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2006-01-15 15:00:20

JaM3z: Banned; +311|7138

hi i am from the {{SAS}}-uk clan we recently had a match with the esoldier clan we are both UK based, all i want to know is if any of you have played the esoldier clan before the rules where no commander no SF unlocks so we played with NO commander and NO SF unlocks, where as they where playing WITH SF unlocks and had a knack of finding all our players on the map no matter where they where, they kept on pausing the server for 15mins at a time as they said "to talk about there tactics", they where dolphin diving bunny hopping and using the F2000 GL as there primary weopon all of them where, they spawn camped and even blew our assets up, why i dont know as we where not using commander when we blew there assests up they fixed them with supplies, on the the 2nd map 2nd round we where all kicked from there server via punkbuster and banned for 5mins for saying the word "FUCK" where none of us said "FUCK" at all

we lost every round ecept one where we employed there tactics and n00b tubed the fuck out of them with the F2000 GL

has anyone played this clan before and if so wondered how the fuck they found you without using a UAV or scan

there server ip is 84.244.131.49: 16567

this was written on behalf of the {{SAS}}-uk clan we hope to see some responce

we have screen shots of them using SF unlocks and pausing the server we also have a fraps video of all the match's just to show how long they paused the server for

many thanks {{SAS}}-uk clan

2006-01-15 15:55:10

:]-[: El_Shiznit: Member; +3|7176|Florida

Haha, TWL?
I remember a post on the TWL forums from your clan, so it's just a guess.

If they used the unlocks on any TWL ladder except for the 8v8 unlocks one, that is grounds for forfeit and you guys will take an automatic win. As far as I know, every ladder has the commander option enabled unless agreed in match comms. In 5v5's, you can't use arty though. If you guys did agree to no commander, then the supplies repairing their assets would obviously give it away and that's another forfeit.

Of course, if it wasn't a TWL match, that's a different story.
And I only know the rules of the North American 5 and 8 man ladders. No European, but I think they are very similar.

2006-01-15 16:11:36

-=256=-Evo_Wales: The New Evolution in gaming...; +14|7184|Cardiff, Wales

Well, if they broke the rules that you agreed before the match report them to the league/ladder/cup admins and make them sort it out, and use the evidence available to you

2006-01-15 16:15:10

JaM3z: Banned; +311|7138

it was a clan base match and they are basicly same rules as everyone else have reported them but the server pausing took the piss have vids and screeny's just compressing it and sending it off now, also when we where paused for 15 min we came bk and all the flags where capped WTF

2006-01-15 16:45:23

I.M.I Militant: We Are Not Alone In Here; +297|7147|Melbourne, Australia

that is so fuken sad... wat u should of done is switcvhed teams an took a screenie on the sqaud menue of them havin a commander

2006-01-16 02:41:58

JaM3z: Banned; +311|7138

i did try but the teams where balenced and team balencing was on so i couldnt switch teams byt we do have alot of evidence sent it all off to clan base and awaiting a reply

2006-02-09 04:51:20

eS^derxen: Member; +0|7080

Right..

Hi everyone, I'm eS^derxen, clanleader of eSoldiers.

This story of JaM3z really supprised me. I think you guys should hear the other side
of the story because this really really makes us look like a bunch of childish n00bs.

The rules were: NO commander, but WITH BF2 unlocks.

In the beginning of the match we saw YOU guys playing with unlocks, but at the same time 1 or 2
mistaked the G63E for NOT beeing an SF unlock, which made both clans make an mistake, but
really ... this was only for maybe just the first two minutes of the first round of the war. We apologised and the two switched back to BF2 unlocks. Eventhough we did this.. We found SASuk still playing with SF
unlocks... our Tank has been flashbanged several times. Also in the third and fourth round of the war, SASuk did play with SF unlocks. We did not say anything, because we were wrong earlier.

Finding your players really has nothing to do with cheats or UAV or whatever is in your mind. We simply expect some players to be somewhere. I think you guys are rude to simply assume we use UAV. And about destroying your CMD assets? I think you are mistaking this war with another, because we really did not destroy your assets, why the hell would we? So you simply assumed that we played with Commander so you used the commander mode yourself? Yes you did ... we found that in our serverlog, how lame is that?

