Anybody has this CPU? If so how are the OC results of this things? I know I can search for reviews, but I want first hand experience from you fine people
So post your OC results pl0x!
So post your OC results pl0x!
An E8500 has absolutely no advantages over the E8400, if you're gonna overclock. That extra .5 multiplier won't matter at all, unless your board is really shit.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
I see what you did thar. I'll check the price listing tomorrow. Getting a P5Q Deluxe as a board, so I guess that small extra multi doesn't eat jack shit, thanks for the advice.Freezer7Pro wrote:
An E8500 has absolutely no advantages over the E8400, if you're gonna overclock. That extra .5 multiplier won't matter at all, unless your board is really shit.
If you can wait for the E8600..that would be great, believe me, well worth it.
Except for the stepping, I still don't see how that little higher multiplier would justify the extra cash intel is gonna take for them. I'd wait for E0 E8400 tbh..Sup wrote:
If you can wait for the E8600..that would be great, believe me, well worth it.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Hit me if I am wrong, but if someone is to McScrooge to buy DDR3 and DDR2 has a max freq of 1066, than even a FSB1333 E8400 would be a waste?
But I am happy you say a 8500 would give no advantage over an E8400, one right decision this month then!
But I am happy you say a 8500 would give no advantage over an E8400, one right decision this month then!
Alright thanks for the advice guise. Checked the prices online and its a 40usd difference... Fucking intel for that 0.5 multi lol. Thanks a lot anyways.Mavik wrote:
Hit me if I am wrong, but if someone is to McScrooge to buy DDR3 and DDR2 has a max freq of 1066, than even a FSB1333 E8400 would be a waste?
But I am happy you say a 8500 would give no advantage over an E8400, one right decision this month then!
Anyone got OC results for E8400?
Well it will get you a 500Mhz OC difference over the E8400. If you want to go well above 4Ghz mark, E8600 is the way to go.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Except for the stepping, I still don't see how that little higher multiplier would justify the extra cash intel is gonna take for them. I'd wait for E0 E8400 tbh..Sup wrote:
If you can wait for the E8600..that would be great, believe me, well worth it.
Source pl0x?.Sup wrote:
Well it will get you a 500Mhz OC difference over the E8400. If you want to go well above 4Ghz mark, E8600 is the way to go.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Except for the stepping, I still don't see how that little higher multiplier would justify the extra cash intel is gonna take for them. I'd wait for E0 E8400 tbh..Sup wrote:
If you can wait for the E8600..that would be great, believe me, well worth it.
No source. Its not even released yet.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Source pl0x?.Sup wrote:
Well it will get you a 500Mhz OC difference over the E8400. If you want to go well above 4Ghz mark, E8600 is the way to go.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Except for the stepping, I still don't see how that little higher multiplier would justify the extra cash intel is gonna take for them. I'd wait for E0 E8400 tbh.
That's just because of the new stepping. The E0 8400 will clock just as good as the E0 8600, the only difference will be the 1x extra multi on the 8600, for which Intel charges an extra $100..Sup wrote:
Well it will get you a 500Mhz OC difference over the E8400. If you want to go well above 4Ghz mark, E8600 is the way to go.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Except for the stepping, I still don't see how that little higher multiplier would justify the extra cash intel is gonna take for them. I'd wait for E0 E8400 tbh..Sup wrote:
If you can wait for the E8600..that would be great, believe me, well worth it.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
And you know it will clock the same how? And I didn't known the price is already known. Can you link me to its price?Freezer7Pro wrote:
That's just because of the new stepping. The E0 8400 will clock just as good as the E0 8600, the only difference will be the 1x extra multi on the 8600, for which Intel charges an extra $100..Sup wrote:
Well it will get you a 500Mhz OC difference over the E8400. If you want to go well above 4Ghz mark, E8600 is the way to go.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Except for the stepping, I still don't see how that little higher multiplier would justify the extra cash intel is gonna take for them. I'd wait for E0 E8400 tbh.
Seeing how Intel charged an additional $80 for the .5 multiplier on the 8500, $100 is the least we should expect the price of the 8600 to be over the 8400..Sup wrote:
And you know it will clock the same how? And I didn't known the price is already known. Can you link me to its price?Freezer7Pro wrote:
That's just because of the new stepping. The E0 8400 will clock just as good as the E0 8600, the only difference will be the 1x extra multi on the 8600, for which Intel charges an extra $100..Sup wrote:
Well it will get you a 500Mhz OC difference over the E8400. If you want to go well above 4Ghz mark, E8600 is the way to go.
As for the clocking, use your brain. An E0 E8400 is identical to an E0 E8600, except for a little laser cut to make one multiplier 9 and the other 10, and a different price tag. Same stepping chips will clock equally.
