So is this xbox feature only going to be US? Are Europe getting screwed again like normal.
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Who was the best?
| Microsoft | 45% | 45% - 19 | ||||
| Nintendo | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Sony | 54% | 54% - 23 | ||||
| Total: 42 | ||||||
Where are all the Xbox fanboys now that Sony showed off a ton of exclusive games? And Archer pls watch the conferences before talking that amount of crap. Seriously dude.
Well, you don't have Netflix over there...so it's not really like you're getting screwed. I'm sure if you had Netflix (or another movie rental company like that) which wanted to partner with MS, you'd get it...Vilham wrote:
So is this xbox feature only going to be US? Are Europe getting screwed again like normal.
Last edited by Poseidon (2008-07-15 17:13:15)
Yeah, but its advertised as a feature but its a NA feature only so for anyone outside of NA the Sony movie system is infinitely better as there's no movie system for xbox in those regions. I think xbox could have had a better system that included all regions. Maybe they will get partnerships with Europe based renting companies.Poseidon wrote:
Well, you don't have Netflix over there...so it's not really like you're getting screwed. I'm sure if you had Netflix (or another movie rental company like that) which wanted to partner with MS, you'd get it...Vilham wrote:
So is this xbox feature only going to be US? Are Europe getting screwed again like normal.
Xbox still has a movie rental system...they don't have that in Europe?Vilham wrote:
Yeah, but its advertised as a feature but its a NA feature only so for anyone outside of NA the Sony movie system is infinitely better as there's no movie system for xbox in those regions. I think xbox could have had a better system that included all regions. Maybe they will get partnerships with Europe based renting companies.Poseidon wrote:
Well, you don't have Netflix over there...so it's not really like you're getting screwed. I'm sure if you had Netflix (or another movie rental company like that) which wanted to partner with MS, you'd get it...Vilham wrote:
So is this xbox feature only going to be US? Are Europe getting screwed again like normal.
Wikipedia says yes:
"At the present time, the service is available to users in the United States, Canada, UK, Ireland, France and Germany."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live_Marketplace
Ive never used it, didn't realise it did. So wait what's so special about this Netflix deal then?
You get access to the ENTIRE Netflix library. All of it. It's convenient and gives you access to more choices. Plus, you get access to all of Netflix's other stuff, like getting Blu-Rays and seasons of TV shows.Vilham wrote:
Ive never used it, didn't realise it did. So wait what's so special about this Netflix deal then?
I see. Yeah that is good.
Why Sony had a better conference:
-They announced an exclusive line-up of about 25 games for PS3
-They announced these games for PS3 for 30 bucks: Motorstorm, Resistance, Warhawk, Call of Duty 3, Fight Night, Need for Speed: Carbon, Assassin's Creed, Rainbow Six Vegas, Oblivion: The Elder Scrolls, Ninja Gaiden.
-MAG: Massive Action Game for PS3 or 256 players online on the same server.
-God of War 3 for PS3 announced.
-Sony announces 80GB PS3 will be $399 in Sept.
-New PS2 bundle has Lego Batman, Justice League movie, $149 price.
-Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty for PS3 $14.99
-PSN's video content is open for business to all studios since tonight
-Sony offers a PSP Entertainment pack for $199
-They announced an exclusive line-up of about 25 games for PS3
-They announced these games for PS3 for 30 bucks: Motorstorm, Resistance, Warhawk, Call of Duty 3, Fight Night, Need for Speed: Carbon, Assassin's Creed, Rainbow Six Vegas, Oblivion: The Elder Scrolls, Ninja Gaiden.
-MAG: Massive Action Game for PS3 or 256 players online on the same server.
-God of War 3 for PS3 announced.
-Sony announces 80GB PS3 will be $399 in Sept.
-New PS2 bundle has Lego Batman, Justice League movie, $149 price.
-Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty for PS3 $14.99
-PSN's video content is open for business to all studios since tonight
-Sony offers a PSP Entertainment pack for $199
lol, nice assumptionsergeriver wrote:
Where are all the Xbox fanboys now that Sony showed off a ton of exclusive games? And Archer pls watch the conferences before talking that amount of crap. Seriously dude.
I watched all of the conferences; except like 30 mins of the Nintendo conference because it didn't interest me much. Did you watch the others ones; lol? Somehow I doubt it. Shame too, it's such a great year for games and people just slump into their own console of preference, rather than just admire the great games that are coming out of all 3 companies in general.