Now ... we were winning with great scores and you're saying we paused the server to talk about tactics? Man .. how wrong can you be. Yes... some of your guys got disconnected by Punkbuster, I don't know why, but THAT'S the reason we paused the server. So that you guys could rejoin the server, without missing any time of the war. I think that's a good thing to do and I think everyone will agree on me there.
eSoldiers is WELL organised and does NOT need to talk about tactics during the match, we already know them!
And using the F2000? That's bull ... Noone used the F2000.

eSoldiers has great warreports and judges from other clans for years already! We don't have the intention to fuck up a war that's there to have FUN.

So about the threats you were talking about (screenshots, video)...

*
We have screens of players from SASuk that are not even registered to Clanbase! Who? YOU!
Yes, JaM3z did play the war, but there's no nickname that looks like that in your list. Maybe you
have another nickname? It's against the rules anyway.

*
How hypocrite can you be, making screens of player using SF unlocks (only for a bit in the 1st round by mistake) while you guys were using them aswell!

Then I've got a last thing to say ... I think it's complete stupid of SASuk to post this on a forum, while not complaining with us. Are you affraid to see the concequences? If you did not agree with our gameplay, why did you not complain during the war so we could fix it? If you did not agree with the score, the WHY did you ACCEPT it on clanbase???

Man... SASuk are a bunch of whiners. See the judgements and warreports on clanbase:

http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=555171

I hope I convinced you guys to not believe the nonsence of JaM3z. If I didn't ... have a nice day
and see you at 84.244.131.49

byebye.

oh btw ... we're not UK based, we're from Holland.

Last edited by eS^derxen (2006-02-09 05:00:07)

2006-02-09 05:14:14

Speelbal: Member; +146|7180|Netherlands

Could we see the Serverlog?

So everyone can make up his mind for himself.

2006-02-09 05:16:52

I2elik: Member; +12|7180|Perth, Western Australia

Funny how Jam3z never posted a link to any of the screenshots, right now I'm going to believe derxen, based on the fact he doesn't sound like a whiny 13 year old who can scream OMFG HAX like a speeding bullet.

2006-02-09 05:19:49

eS^derxen: Member; +0|7080

Speelbal wrote:
Could we see the Serverlog?

So everyone can make up his mind for himself.

Unfortunately not, because we didn't think there would be any problems (they accepted the results and did not complain too much).

I can't reach the logs now, because the match has been played about 3 weeks ago. Meanwhile i3d.nl buyed new servers, so it has all been reset.

So no ... I can't prove much, but them posting here on a forum without letting us know of any trouble says it all if you ask me.

eS^derxen.

2006-02-09 05:27:17

Speelbal: Member; +146|7180|Netherlands

Note for in the future: Save all server logs!

2006-02-09 05:53:05

JaM3z: Banned; +311|7138

the screen shots

when we moaned about the UAV this is the reaply we got (if you cant read that it says "do it aswell then")

https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7278/uavmoan4sy.jpg

when i was saying about kicking and pausing

https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3658/constantkicking2ef.jpg

then yes we did all get kicked by punkbuster and yes the round was paused for 5 mins at a time all the round and yes the rounds where restarted when we said it was live, anyways i am registerd to clan base and have been since i started playing match's my clan base nick is JaM3z same as the forum and yes i was in the {{SAS}} caln on clan base you may have checked recently from which i left the {{SAS}} clan, from lack of comunication and lack of match's, lack of people on the server on the server playing maps i dont like so that would be why i am not in the clan base anymore.

and yes i did go commander breifly after you said we should use UAV aswell, and to set the record straight i flashbanged a tank once! not several times, and you where using SF weopons and on our match breifing we where told we could could use them, when we started to play i was tubed by the F2000GL CONSTANTLY then you restarted and said we could not use them.

