared by a hundred frat boys.

Really, its not much better than mid-range DSL for the individual.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6661|Southern California

N00bkilla55404 wrote:

GodFather wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/290559336.png[/url]

That aint to shabby though...
I think I just shat myself.
ITT: s00p3r internets shared by a hundred frat boys.

Really, its not much better than mid-range DSL for the individual.
depends on what you are doing.

Gaming really isn't amazing... I still get little moments of lag and what not, I think it looses packages or what ever, very occationaly webpages don't load first try...

Downloads fucking fly...like I said the tops I have hit is 3.5mb/s, and usually as long as its a good enough server I download at over 1mb/s (thats external servers)

The most I ever got from my old Verizon fios was like 600-700 kb/s, so at least for this area its way way faster at uploads and downloads... but almost worse at online gaming.
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6268|Vortex Ring State

GodFather wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/290559336.png[/url]

That aint to shabby though...
I think I just shat myself.
They've got a OC line, no shit.

On topic, is your router is hooked directly up, they could use NMap of P0f's OS detection features to detect the make and model of your router.

Last edited by fermatx (2008-07-03 19:03:41)

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