Also, when did I talk crap? Please point it out; as I think most people detect none whatsoever. Preference to MS [conference] =/= Talking crap.. I don't think my opinion is "outrageous" enough to qualify as crap.
Sounds like you're a Sony fanboy btw; mmm
Last edited by Archer (2008-07-15 18:41:16)
Dude, don't even bother arguing. Mention Halo on these forums and you get bashed. Mention GT5 or God of War, it's all of a sudden the best series and you see constant raves. Serge refuses to swallow his pride and admit MS had an awesome conference. Sony could announce they were giving up the PS3 and going back to focusing on other electronics and MS could announce that the 360 can now cure cancer, and Serge still wouldn't think that that 360 had a better conference.Archer wrote:
lol, nice assumptionsergeriver wrote:
Where are all the Xbox fanboys now that Sony showed off a ton of exclusive games? And Archer pls watch the conferences before talking that amount of crap. Seriously dude.
I watched all of the conferences; except like 30 mins of the Nintendo conference because it didn't interest me much. Did you watch the others ones; lol? Somehow I doubt it. Shame too, it's such a great year for games and people just slump into their own console of preference, rather than just admire the great games that are coming out of all 3 companies in general.
Also, when did I talk crap? Please point it out; as I think most people detect none whatsoever. Preference to MS [conference] =/= Talking crap.. I don't think my opinion is "outrageous" enough to qualify as crap.
Sounds like you're a Sony fanboy btw; mmm
And yes, Serge is an admitted Sony fanboy.
I think serge said somewhere that he was pumped for GoW2...Poseidon wrote:
Dude, don't even bother arguing. Mention Halo on these forums and you get bashed. Mention GT5 or God of War, it's all of a sudden the best series and you see constant raves. Serge refuses to swallow his pride and admit MS had an awesome conference. Sony could announce they were giving up the PS3 and going back to focusing on other electronics and MS could announce that the 360 can now cure cancer, and Serge still wouldn't think that that 360 had a better conference.Archer wrote:
lol, nice assumptionsergeriver wrote:
Where are all the Xbox fanboys now that Sony showed off a ton of exclusive games? And Archer pls watch the conferences before talking that amount of crap. Seriously dude.
I watched all of the conferences; except like 30 mins of the Nintendo conference because it didn't interest me much. Did you watch the others ones; lol? Somehow I doubt it. Shame too, it's such a great year for games and people just slump into their own console of preference, rather than just admire the great games that are coming out of all 3 companies in general.
Also, when did I talk crap? Please point it out; as I think most people detect none whatsoever. Preference to MS [conference] =/= Talking crap.. I don't think my opinion is "outrageous" enough to qualify as crap.
Sounds like you're a Sony fanboy btw; mmm
And yes, Serge is an admitted Sony fanboy.
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and imo Sony was better. We have movie download service too, plus a bunch of nice looking exclusives coming.sergeriver wrote:
Meh, I like that game but don't have a Xbox.r'Eeee wrote:
Gears of War 2 next. Sweet, I am gonna drool.
Last edited by Miggle (2008-07-15 18:51:19)
And you're free to think that! See, Archer and I don't care if you think that. We disagree, but that's your opinion. Did you see how badly Archer got jumped on for thinking that MS had the better conference?Miggle wrote:
I think serge said somewhere that he was pumped for GoW2...Poseidon wrote:
Dude, don't even bother arguing. Mention Halo on these forums and you get bashed. Mention GT5 or God of War, it's all of a sudden the best series and you see constant raves. Serge refuses to swallow his pride and admit MS had an awesome conference. Sony could announce they were giving up the PS3 and going back to focusing on other electronics and MS could announce that the 360 can now cure cancer, and Serge still wouldn't think that that 360 had a better conference.Archer wrote:
lol, nice assumption
I watched all of the conferences; except like 30 mins of the Nintendo conference because it didn't interest me much. Did you watch the others ones; lol? Somehow I doubt it. Shame too, it's such a great year for games and people just slump into their own console of preference, rather than just admire the great games that are coming out of all 3 companies in general.
Also, when did I talk crap? Please point it out; as I think most people detect none whatsoever. Preference to MS [conference] =/= Talking crap.. I don't think my opinion is "outrageous" enough to qualify as crap.
