Wallpaper
+303|6262|The pool
Ill be running it on an ECS board (crap I know, but theyre cheap) so I wont be able to OC. So far from what I can see via Google when not OCing the AMD would be better, but I want your input on it

Ignore price, Im getting these in a Frys combo deal. What do you think?

Last edited by Wallpaper (2008-07-09 14:24:41)

noMad17
Member
+3|6040|Sweden
Well I'm not an expert but you should choose processor depending on what you're going to use your computer for. E.g. if you're a gamer, then you should choose the AMD (preferably single core but I have a dual core and I'm not experiencing any problems.) If you're going to use your computer for work that demands multiple programs running at the same time, i.e. making movies or something like that, you should choose the Intel processor.

But then again, this is just me talking and as I said, I'm not an expert. This entire post is based on what I've heard from people that know more about computer hardware than I do. Anyway, I'd choose the AMD.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6838|Portland, OR, USA
ECS is crap.  Even with a deal, you're really better off selling your ECS mobo (or even returning it a couple weeks later as an unwanted "gift" as I did) and getting a decent quality one.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu- … 311%2C1310

and pretty much every benchmark there says go with the C2D
CrazeD
Member
+368|6941|Maine
Better off with a Gigabyte DS3 over a crap ECS. The Intel version, with P35, is a great overclocking board. They make a DS3H for AM2+ too, not sure about the overclockability of that.

They're both around 90-100$ USD though.
aimless
Member
+166|6393|Texas
You'll want to go with the Intel hands down.
Wallpaper
+303|6262|The pool
Well, considering Im on a *really* tight budget, and the CPU AND Mobo will only be ~$100, getting a different mobo isnt really possible. I dont need, or really want to OC, because when I get more money later this year/early next year Ill probably get a Q6600 and a good mobo.
PS: Ty for help

Last edited by Wallpaper (2008-07-09 19:14:24)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7040|PNW

Wallpaper wrote:

Well, considering Im on a *really* tight budget, and the CPU AND Mobo will only be ~$100, getting a different mobo isnt really possible. I dont need, or really want to OC, because when I get more money later this year/early next year Ill probably get a Q6600 and a good mobo.
PS: Ty for help
Why not just save up and wait for later this year or early the next, since they're so close and you've already planned?
Wallpaper
+303|6262|The pool

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Wallpaper wrote:

Well, considering Im on a *really* tight budget, and the CPU AND Mobo will only be ~$100, getting a different mobo isnt really possible. I dont need, or really want to OC, because when I get more money later this year/early next year Ill probably get a Q6600 and a good mobo.
PS: Ty for help
Why not just save up and wait for later this year or early the next, since they're so close and you've already planned?
I get 10-15 FPS in BF2, which is my main game. Ive dealt with said shitty performance for 3 years on a laptop, so I want to get a desktop started so I can upgrade slowly. I was ready to throw the laptop out the window 2 years ago :x
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6732|cuntshitlake

I say you get a proper mobo, and upgrade other parts later. Priorities, priorities.
If Open Box is not a problem, get this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 813128059R

And for processor something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819116052

That'd be $130. And you would have a good mobo, decent CPU that you Can OC to 2.6 - 3.0GHz on boxed cooler. CPU upgrade would not be a problem in the future either.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:

I say you get a proper mobo, and upgrade other parts later. Priorities, priorities.
If Open Box is not a problem, get this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 813128059R

And for processor something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819116052

That'd be $130. And you would have a good mobo, decent CPU that you Can OC to 2.6 - 3.0GHz on boxed cooler. CPU upgrade would not be a problem in the future either.
I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE STATEMENT.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6408|New Jersey
An Athlon X2 would be a much better choice than that POS Pentium... the 5600+ would be faster to begin with and can OC just as well if not better.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6732|cuntshitlake

SpIk3y wrote:

An Athlon X2 would be a much better choice than that POS Pentium... the 5600+ would be faster to begin with and can OC just as well if not better.
a) You are wrong.
b) That CPU has nothing to do with Pentium. It is Conroe-L, same core as E4xxx and E6xxx series, only with less cache.
c) 5600+ does not overclock even nearly as well as an E2xxx. My E2180 beats a stock E8500, and comes damn near to a Phenom 9600 quad-core at my kinda overclock (see sig).
d) Intel motherboards are generally better (more expensive, yet better) than AMD.
e) Upgrade ability is MUCH better on S775 than AM2 (Better CPUs available)
f) At today's market, Intel is the way to go.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-07-10 13:40:52)

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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

SpIk3y wrote:

An Athlon X2 would be a much better choice than that POS Pentium... the 5600+ would be faster to begin with and can OC just as well if not better.
First post in a while to be wrong on every single point.

EDIT: Krap, DU beat me to it. Great minds think alike.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-07-10 13:41:31)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6408|New Jersey

DeathUnlimited wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

An Athlon X2 would be a much better choice than that POS Pentium... the 5600+ would be faster to begin with and can OC just as well if not better.
a) You are wrong.
b) That CPU has nothing to do with Pentium. It is Conroe-L, same core as E4xxx and E6xxx series, only with less cache.
c) 5600+ does not overclock even nearly as well as an E2xxx. My E2180 beats a stock E8500, and comes damn near to a Phenom 9600 quad-core at my kinda overclock (see sig).
d) Intel motherboards are generally better (more expensive, yet better) than AMD.
e) Upgrade ability is MUCH better on S775 than AM2 (Better CPUs available)
f) At today's market, Intel is the way to go.
The only point I agree with you on is the fact that the Intel route provides better upgradability.  That's very true and I did not think of that.  I still believe that the 5600+ is a much better processor.  When looking for a solid, overclockable budget CPU, AMD is still the way to go.  The Athlon X2 line is really very good.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

SpIk3y wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

An Athlon X2 would be a much better choice than that POS Pentium... the 5600+ would be faster to begin with and can OC just as well if not better.
a) You are wrong.
b) That CPU has nothing to do with Pentium. It is Conroe-L, same core as E4xxx and E6xxx series, only with less cache.
c) 5600+ does not overclock even nearly as well as an E2xxx. My E2180 beats a stock E8500, and comes damn near to a Phenom 9600 quad-core at my kinda overclock (see sig).
d) Intel motherboards are generally better (more expensive, yet better) than AMD.
e) Upgrade ability is MUCH better on S775 than AM2 (Better CPUs available)
f) At today's market, Intel is the way to go.
The only point I agree with you on is the fact that the Intel route provides better upgradability.  That's very true and I did not think of that.  I still believe that the 5600+ is a much better processor.  When looking for a solid, overclockable budget CPU, AMD is still the way to go.  The Athlon X2 line is really very good.
A 5600+ won't do 3.6GHz.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6732|cuntshitlake

SpIk3y wrote:

When looking for a solid, overclockable budget CPU, AMD is still the way to go.  The Athlon X2 line is really very good.
I am not saying 5600+ is totally shit, but for overclocking it is not good. It is unlikely that we are talking about the BE here.

And still, I know a person who had the 5000+X2BE (Which is supposedly better than reg 5600+ for OC'ing) and he couldn't break 3GHz with it. Intel C2D overclocking is also much, much, much easier than AMD.
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