other things we noticed about your players was that they had some weird ability to throw c4 miles in the air (even higher than you can with jump) onto buildings and other high places, one get me when i was on top of the crane and one of your players was below me.

so finnaly dont give me all this BS about you wernt using commander everytime we had a last player left YOU guys found him immediatly he could have been on the other side of the map with no one even near him and you guys found him within 5 seconds, how???

also one of your guys did repair your commander UAV after we blew it up.

and why should we ask you, why not ask other people if they have played you and found something strange if we would have had other people say other things we would have asked you but as we didnt we couldnt be botherd

very very last thing i am no longer in the {{SAS}} so if you wanna complain to them i suggest you take it up with them.

EDIT: and man o man what the fuck was with all the bunnyhoping and dolphing diving?

Last edited by JaM3z (2006-02-09 05:59:59)

2006-02-09 07:07:11

eS^derxen: Member; +0|7080

Right ...

Well I still think it's wrong that you simply assume we use UAV, because we found your player. And by the way .... after the match ends, you can see who has commander points. I did not see anything, did you? Oh I guess we're cheaters then ..

And me saying you could do it aswell? .... Dude, I was refering to the bunnyhopping. If we have player that do ... it doesn't mean they're cheating or whatever. You may think it's lame ... then don't play till the next patch!

And if you were tubed by F2000 (while beeing LIVE!) ... give me the screens, I'd be thrilled to see those.

And the paused screen... you see that somebody's is beeing kicked, so we pause .. what's wrong about that??? .. Dude .. you really have a wrong image about eSoldiers. If you wanna talk about it on TeamSpeak, I'd happy to talk about it ... because really ... you are wrong.

We're all mature players with lots of war-experience ... the last thing eSoldiers will do is laming. Like posting this BS after you accepted a score on CB. whuss.

Hmm.. I found this screen of you guys using the SF unlocks:

[img]http://www.esoldiers.net/images/sasuk.jpg[/img]

Last edited by eS^derxen (2006-02-09 07:19:03)

2006-02-09 11:27:10

eS^azzinc: Member; +0|7080

Well as co-Clanleader of eSoldiers i do want to join in in this discussion.

Earlier in this topic eS^Derxen said the serverlog of this match is unavailable..
Wel its not.. I looked up the log file on the server and read it trough..

First of all lets begin by saying we both made a mistake by using the SF unlock in the beginnen both we sorted that problem like gents, a least we thought at that moment.

Server Log wrote:
eS^azzinc 2 Global [06:18:04] srry bout the sf unlocks.. lets not use them again both..

Then lets talk about the kicks via punkbuster for bad language..

Jamez says:

JaM3z wrote:
on the the 2nd map 2nd round we where all kicked from there server via punkbuster and banned for 5mins for saying the word "FUCK" where none of us said "FUCK" at all

I do not agree..

Next quote shows briefly what the mood was on SAS side.

Server Log wrote:
5 gps714 2 Global [06:10:51] I THOUGHT U SAID NO BUNNY HOPPIN U NOOBS
14 SAS*uk EliteSoldier.mp3 1 Global [06:28:13] aSTOP FUCKING BUNNYJUMPS U NOOB
15 SAS_uk JaM3z_18 1 Global [06:28:21] FUCK FUCK FUCK
14 SAS*uk EliteSoldier.mp3 2 Team [06:51:28] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMFUCK I SPAWNED ON WRONG PLACE

If i wanted i could go on for sometime but i wont..

Becouse of the bad language PB kicked in and removed some of their players......
Gents as we are we paused the game so they could reconnect and finish the war normaly.

Server Log wrote:
Admin None ServerMessage [06:55:43] **** SAS_uk darkcircuituk: you have a high average ping and will be kicked.
15 SAS_uk JaM3z_18 2 Global [06:57:34] WHY THE FUCKING PAUSE
7 eS^derxen 1 Global [06:57:42] because you disconnected
7 eS^derxen 1 Global [06:57:52] jezus man... were just beeing polite
13 gps714 2 Global [06:57:53] *§1DEAD§0*why r u guys fannying aroun
11 SAS_uk darkcircuituk 2 Global [06:57:58] *§1DEAD§0*we are leaving

And smallminded as SAS was they left at that moment....
At that moment there where a few tickets left and there was no way that SAS could have one the war or the round!