Sounds like you're a Sony fanboy btw; mmm
And yes, Serge is an admitted Sony fanboy.
and imo Sony was better. We have movie download service too, plus a bunch of nice looking exclusives coming.
edit: fuck spelling
Last edited by Poseidon (2008-07-15 18:49:33)
Its not a case of jumping on someone for thinking something is better, its reasoning something is better on things that aren't true that's the problem.
Who gives a shit what their reasoning is? If they don't like it, they don't like it. You, nor Serge, nor anyone have any right to jump on someone for their opinion.Vilham wrote:
Its not a case of jumping on someone for thinking something is better, its reasoning something is better on things that aren't true that's the problem.
No but saying MS conference is better because they have mirrors edge and fallout 3? Mirrors edge and fallout 3 are PS3 games too. Which is why its a pretty retarded opinion.Poseidon wrote:
Who gives a shit what their reasoning is? If they don't like it, they don't like it. You, nor Serge, nor anyone have any right to jump on someone for their opinion.Vilham wrote:
Its not a case of jumping on someone for thinking something is better, its reasoning something is better on things that aren't true that's the problem.
You said he has a "misguided" opinion. Like honestly, where do you get off saying that? It's his own opinion, he can have it for whatever reasons he wants. People give shitty reasons for not liking Hockey too but I don't care.Vilham wrote:
No but saying MS conference is better because they have mirrors edge and fallout 3? Mirrors edge and fallout 3 are PS3 games too. Which is why its a pretty retarded opinion.Poseidon wrote:
Who gives a shit what their reasoning is? If they don't like it, they don't like it. You, nor Serge, nor anyone have any right to jump on someone for their opinion.Vilham wrote:
Its not a case of jumping on someone for thinking something is better, its reasoning something is better on things that aren't true that's the problem.
An opinion can be misguided, opinions are based off of facts and off of general feelings for something, he based his claim that MS had a better conference on facts that are in fact not facts. If he gave a different reason I wouldn't have cared, his reason however was inconsistent with what is actually shown, thus I brought up that opinion of mine.Poseidon wrote:
You said he has a "misguided" opinion. Like honestly, where do you get off saying that? It's his own opinion, he can have it for whatever reasons he wants. People give shitty reasons for not liking Hockey too but I don't care.Vilham wrote:
No but saying MS conference is better because they have mirrors edge and fallout 3? Mirrors edge and fallout 3 are PS3 games too. Which is why its a pretty retarded opinion.Poseidon wrote:
Who gives a shit what their reasoning is? If they don't like it, they don't like it. You, nor Serge, nor anyone have any right to jump on someone for their opinion.
Again - who cares WHY he likes it? If he likes it, he likes it!Vilham wrote:
An opinion can be misguided, opinions are based off of facts and off of general feelings for something, he based his claim that MS had a better conference on facts that are in fact not facts. If he gave a different reason I wouldn't have cared, his reason however was inconsistent with what is actually shown, thus I brought up that opinion of mine.Poseidon wrote:
You said he has a "misguided" opinion. Like honestly, where do you get off saying that? It's his own opinion, he can have it for whatever reasons he wants. People give shitty reasons for not liking Hockey too but I don't care.Vilham wrote:
No but saying MS conference is better because they have mirrors edge and fallout 3? Mirrors edge and fallout 3 are PS3 games too. Which is why its a pretty retarded opinion.
You're bashing his opinion for really no good reason at all. The fact that he mentioned multi-console games? Uh, yeah, so? They were the ones who gave a gameplay video of it. He's excited because it's coming to the 360...what's the big deal? I don't get why you or Serge has to debate his opinion. Just let him have it, post yours and move on. There's no need to debate it.
As Zimmer said - Why can't you just let it go? Why do you have to argue about it? He liked MS more - big fucking deal! Let it go.
This topic is just another example of how this forum goes. Mention you liked Sony more - fine. Mention you liked MS more - you get a hassle for it.
Last edited by Poseidon (2008-07-15 19:51:16)
I like MS, they maek fun gmae
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And again... i have already stated I don't care if he like the MS conference, his reasons for claiming its better however are stupid. That's my opinion. I don't care if you like it or not. So in fact your being pretty damn hypocritical. If you think people should be allowed their own opinion you shouldn't really be bitching at me for disagreeing with his. Or am I not allowed to disagree with other peoples opinions? Is that the special rule?Poseidon wrote:
Again - who cares WHY he likes it? If he likes it, he likes it!Vilham wrote:
An opinion can be misguided, opinions are based off of facts and off of general feelings for something, he based his claim that MS had a better conference on facts that are in fact not facts. If he gave a different reason I wouldn't have cared, his reason however was inconsistent with what is actually shown, thus I brought up that opinion of mine.Poseidon wrote:
You said he has a "misguided" opinion. Like honestly, where do you get off saying that? It's his own opinion, he can have it for whatever reasons he wants. People give shitty reasons for not liking Hockey too but I don't care.