EDIT: Pricing, seems I was quite accurate, if this store is to believe: E8600, 318AUD, E8400, 199AUD
Although, I'm not betting all my cards on that site.
Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-07-30 15:40:43)
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Use your brain? Wow you really need some manners.
I thought that was common knowledge among people who care about overclocking. Seeing how you run at 4GHz, I count you as one of those. Maybe I should stop doing that, you've let me down several times..Sup wrote:
Use your brain? Wow you really need some manners.
Also, see edit.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
What is common knowledge Freezer? Knowing what the pricing will be? Is that Australian dollars? You do know pricing differs from country to country? You say I've let you down, you sound like Tech God. Your opinion on me is totally irrelevant to me.Freezer7Pro wrote:
I thought that was common knowledge among people who care about overclocking. Seeing how you run at 4GHz, I count you as one of those. Maybe I should stop doing that, you've let me down several times..Sup wrote:
Use your brain? Wow you really need some manners.
Also, see edit.
Of course not the pricing. I was referring to the fact that same stepping CPUs clock very alike..Sup wrote:
What is common knowledge Freezer? Knowing what the pricing will be? Is that Australian dollars? You do know pricing differs from country to country? You say I've let you down, you sound like Tech God. Your opinion on me is totally irrelevant to me.Freezer7Pro wrote:
I thought that was common knowledge among people who care about overclocking. Seeing how you run at 4GHz, I count you as one of those. Maybe I should stop doing that, you've let me down several times..Sup wrote:
Use your brain? Wow you really need some manners.
Also, see edit.
I am very aware of the fact that pricing differs from country to country, but those prices (look at E8400) are very similar to the US price, and who, ever said it was only the US price that counts. The rumoured price is to be $266 US per unit, in 1000-unit batches. That will easily grow to around $300 for a single unit, counting taxes and retailer fees.
The "let me down" part is, that I recall to, on several occasions, have said some things that most tech-savy people would know about, but you haven't. Maybe I didn't word it quite right, my apologies. The point is that you seem to not know some quite basic things in computer hardware.
And there's no need to get all defensive here, I'm not trying to push you down.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Christ Freezer, fuck off with the superior attitude.
Shit.
Shit.
"Superior attitude"? And Sup doesn't have a "superior attitude"?Dauntless wrote:
Christ Freezer, fuck off with the superior attitude.
Shit.
I'm a little annoyed now, yes. It seems Sup is just dodging and jumping here.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Found the thread I was looking for: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p2191179
I said its Vista and you said: "Are you serious? I thought you knew this stuff more than most on this forum."
I know very well what EIST and C1E are but since I had the same issue and disabling those didn't help but changing power saving options did, I suggested he tries it. But no you say I don't know shit about this since I didn't quote you or repeated what you said.
I said its Vista and you said: "Are you serious? I thought you knew this stuff more than most on this forum."
I know very well what EIST and C1E are but since I had the same issue and disabling those didn't help but changing power saving options did, I suggested he tries it. But no you say I don't know shit about this since I didn't quote you or repeated what you said.
That's SpeedStep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedstep# … em_support.Sup wrote:
Found the thread I was looking for: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p2191179
I said its Vista and you said: "Are you serious? I thought you knew this stuff more than most on this forum."
I know very well what EIST and C1E are but since I had the same issue and disabling those didn't help but changing power saving options did, I suggested he tries it. But no you say I don't know shit about this since I didn't quote you or repeated what you said.
Same thing that applies in XP applies in Vista. Without SpeedStep enabled, your OS has no priviliges to change CPU speed.
Could we get back to the point?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
E8600 release 3Q08, E8500 & E8400 drops in price. When I am not sure?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25048 … lines-3q08
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25048 … lines-3q08
Freezer, .sup: You both know jack shit about anything. So stfu!
Only joking!
We all have different knowledge and opinions about different aspects of computing. None of us are The God of Tech. So, just chill. It's all good.
Only joking!
We all have different knowledge and opinions about different aspects of computing. None of us are The God of Tech. So, just chill. It's all good.
I go with freezer on this one. But freezer, same settings does not = same overclock speeds. Sure the % OC is high but will not achieve the same clock. The chips have a lower multi because those are the chips in the batch are a little less quality. Intel makes Core 2 duo chips, not individual E8400 etc. So if a chip is a little bit worst off then the other, it gets shipped off as a cheaper product with lower multi. But in the end, I would say the E8400 is a better bargain
Update:
The prices for E8500 in Taiwan is 190 USD compared to E8400 which is 170usd. Should I go for the E8500? Is the extra 20usd worth it?
The prices for E8500 in Taiwan is 190 USD compared to E8400 which is 170usd. Should I go for the E8500? Is the extra 20usd worth it?