BF2S Forums Young Irish Man Shot And Killed By US Cop

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yer right, Braddock, I do lean towards giving more latitude toward the cops, soldiers, Israel etc.........for one very good reason, because groups such as these are always supposed to play the game within a set of rules against people who do not, and are expected to win. the fact that they are also human and risk their lives so we all can sit back and critique them when we have never been in their situation tends to make me feel for their plight more than the people they are trying to interact with.

We expect cops to deal with the assholes and scumbags of the world daily so we do not have to. I am not inclined to judge instantly against them, but to instantly give them the benefit of the doubt. I think they wanna go home at night as well.

So a similar position to your attitudes on race?

Guilty until proven innocent...'nigger' until proven black person.

Nope, I feel the cop should be innocent until proven guilty.

Not really sure where that came from Braddock, but if you wanna address what I actually said feel free.

but to respond to this latest attack................I have no prejudices towards races, I have social prejudices only.............I see someone sagging, walking around town in dirty clothes wearing a wife beater, looking and acting like a fool, be them black or white,  I will pre-judge them, perhaps I will be wrong, this is my flaw....It has nothing to do with race.

Do you think that my attitude toward the dead criminals would be different if they were white??

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Andrew Hanlon 'shot seven times' by US police

"Relatives of an Irishman killed by police in the US state of Oregon viewed the body and said he was shot at least seven times. Andrew James Hanlon’s brother-in-law said the 20-year-old had two gunshot wounds to his left arm, three wounds to his abdomen, one on his thigh and one in the back of his shoulder. “It was definitely not grouped in one area,” Nathan Heise told the Statesman Journal.

Mr Hanlon was shot and killed late Monday evening by Officer Tony Gonzalez, who was responding to a reported burglary in progress. Mr Heise said Mr Hanlon would come banging on their door at times in the middle of the night, and they would let him in to sleep. The Heises speculated that Mr Hanlon took a wrong turn Monday night and started banging on doors on a different street, scaring residents. Someone called police, reporting a burglary, and one or more officers confronted Mr Hanlon, Mr Heise said. Mr Gonzalez is on administrative leave during the multi-agency investigation, which is routine."

I'm not going to speculate as to what exactly went on here because not all the facts are in yet but I remember times when friends of mine have drunkenly knocked on the wrong door on the way home...they've never been shot to death though!

NOTE: I acknowledge that maybe there is more to this story and am not presuming innocence or guilt for either party.

They probably mistaked him for Cameron and have read his posts on this forum.

2 weeks ago out in hillsboro -suburb of Portland- we had a guy get shot by a burgler when he entered his house.  Cops get a call by scared people and they are jumpy for a reason.  The cops just don't run around looking to kill people so it is wise not to make them fear you when they try to arrest you.  I am sure he did something that made the cop shoot him in fear and I could put 7 rounds in a person before they hit the ground easy so the number of shots mean nothing.

FEOS wrote:

Braddock wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Where did the article in the OP say he was unarmed? Has it been updated since it was posted originally?

No one is sure whether he was armed or not. Police have refused to confirm or deny if he was armed.

That's what I thought. Why then are people here saying he was unarmed?

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The Irish are bigger whiners than the Muslims.  Whaa fuckin whaaaaaa, the mean americans shot one of our drunken gingers....  booo fuckin hooooo  It wasn't his fault he was a worthless drunk stalking around people's houses at night pounding on doors and scaring the crap out of people.

give me a break, this isn't Ireland where if you wake up at 2am because of a noise and see someone staring in your window at you, you just figure it is old man McCrackin jerking off while watching your mum sleep and roll over and go back to banging your sheep.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-07-05 13:07:35)

usmarine2 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Oh for fuck sake. If he had a gun/weapon then that would've been the first line in the News Article, or that would've been the first thing the cops would've said. (I saw a post on here saying the cops wouldn't say whether he was armed or not) - Twats, any cop anyday of the week would instantly say he was armed (if he was)

I mean, let's stop tip toeing around the real deal here like a bunch of faggots now.


I wanted to say that.

If the cop can't handle a drunk guy, he's in the wrong business. I'm sure, no I KNOW that cops are trained to deal with situations/threats without resorting to their firearms straight away. If what this cop did, was normal practice, you'd get people being killed all the time. But you don't, because it isn't normal practice.

QFT

you two nutters understand the cops CANT say shit...not matter if he had a gun or a sling shot?

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-07-05 13:13:02)

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

But they always say whether the felon was armed or not and shit (especially if he actually was)

Braddock wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

But they always say whether the felon was armed or not and shit (especially if he actually was)

Exactly, usmarine is talking shit.

usmarine2 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

But they always say whether the felon was armed or not and shit (especially if he actually was)

Exactly, usmarine is talking shit.

ok...

oh, and why is this not an "international incident?"  Why no posts about this eh?

"An American man was stabbed to death in a fight with an off-duty policeman in the Czech capital early Wednesday, officials said."
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/01/ … tabbed.php

Braddock wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The Irish are bigger whiners than the Muslims.  Whaa fuckin whaaaaaa, the mean americans shot one of our drunken gingers....  booo fuckin hooooo  It wasn't his fault he was a worthless drunk stalking around people's houses at night pounding on doors and scaring the crap out of people.

give me a break, this isn't Ireland where if you wake up at 2am because of a noise and see someone staring in your window at you, you just figure it is old man McCrackin jerking off while watching your mum sleep and roll over and go back to banging your sheep.

A. He wasn't ginger.

B. I won't resort to stupid stereotypes about the Americans because many of the American people on here are very nice people...so in that case I won't say anything about Americans being obese, stupid, crass, ignorant, war mongers who have a severe chip on their shoulder because they are a race of mongrels who lack any culture of their own and spend all their time whining in the UN about other nations having weapons or throwing Israel dirty looks. Stereotypes are great aren't they?