You're bashing his opinion for really no good reason at all. The fact that he mentioned multi-console games? Uh, yeah, so? They were the ones who gave a gameplay video of it. He's excited because it's coming to the 360...what's the big deal? I don't get why you or Serge has to debate his opinion. Just let him have it, post yours and move on. There's no need to debate it.
As Zimmer said - Why can't you just let it go? Why do you have to argue about it? He liked MS more - big fucking deal! Let it go.
This topic is just another example of how this forum goes. Mention you liked Sony more - fine. Mention you liked MS more - you get a hassle for it.
If you don't like debating stay out of it.
Last edited by Vilham (2008-07-15 21:58:49)
You missed the entire point of my post, obviously. Yes you can have your own opinion, but attacking and jumping on him for his? That's not an "opinion". That's baseless attacking because he doesn't agree with what you say. Calling his opinion "misguided" because it's not based on facts is also one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. You realize the words fact and opinion are just about complete opposites, right? An opinion can be backed by anything. I could say that the Boston Celtics suck. That's my opinion. Sure, they won the NBA championship - but that's my opinion. I don't need "facts" to back it up. Would they be useful in an argument? Sure. But Archer wasn't arguing anything. Archer simply stated why he thinks the MS conference was good, and you jumped on him for it because you disagreed why he thinks so.Vilham wrote:
And again... i have already stated I don't care if he like the MS conference, his reasons for claiming its better however are stupid. That's my opinion. I don't care if you like it or not. So in fact your being pretty damn hypocritical. If you think people should be allowed their own opinion you shouldn't really be bitching at me for disagreeing with his. Or am I not allowed to disagree with other peoples opinions? Is that the special rule?Poseidon wrote:
Again - who cares WHY he likes it? If he likes it, he likes it!Vilham wrote:
An opinion can be misguided, opinions are based off of facts and off of general feelings for something, he based his claim that MS had a better conference on facts that are in fact not facts. If he gave a different reason I wouldn't have cared, his reason however was inconsistent with what is actually shown, thus I brought up that opinion of mine.
You're bashing his opinion for really no good reason at all. The fact that he mentioned multi-console games? Uh, yeah, so? They were the ones who gave a gameplay video of it. He's excited because it's coming to the 360...what's the big deal? I don't get why you or Serge has to debate his opinion. Just let him have it, post yours and move on. There's no need to debate it.
As Zimmer said - Why can't you just let it go? Why do you have to argue about it? He liked MS more - big fucking deal! Let it go.
This topic is just another example of how this forum goes. Mention you liked Sony more - fine. Mention you liked MS more - you get a hassle for it.
Obviously you're just gonna keep going on about it though, and there's not much I can do. If that's the way you react to people's opinions that you don't agree with - that's your prerogative.
If I said I liked MS because I think they're better because Halo > MGS - there's nothing you can argue about that. There's no facts in the world that can change that because it's my OPINION.
Obviously you love it, since you seem to argue with anyone who even mentions the word "I liked MS more" or anything relating to MS being better. Why do you have to consistently argue? I just don't get it.Vilham wrote:
If you don't like debating stay out of it.
Last edited by Poseidon (2008-07-15 21:59:50)
Please say where I jumped on him? I merely pointed out some things I thought differently about. Where in here do I say that's not an opinion?
"Archer you know that Microsoft didn't show many exclusives and lets face it that's what its about at the companies individual presentations, all the cross platform games are shown later anyway. To show none exclusives is a waste of time, it doesn't show what your console individually offers.
Microsoft didn't do bad in that aspect with showing the new look live and gears 2, but it seemed to me they didn't actually have anything to show."
It wasn't till you showed up with your bitching like normal that I even mentioned that I thought his opinion was misguided and yes an opinion can be backed by anything including facts as I have already mentioned.
I put forward the idea MS presentation wasn't great because it didn't actually feature much to the system was unique he disagreed and posted games he say MS present, I countered etc etc. Its called debate, if you don't like it don't get involved.
and lol at "jumping" on him I merely suggested some other counter reasons to see what he thought. Its called starting a debate.
