sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina
Hamas security forces in the Gaza Strip are said to have arrested 160 Fatah supporters and set up checkpoints after an explosion killed six people.

Now that there are two Palestines, how do you consider Fatah and Hamas?
Is Hamas a police force?  A government?  Just terrorists?  What the hell are those guys?
God Save the Queen
Banned
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what do you think?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina
Extremists with a government wannabe complex?
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6643|Escea

sergeriver wrote:

Hamas security forces in the Gaza Strip are said to have arrested 160 Fatah supporters and set up checkpoints after an explosion killed six people.

Now that there are two Palestines, how do you consider Fatah and Hamas?
Is Hamas a police force?  A government?  Just terrorists?  What the hell are those guys?
Trying to put on a good face more likely
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6763|tropical regions of london

sergeriver wrote:

Extremists with a government wannabe complex?
they were democratically elected into power.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6825|North Carolina

sergeriver wrote:

What the hell are those guys?
Fucking nuts...
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
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Turquoise wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

What the hell are those guys?
Fucking nuts...
is right!
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6949|Global Command
"They will not be released after six months but will be hanged from the gallows and shot."
Sounds pretty serious.

What they need is a body that can negotiate for the Palestinians. Hamas or Fatah, don't matter to me, as long as there is a party in control to answer for the rockets and negotiate in good faith.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7095|Canberra, AUS

ATG wrote:

"They will not be released after six months but will be hanged from the gallows and shot."
Sounds pretty serious.

What they need is a body that can negotiate for the Palestinians. Hamas or Fatah, don't matter to me, as long as there is a party in control to answer for the rockets and negotiate in good faith.
EU.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
AussieReaper
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God Save the Queen wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Extremists with a government wannabe complex?
they were democratically elected into power.
It will be interesting to see what happens come the next election. How free it is, the violence levels leading up to it and also the freedom the opposition candidates are afforded.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina

God Save the Queen wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Extremists with a government wannabe complex?
they were democratically elected into power.
So was Mugabe.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6526|eXtreme to the maX
Probably the least bad govt available to the Palestinians.
Fatah was to weak to deal with the Israelies and couldn't keep control.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6831|'Murka

Looks very much like Hamas consolidating power in Gaza by imprisoning/getting rid of the only group that has any chance of negotiating with Israel on anything.

Hamas continues to show why they are the Palestinians' worst enemy.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Which group is that?
The Israelies just play each group against each other, they have no intention of negotiating in good faith with either.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6831|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

Which group is that?
The Israelies just play each group against each other, they have no intention of negotiating in good faith with either.
Who is "they"? Hamas, Fatah, or the Israelis?

Or are you saying that the Pals negotiate in good faith? Who was it that has broken the recent ceasefire agreement?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
God Save the Queen
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+628|6763|tropical regions of london
dilberts a moron.  the last few posts of his that Ive read have really led me to believe this guy doesnt a have a sound grasp on the facts. 



neocons running the country for the last 12 years

huge US military presence in arabia.



ok buddy, tell me another one but make it with cowboys and indians.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7052|949

The cowboys actually lost the epic battle because now they have to go to Injun casinos to play poker.
God Save the Queen
Banned
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sergeriver wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Extremists with a government wannabe complex?
they were democratically elected into power.
So was Mugabe.
at first.  what are you trying to say, that hamas is corrupt and they will rig future elections.  dont report me for disagreeing with you.


serge.  you are not an idiot.  you are one of the smartest, most objective individuals that contributes here.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-07-27 11:04:21)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina

God Save the Queen wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

they were democratically elected into power.
So was Mugabe.
at first.  what are you trying to say, that hamas is corrupt and they will rig future elections.  dont report me for disagreeing with you.


serge.  you are not an idiot.  you are one of the smartest, most objective individuals that contributes here.
You are the only one here who reported the other guy when I sent you those 9 messages and you felt I was harrasing you (you sent me 10).  I just talked with a mod who asked me what the problem was between you and me since he read the stupid karmas you left me.  So go fuck yourself asshole.

Oh, feel free to report my post, asshole.

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-07-27 11:54:49)

God Save the Queen
Banned
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I did.


so, what did your reply have to do with the OP?  quit trolling your own thread.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-07-27 11:55:22)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina
And I guess you are moron enough not to understand that I don't want you to address my stupid OP's.  I asked you to stay out of my threads but you fucking asshole just can.  I know you and Ken reported me, but I couldn't care less, fuck you.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6970|CH/BR - in UK

Douchebags, fucknuts - basically terrorists. Not corrupt, necessarily. It's just a tough time for Palestinians (as it has been for 50 fucking years), and in dire times people tend to vote for extreme personalities, as they get things done.
I still think they're a bunch of terrorists...

-kon
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6831|'Murka

konfusion wrote:

Douchebags, fucknuts - basically terrorists. Not corrupt, necessarily. It's just a tough time for Palestinians (as it has been for 50 fucking years), and in dire times people tend to vote for extreme personalities, as they get things done.
I still think they're a bunch of terrorists...

-kon
What exactly have those extremist "gotten done"? I mean, other than further worsening the Gazan Pals' lives?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
God Save the Queen
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warranted israeli reciprocity
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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The Israelis wouldn't negotiate properly with Fatah because it was too weak to control Palestine and was run by 'terrorists'.
No there is an organisation in place which is strong enough to control Palestine the Israelis won't negotiate with them either becasue they are run by terrorists.
Hamas is a product of its environment, like Hezbollah, both came into existence solely to counter the Israeli threat to the local people.
Hamas has done quite a bit for the Palestinians at a local level. They can't do much wrt the Israelis as the playing field is so thoroughly skewed.

How many Israeli politicians used to be terrorists? And then there's Sharon....

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-07-28 02:59:20)

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