Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7111|Tampa Bay Florida

deeznutz1245 wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Oh, please.  If we distributed food to prevent starvation it wouldn't exist.  A rise in prices just means some pork-pie rich kid won't get an extra hotdog.
Oh pleez my ass. I don't think you get it. Farmers can't raise poultry and cattle if the grain they fed them is being used for bio fuels and the hunt for manbearpig. That means your basic grains, meats and vegetables will raise in price as well as the cost of the fuel neded to put in trucks gas tanks to DISTRIBUTE it. Besides, food is distributed already to grocery stores.
What about distributing all the extra food we have here to starving countries? 

o wait, the fat people would get mad.  Seriously though.  Rationing the food would solve the problem.
Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6644|Brisneyland
Most people with any knowledge of biofuel know that they arent a particularly environmentally friendly answer to fuel problems. I dont think you can blame lefty/hippies etc on that one they would already agree with usmarine. Biofuels are a bandaid answer at best, and take away crops that could be used for food. Secondary items used for biofuels are a good idea ( sugar cane husks, leftover plant matter etc).
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7022|132 and Bush

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Damn straight.  Of course, it's easy to blame Al Gore for just about anything (just like blaming Muslims).
its easier to blame bush and the repubs also.  see, two can play this game.
Kinda funny when you put it like that. .. Considering no other administration has done more to help Africans.
He raised development assistance by 30% between 2001 and 2003, bringing aid to sub-Saharan Africa to the highest levels in American history. He also raised global HIV-AIDS funding by 36% his first year in office.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 83387.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases … 129-1.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases … 314-7.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President% … IDS_Relief
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Damn straight.  Of course, it's easy to blame Al Gore for just about anything (just like blaming Muslims).
its easier to blame bush and the repubs also.  see, two can play this game.
Kinda funny when you put it like that. .. Considering no other administration has done more to help Africans.
He raised development assistance by 30% between 2001 and 2003, bringing aid to sub-Saharan Africa to the highest levels in American history. He also raised global HIV-AIDS funding by 36% his first year in office.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 83387.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases … 129-1.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases … 314-7.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President% … IDS_Relief
ya well you know they wont listen to you about this anyway.  they only listen to al gore and john stewart.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249
Personally I despise Al Gore.  Jon Stewart's great, I don't watch him anywhere near enough.  I dislike Bush for a whole host of reasons that aren't solved by an increase in aid to Africa: especially when, IMHO, it's still not enough.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6826|North Carolina

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

and that movie was highly factual.
ok, enough.  I cant even talk to you anymore.  Are you kidding me?
I appreciate the favor, but I wasn't asking you to go away.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6826|North Carolina

usmarine2 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:


ok, enough.  I cant even talk to you anymore.  Are you kidding me?
^^.

Al Gore doesn't swallow his own bullshit, why should we?
Very true.  They also seem to admonish the working class, telling us we have to go green and conserve, yet I do not hear a fucking word out of gore's mouth when celebs like tiger woods and celine neon have their water bills made public, and they use more water themselves then most small cities ffs.
So, because they don't properly address how this applies to rich people, it makes the whole concept invalid?  It sounds like you're beginning to use so-called "liberal" logic.
Schittloaf
not fulla schit
+23|6324|MN
Global Climate Change Is A Scam!! 

while icebergs melt at the north pole more icebergs are forming at the south pole ... no ozone hole ... and by god there is a volcano erupting in Hawaii Right now
Schittloaf
not fulla schit
+23|6324|MN

pierro wrote:

schittloaf wrote:

Global Climate Change Is A Scam!!
Just like the idea that cigarettes cause cancer is made up? Because the same people that argued that are arguing global warming is a scam.
cigarettes dont cause cancer .. smoking them does . duh
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7093|UK
Guns do kill people. Rappers do.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6946|South Florida

Spearhead wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Oh, please.  If we distributed food to prevent starvation it wouldn't exist.  A rise in prices just means some pork-pie rich kid won't get an extra hotdog.
Oh pleez my ass. I don't think you get it. Farmers can't raise poultry and cattle if the grain they fed them is being used for bio fuels and the hunt for manbearpig. That means your basic grains, meats and vegetables will raise in price as well as the cost of the fuel neded to put in trucks gas tanks to DISTRIBUTE it. Besides, food is distributed already to grocery stores.
What about distributing all the extra food we have here to starving countries? 

o wait, the fat people would get mad.  Seriously though.  Rationing the food would solve the problem.
You did not just say what i think you said.

Ration the food?

Do you know how fucking un-american that is? Seriously, read what you just said.
15 more years! 15 more years!
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7053|949

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20070515.htm

Chomsky wrote:

Increasingly, biofuels are likely to "starve the poor" around the world, according to Runge and Senauer, as staples are converted to ethanol production for the privileged — cassava in sub-Saharan Africa, to take one ominous example. Meanwhile, in Southeast Asia, tropical forests are cleared and burned for oil palms destined for biofuel, and there are threatening environmental effects from input-rich production of corn-based ethanol in the United States as well.

The high price of tortillas and other, crueler vagaries of the international order illustrate the interconnectedness of events, from the Middle East to the Middle West, and the urgency of establishing trade based on true democratic agreements among people, and not interests whose principal hunger is for profit for corporate interests protected and subsidised by the state they largely dominate, whatever the human cost.
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501f … -poor.html
Summary:  Thanks to high oil prices and hefty subsidies, corn-based ethanol is now all the rage in the United States. But it takes so much supply to keep ethanol production going that the price of corn -- and those of other food staples -- is shooting up around the world. To stop this trend, and prevent even more people from going hungry, Washington must conserve more and diversify ethanol's production inputs.
I made this same kind of thread over a year ago, but no one really took interest.  I guess it's more relevant now.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7053|949

Mitch wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:


Oh pleez my ass. I don't think you get it. Farmers can't raise poultry and cattle if the grain they fed them is being used for bio fuels and the hunt for manbearpig. That means your basic grains, meats and vegetables will raise in price as well as the cost of the fuel neded to put in trucks gas tanks to DISTRIBUTE it. Besides, food is distributed already to grocery stores.
What about distributing all the extra food we have here to starving countries? 

o wait, the fat people would get mad.  Seriously though.  Rationing the food would solve the problem.
You did not just say what i think you said.