On the first screenshot showed by JaM3z you see eS^derxen saying "do it aswell then".
JaM3z says it's a reply on us using commander..
The server log shows different..

Server Log wrote:
15 SAS_uk JaM3z_18 1 Global [06:28:43] PUSSY AS BUNNY HOPIN
7 eS^derxen 2 Global [06:28:54] do it aswell then

Then the last thing that bothers me is that SAS did use the commander mode while it was not allowed.
True they say they did but that doesnt make it right!!

Server Log wrote:
gps714 2 Team [06:44:49] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMnoooo cause if u kill some 1 they will no about commander
15 SAS_uk JaM3z_18 2 Team [06:44:57] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMi know

Ofcourse i've proven here that all the things JaM3z implied are infact NOT true.
However I can not proof that we, eSoldiers, did not use commander mode simply cause it can not be checked.

If you ask me or all the other clans we have played against on ClanBase eSoldiers are not cheaters but fair players. What would a win mean if you don't deserve it...

If there are any questions.. Go Ahead!

If there are any people who doubt the quote's from the server log, mail to azzinc@esoldiers.net and I will send you a copy of the log!

yours,

eS^azzinc

2006-02-09 11:54:37

Dr.Battlefield: Got milk?; +150|7179

ummmm pwned?

2006-02-09 12:00:45

raz: Member; +22|7091|England, UK

Playing no commander is stupid!! ..because you can't be sure they are sticking to this rule! DankE!

2006-02-09 12:03:02

raz: Member; +22|7091|England, UK

eS^azzinc wrote:
What would a win mean if you don't deserve it...

yours,

eS^azzinc

It means points, meaning you go up in the ladder..

2006-02-09 12:32:36

Rev0: Member; +6|7082

you think this is bad? we played a match with a squad on their server and we cudnt even use the revive function. but im not naming names since we got a rematch tomorrow (friday)

2006-02-09 12:43:27

eS^azzinc: Member; +0|7080

raz wrote:
It means points, meaning you go up in the ladder..

True.. But isn't fun one of the most important things while playing a game?

raz wrote:
Playing no commander is stupid!! ..because you can't be sure they are sticking to this rule!

Playing without commander just puts another dimension in the game..
If you ask me about the weakest point of the game i would say the commander mode is..

especialy when youre playing 8 vs. 8.. when playing with commander you dont need no skills or tacs..

DANKE

2006-02-09 12:58:48

Mabec: Re-Member-Me; +6|7259

if there really is a server log, post it asap. no parts here and there. (stop hiding the evidence)

and is it not VERY easy to see if someone are playing as the commander on a 8vs8 match? (u simply cant see the player wh0s commanding on the enemys team, on the scoreboard.)

2006-02-09 13:00:56

eS^azzinc: Member; +0|7080

If u want the complete server log give me youre email and i'll send it to you..

2006-02-09 13:04:02

Dr.Battlefield: Got milk?; +150|7179

Try to play on the neutral server next time

2006-02-09 13:04:16

Mabec: Re-Member-Me; +6|7259

(just upload it somewhere, iam sure more ppl will find it interesting) iam still not really convinced who might tell the truth.

2006-02-09 13:11:15

eS^azzinc: Member; +0|7080

just because youre an non beleiver...

http://www.esoldiers.net/bf2dchat_2006_01_16.log

I'm not trying to confince you.. I know my clan has nothing to hide..

Just hate the fact that one sore loser is trying to ruin our rep..

2006-02-09 15:40:40

Jake Trekhake: Member; +0|7079

Mabec wrote:
and is it not VERY easy to see if someone are playing as the commander on a 8vs8 match? (u simply cant see the player wh0s commanding on the enemys team, on the scoreboard.)

When the game is over, you`ll see a scoreboard wich tells you if someone was commander or not.

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