And actually again your wrong, there is something I can argue with you about on that, again it's called debate. Since when was debate about changing someone's mind? Never. It is not the intent or purpose of debate. It is to put forward an opinion on a subject to stir some interest in that subject.
Instead of telling me to drop it how about take the "moral high ground" and drop it yourself.
"Archer you know that Microsoft didn't show many exclusives and lets face it that's what its about at the companies individual presentations, all the cross platform games are shown later anyway. To show none exclusives is a waste of time, it doesn't show what your console individually offers.
Microsoft didn't do bad in that aspect with showing the new look live and gears 2, but it seemed to me they didn't actually have anything to show."
It wasn't till you showed up with your bitching like normal that I even mentioned that I thought his opinion was misguided and yes an opinion can be backed by anything including facts as I have already mentioned.
I put forward the idea MS presentation wasn't great because it didn't actually feature much to the system was unique he disagreed and posted games he say MS present, I countered etc etc. Its called debate, if you don't like it don't get involved.
and lol at "jumping" on him I merely suggested some other counter reasons to see what he thought. Its called starting a debate.
And actually again your wrong, there is something I can argue with you about on that, again it's called debate. Since when was debate about changing someone's mind? Never. It is not the intent or purpose of debate. It is to put forward an opinion on a subject to stir some interest in that subject.
Instead of telling me to drop it how about take the "moral high ground" and drop it yourself.
You jumped on him because he simply posted who he thought had the better conference, and of course because you didn't agree with it, you jumped all over him stating how misguided his opinion was (which I still think is hilarious...so does Zimmer apparentely).Vilham wrote:
Please say where I jumped on him? I merely pointed out some things I thought differently about. Where in here do I say that's not an opinion?
"Archer you know that Microsoft didn't show many exclusives and lets face it that's what its about at the companies individual presentations, all the cross platform games are shown later anyway. To show none exclusives is a waste of time, it doesn't show what your console individually offers.
Microsoft didn't do bad in that aspect with showing the new look live and gears 2, but it seemed to me they didn't actually have anything to show."
It wasn't till you showed up with your bitching like normal that I even mentioned that I thought his opinion was misguided and yes an opinion can be backed by anything including facts as I have already mentioned.
I put forward the idea MS presentation wasn't great because it didn't actually feature much to the system was unique he disagreed and posted games he say MS present, I countered etc etc. Its called debate, if you don't like it don't get involved.
and lol at "jumping" on him I merely suggested some other counter reasons to see what he thought. Its called starting a debate.
And actually again your wrong, there is something I can argue with you about on that, again it's called debate. Since when was debate about changing someone's mind? Never. It is not the intent or purpose of debate. It is to put forward an opinion on a subject to stir some interest in that subject.
Instead of telling me to drop it how about take the "moral high ground" and drop it yourself.
And if you actually read the thread, I didn't confront you about your bashing Archer's opinion until the second page - you said his opinion was misguided on the first. Actually, now that I see it, you said his opinion was misguided before I even POSTED in the thread!
You've been pointed out for your hypocrisy and ridiculous posts several times in this thread. I wonder why?
Again, you missed the point of my post - why did you have to debate it? Why do you have to debate EVERYTHING that disagrees with your opinion? It's not like he bashed Sony, he actually posted quite respectfully (which is something quite odd from Archer..). He didn't like the Sony conference and liked the MS one more. Big fucking deal. Holy shit.
I never started this. It's ALWAYS you who refuses to drop shit. Just like when you carried over those arguments to PM, or gave me that flame karma after the threads were closed? You always have to get your way, eh?
Last edited by Poseidon (2008-07-15 22:54:06)
1.Sony- They had the download movies thing available the day of the conference instead of making us wait till the fall
2.Microsoft- I'm a huge fan but I they are going to much into the wii route and it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo sues Microsoft
3.Nintendo Wii- The chick smiled way to much and I thought she was loaded up on caffeine (and yes I did fall asleep during the conference lol)
Oh yeah and I hate Sean White and that stupid Wii snowboarding.
2.Microsoft- I'm a huge fan but I they are going to much into the wii route and it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo sues Microsoft
3.Nintendo Wii- The chick smiled way to much and I thought she was loaded up on caffeine (and yes I did fall asleep during the conference lol)
Oh yeah and I hate Sean White and that stupid Wii snowboarding.
Last edited by Obiwan (2008-07-16 00:05:25)