Ration the food?

Do you know how fucking un-american that is? Seriously, read what you just said.
Did you know that we already do that (and it isn't rationing)?  A few years ago Zimbabwe's government (Mugabe) turned down tons of GE food from USAID.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7053|949

Mitch wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Mitch wrote:


You did not just say what i think you said.

Ration the food?

Do you know how fucking un-american that is? Seriously, read what you just said.
Did you know that we already do that (and it isn't rationing)?  A few years ago Zimbabwe's government (Mugabe) turned down tons of GE food from USAID.
The day that the government tells me how much food i can eat will be the day Mitch blows up some type of Federal building.
Good thing you didn't live during WW2.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6946|South Florida

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Mitch wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


Did you know that we already do that (and it isn't rationing)?  A few years ago Zimbabwe's government (Mugabe) turned down tons of GE food from USAID.
The day that the government tells me how much food i can eat will be the day Mitch blows up some type of Federal building.
Good thing you didn't live during WW2.
That was for a legitimate and agreeable reason.
15 more years! 15 more years!
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

So, because they don't properly address how this applies to rich people, it makes the whole concept invalid?  It sounds like you're beginning to use so-called "liberal" logic.
No, its invalid to begin with.  Will you people stop saying that?  Nobody is saying since celebs dont do it, it must not be real.  Jesus fucking christ.  I am pointing out the BS in their BS argument.  I do not care what they have to say tbh, but, since they are going to cause panic and all this green BS, then they should be held accountable.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7111|Tampa Bay Florida

Mitch wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Oh pleez my ass. I don't think you get it. Farmers can't raise poultry and cattle if the grain they fed them is being used for bio fuels and the hunt for manbearpig. That means your basic grains, meats and vegetables will raise in price as well as the cost of the fuel neded to put in trucks gas tanks to DISTRIBUTE it. Besides, food is distributed already to grocery stores.
What about distributing all the extra food we have here to starving countries? 

o wait, the fat people would get mad.  Seriously though.  Rationing the food would solve the problem.
You did not just say what i think you said.

Ration the food?

Do you know how fucking un-american that is? Seriously, read what you just said.
When people are starving..... fuck it

A government by the people for the people can do whatever the hell it wants to.  Right wingers conveniently forget that part.  Its a self-fufilling prophecy.... government sucks, so elect me to run it, and I'll make it smaller (lol Bush : "not"), but it will still suck.  Dont worry about improving it.

Last edited by Spearhead (2008-07-05 11:07:15)

deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6914|Connecticut

Spearhead wrote:

Mitch wrote:

Spearhead wrote:


What about distributing all the extra food we have here to starving countries? 

o wait, the fat people would get mad.  Seriously though.  Rationing the food would solve the problem.
You did not just say what i think you said.

Ration the food?

Do you know how fucking un-american that is? Seriously, read what you just said.
When people are starving..... fuck it

A government by the people for the people can do whatever the hell it wants to.  Right wingers conveniently forget that part.  Its a self-fufilling prophecy.... government sucks, so elect me to run it, and I'll make it smaller (lol Bush : "not"), but it will still suck.  Dont worry about improving it.
Right wingers forget that part? Right, like Pelosi's fucking windfall tax proposal. Yeah thats a good idea, tax my 401k so that when I retire after 60 years of working my ass off I can pay for hoodrat's retirement too who collected unemployment and state assistance his whole life because his six illegitimate children were such a financial burden to him.
Malloy must go
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6921|so randum

Schittloaf wrote:

Global Climate Change Is A Scam!! 

icebergs are forming at the south pole
Google "Ross Ice Shelf".

Then punch yourself in the face.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7071
redneck
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

FatherTed wrote:

Schittloaf wrote:

Global Climate Change Is A Scam!! 

icebergs are forming at the south pole
Google "Ross Ice Shelf".

Then punch yourself in the face.
and then what?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6921|so randum

usmarine2 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Schittloaf wrote:

Global Climate Change Is A Scam!! 

icebergs are forming at the south pole
Google "Ross Ice Shelf".

Then punch yourself in the face.
and then what?
fist yourself?
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Schittloaf
not fulla schit
+23|6324|MN
Whats with the fisting yourself posts are you GAY ?   

Keep beliving that Us Humans are Wrecking the Planet. thats what every kook out there wants you to belive.  fact is We are a part of the earth and nature  and nature can do damage but it also Heals itself from anything . go hug a tree!!
Roc18
`
+655|6212|PROLLLY PROLLLY PROLLLY

Schittloaf wrote:

Whats with the fisting yourself posts are you GAY ?   

Keep beliving that Us Humans are Wrecking the Planet. thats what every kook out there wants you to belive.  fact is We are a part of the earth and nature  and nature can do damage but it also Heals itself from anything . go hug a tree!!
I think usmarine might be cuz he says it alot to me at least..

point is that we are eventually gonna need to produce alternate fuel types since oil is a finite resource and all this arguing over who is talking BS or not isn't helping solve it.

Last edited by Roc18 (2008-07-06 12:43:05)

m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7093|UK
Al Gore is a god.  If he makes the wasteful amercian people see the error of their ways then i will support him and even turn a blind eye to the fact he doesn't practise what he preaches.

Gore 08.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

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