Vax
Member
+42|6273|Flyover country

Braddock wrote:

Your friend has the benefit of first hand evidence (not the kind you can post a source for obviously) but you can't expect everyone to simply swallow any story these days without convincing evidence. The Pentagon attack was controversial because it didn't look like the kind of damage you would imagine a plane would inflict and, unlike the twin towers, half the planet didn't see it hit. Add a few conspiracy theorists to the mix and you get doubt.

I don't believe anything either way but that's only because I've never had definitive proof given to me, I'll keep an open mind until then. If one of my trusted friends was able to assure me I would then probably be sold on the story too.
Another one.

Wow. I find this amazing..I guess that not living here maybe it never interested you enough to try to find out about it..but it's such a well known event, and so publicly examined.

If you are interested, this is probably the most thorough and well sourced collection of info on the Pentagon attack

Last edited by Vax (2008-07-10 13:01:50)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7187|UK

Lotta_Drool wrote:

This is so fucking stupid there isn't a bus built short enough for it to ride.

#1  if it was torture people wouldn't volunteer to try it.
#2  if it was torture he wouldn't have walked away from it without a mark in fine condition.

Fucking stupid liberals.  Who wants to volunteer to have their fingers nail pulled out with pliers one at a time or their arms bent backward over a door until they dislocate, tear all the ligaments, and then break.

I would gladly have been forced to endure this " torture " than basic training.  So fuck all of you and go hug a bunny rabbit you pussy fart liberals.
So something can't be torture unless it leaves a physical mark?

No wonder people on these boards think your a joke.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6604|Ireland

Vilham wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

This is so fucking stupid there isn't a bus built short enough for it to ride.

#1  if it was torture people wouldn't volunteer to try it.
#2  if it was torture he wouldn't have walked away from it without a mark in fine condition.

Fucking stupid liberals.  Who wants to volunteer to have their fingers nail pulled out with pliers one at a time or their arms bent backward over a door until they dislocate, tear all the ligaments, and then break.

I would gladly have been forced to endure this " torture " than basic training.  So fuck all of you and go hug a bunny rabbit you pussy fart liberals.
So something can't be torture unless it leaves a physical mark?

No wonder people on these boards think your a joke.
If there is no adverse physical effect I would say it is pretty lame torture.  You know the type: barking dogs, loud music, dripping water, nude pictures, blind folds, yelling........

Yeah, I guess I am wayyyyyy out there on this one.  I guess I just don't go around labeling every unpleasant experience as torture. 

The terrorist laugh at pussies like you.  OMG, we can't let dogs bark at them omg omg.  To them it is like fighting a fucking war against TeliTubbies.  I only wish panzies like you were the terrorists that our soldier fight.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6832|'Murka

PureFodder wrote:

FEOS wrote:

PureFodder wrote:


Why not if it's not torture?
What I'm getting at is that there are many unpleasant things that aren't torture and yet also aren't inflicted on the populace at large.
Why not, if it's not torture?

Rememeber that anything inflicted upon terrorist suspects IS inflicted upon the general populace. Terrorism is another crime comitted by the general populace. There's nothing to stop people from the general populace from being implicated in terrorism and therefore being on the shitty end of such interrogations.
Really?

In Ireland, do military guys randomly make average citizens drop and give them 50? Or force them to low crawl under barbed wire?

No? Hmmm...I thought everything that wasn't torture was inflicted on the general populace. That's weird...

Additionally, the laws governing what can be done to US citizens suspected of terrorism are different than those governing what can be done with/to non-citizens. And then there's the SCOTUS ruling about the GITMO boys being allowed to use the US court system.

You are drawing parallels where none exist. There is a clear distinction in the eyes of the law, and different rules apply to the two groups.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6826|North Carolina

Vax wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Whatever the case, 9/11 was staged by extremists, not us.  Now, if you subscribe to the idea that Bush let 9/11 happen, that's feasible.
Feasible ? Really ??
Feasible meaning logical and or likely..

The other guy is clearly mental, but I didn't expect that from you.
There's a big difference between saying something is possible and saying that you believed it happened.  I was merely acknowledging that it's more likely that the government let 9/11 occur than it is that they orchestrated it.

I thought I had been clear in my previous posts that I support the official story, but apparently, I haven't.  I'm not a truther, so don't paint me as one.

I think the government has intentionally capitalized on the fear and anger caused by 9/11, but I don't think the government orchestrated it or let it happen.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6976
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New … BSay%2BMPs

"Given the clear differences in definition, the UK can no longer rely on US assurances that it does not use torture, and we recommend that the Government does not rely on such assurances in the future."

The House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee

Looks like the US' bum-buddy, the UK, is growing a set of balls finally- unlike my own government.

"The suggested shift in approach would have implications for the extradition of prisoners to the US, particularly in terror cases. This is because the UK is a signatory to a UN convention barring the return of individuals to states where they are at risk of being tortured."

lol. It's a bad day when the US are getting lumped in with the caveman countries that such legislation was originally intended for.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-19 18:11:41)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6604|Ireland
Third grade and brushing your teeth daily are torture to the British so I don't think what their government filled with men wearing wigs and speaking like hob knobbery faggots in a bath-house should really be taken seriously when they are offended by how the US prosecutes the war on terrorists.

Besides, the best parts of Britian kicked them to the curb centuries ago.  Ooooops, I guess northern ireland didn't make the grade.

imagine that the people from the part of the world where men wear dresses and wigs feels Americans are too mean to terrorist, oh look it is time to eat me crupets and tea while snob nobbering with the other cross dressers.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6884|meh-land

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Third grade and brushing your teeth daily are torture to the British so I don't think what their government filled with men wearing wigs and speaking like hob knobbery faggots in a bath-house should really be taken seriously when they are offended by how the US prosecutes the war on terrorists.

Besides, the best parts of Britian kicked them to the curb centuries ago.  Ooooops, I guess northern ireland didn't make the grade.

imagine that the people from the part of the world where men wear dresses and wigs feels Americans are too mean to terrorist, oh look it is time to eat me crupets and tea while snob nobbering with the other cross dressers.
lol

control yourself



and in relation to the thread:
obviously he wasn't waterboarded enough, they should bring him in and do it more

edit: i foresee a ban tbh

Last edited by Blehm98 (2008-07-19 19:00:03)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7187|UK

Lotta_Drool wrote:

If there is no adverse physical effect I would say it is pretty lame torture.  You know the type: barking dogs, loud music, dripping water, nude pictures, blind folds, yelling........

Yeah, I guess I am wayyyyyy out there on this one.  I guess I just don't go around labeling every unpleasant experience as torture. 

The terrorist laugh at pussies like you.  OMG, we can't let dogs bark at them omg omg.  To them it is like fighting a fucking war against TeliTubbies.  I only wish panzies like you were the terrorists that our soldier fight.
So giving someone mental disabilities isn't torture? I would rather have my leg broken than have a permanent fear of water, or wake up sweating and absolutely crapping myself over some dream of what I went through.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6604|Ireland

Vilham wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

If there is no adverse physical effect I would say it is pretty lame torture.  You know the type: barking dogs, loud music, dripping water, nude pictures, blind folds, yelling........

Yeah, I guess I am wayyyyyy out there on this one.  I guess I just don't go around labeling every unpleasant experience as torture. 

The terrorist laugh at pussies like you.  OMG, we can't let dogs bark at them omg omg.  To them it is like fighting a fucking war against TeliTubbies.  I only wish panzies like you were the terrorists that our soldier fight.
So giving someone mental disabilities isn't torture? I would rather have my leg broken than have a permanent fear of water, or wake up sweating and absolutely crapping myself over some dream of what I went through.
See, thats what I'm talking about.  Wigs and dresses I tell you.  OMG OMG water on my face, i wunt my mummy boooohoooooo weeeeee whaaaaa!  mmmmmm, is that a spot of black earl tea i smell, you have to toast and jam to go with that?  Nice wig may I peek up your dress?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7187|UK
I dare you to under go water boarding. Lets face it you won't that isn't coz your a pussy though, its coz you know your talking shit and have no idea whatsoever. Anyone that claims they are hard enough to under go torture is already mentally unstable.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6604|Ireland

Vilham wrote:

I dare you to under go water boarding. Lets face it you won't that isn't coz your a pussy though, its coz you know your talking shit and have no idea whatsoever. Anyone that claims they are hard enough to under go torture is already mentally unstable.
I know I would not have any physical or mental damage and walk away from it.  You have no idea what I have endured so go fuck a sheep.

btw, I have never said that the experience is pleasant because if it was it would be pointless.  But people are not hurt by the experience, just like being pinned down and getting " rain drops " or " pink bellied " or " Going thru NBC training and breathing CS gas in a pitch black room not knowing where the exit is till it is opened and light comes in "

Ever met a burn victim or someone who has drown and been recessatated?  I have.  Being burnt would be torture, holding your breath until you inhale water and pass out is not.  Water boarding doesn't even do that it just makes you panic because you think you are going to enhale water and fucks up your breathing.

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2008-07-19 19:09:02)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7187|UK

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I dare you to under go water boarding. Lets face it you won't that isn't coz your a pussy though, its coz you know your talking shit and have no idea whatsoever. Anyone that claims they are hard enough to under go torture is already mentally unstable.
I know I would not have any physical or mental damage and walk away from it.  You have no idea what I have endured so go fuck a sheep.
Yeah im sure you went through torture, I guess that was during your service in the army....

As I thought though, mentally unstable, sure explains a lot.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6604|Ireland

Vilham wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I dare you to under go water boarding. Lets face it you won't that isn't coz your a pussy though, its coz you know your talking shit and have no idea whatsoever. Anyone that claims they are hard enough to under go torture is already mentally unstable.
I know I would not have any physical or mental damage and walk away from it.  You have no idea what I have endured so go fuck a sheep.
Yeah im sure you went through torture, I guess that was during your service in the army....

As I thought though, mentally unstable, sure explains a lot.
You have never been scared, because that is what they do to the terrorists.  Putting someone in a temporary state of panic is not torture.  Your forefathers that have endured much worse voluntarily while in combat think you are a pussy fart.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7195|Noizyland

Both of you are on thin ice if your admin notes are to be believed. Grow up.
[Blinking eyes thing]
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tzyon

Board footer

Privacy Policy - © 2025 Jeff Minard