Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85

jord wrote:

It's not normal to risk your life for someone else's, let alone just to stop further decapitation. Your average person will run as far as they can. If it was normal they wouldn't hand out medals for bravery.
Which is what makes them truly mediocre. What is the point of living life for the sake of living life, never doing anything worthwhile?

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
running to the front of the bus is being helpful?
jord
Member
+2,382|7137|The North, beyond the wall.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

jord wrote:

It's not normal to risk your life for someone else's, let alone just to stop further decapitation. Your average person will run as far as they can. If it was normal they wouldn't hand out medals for bravery.
Which is what makes them truly mediocre. What is the point of living life for the sake of living life, never doing anything worthwhile?

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
running to the front of the bus is being helpful?
No that's my philosophy and I'd like to think I'd do something if I could but nobody knows until they're there.

Not that I'd give my life to stop someone who there is a 99% chance is going to die from having their head chopped off. They can have a closed casket funeral and I'll still have my life.

Worthwhile is jumping on a grenade and saving your buddies, not the above.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85

jord wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

jord wrote:

It's not normal to risk your life for someone else's, let alone just to stop further decapitation. Your average person will run as far as they can. If it was normal they wouldn't hand out medals for bravery.
Which is what makes them truly mediocre. What is the point of living life for the sake of living life, never doing anything worthwhile?

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
running to the front of the bus is being helpful?
No that's my philosophy and I'd like to think I'd do something if I could but nobody knows until they're there.

Not that I'd give my life to stop someone who there is a 99% chance is going to die from having their head chopped off. They can have a closed casket funeral and I'll still have my life.

Worthwhile is jumping on a grenade and saving your buddies, not the above.
I can go with that.
iNeedUrFace4Soup
fuck it
+348|7005

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
running to the front of the bus is being helpful?
Help what? Help yourself to a large dose of combat knife to the face?
https://i.imgur.com/jM2Yp.gif
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
running to the front of the bus is being helpful?
Help what? Help yourself to a large dose of combat knife to the face?
Like he was a trained killer in his right mind.
iNeedUrFace4Soup
fuck it
+348|7005

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


running to the front of the bus is being helpful?
Help what? Help yourself to a large dose of combat knife to the face?
Like he was a trained killer in his right mind.
Honestly, I don't think it mattered. The victim was beyond saving by the time anyone knew what was happening and could do anything about it. There was nothing to be gained and everything to be lost by confronting the man. Even the police wouldn't go on the bus and waited for more backup.
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I'm Jamesey
Do a Research Noob
+506|6591|Scotland!

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Which is what makes them truly mediocre. What is the point of living life for the sake of living life, never doing anything worthwhile?
Getting home safely to take care of their parents, or to see their children is more worthwhile than dying to maybe save a stranger who's already suffered a stab wound from a "rambo knife"

Some people have too much responsibilities to be a have a go hero.
iNeedUrFace4Soup
fuck it
+348|7005

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Which is what makes them truly mediocre. What is the point of living life for the sake of living life, never doing anything worthwhile?
Getting home safely to take care of their parents, or to see their children is more worthwhile than dying to maybe save a stranger who's already suffered a 40+ stab wounds from a "rambo knife" to the throat.

Some people have too much responsibilities to be a have a go hero.
https://i.imgur.com/jM2Yp.gif
dtacs
say that 2 my face fucker not online
+126|6294|Australia
Awesome!

Have Any Pics Been Released?
https://battlelog-cdn.battlefield.com/public/profile/bf3/kit-icon-recon.png?v=3173239
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|7036|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Acreta wrote:

Awesome!

Have Any Pics Been Released?
This story is far from awesome, and yes there is some pic of the killer and victime posted in this thread already.
bennisboy
Member
+829|7105|Poundland
Wow, a lot of you guys are beyond belief. The only people that would be remotely helpful in this situation is those that are trained in hand-to-hand combat and disarming. FM, you claim you'd help and that people should be ashamed of themselves for not helping. Trying to be a hero in a situation like that is what gets you killed, then all your family and friends have to suffer, as well as the original victim's. I'm willing to bet that in the situation you would never have the balls to try to help, the strongest human instinct is self preservation. Especially when strangers are involved.
TBH, if I was out and about, saw a knife be taken out, I'd be hitting the ground running as soon as I saw it. Losing your life for someone thats been stabbed that many times in quick succession is a lost cause and waste of life.

Also, I know someone who was with one of his friends, they saw a fight going on across the other side of the road. Only for the guy to realise it was his brother on the ground being stabbed 7 times. Even he was too shocked/scared to run in to help, and that was his brother. You saying you'd do it for a stranger is just stupid, especially with the fact you've had absolutely no training. (BTW the guy's brother survived)
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Which is what makes them truly mediocre. What is the point of living life for the sake of living life, never doing anything worthwhile?
Getting home safely to take care of their parents, or to see their children is more worthwhile than dying to maybe save a stranger who's already suffered a stab wound from a "rambo knife"

Some people have too much responsibilities to be a have a go hero.
Like the responsibilities to his fellow man?

bennisboy wrote:

Wow, a lot of you guys are beyond belief. The only people that would be remotely helpful in this situation is those that are trained in hand-to-hand combat and disarming. FM, you claim you'd help and that people should be ashamed of themselves for not helping. Trying to be a hero in a situation like that is what gets you killed, then all your family and friends have to suffer, as well as the original victim's. I'm willing to bet that in the situation you would never have the balls to try to help, the strongest human instinct is self preservation. Especially when strangers are involved.
TBH, if I was out and about, saw a knife be taken out, I'd be hitting the ground running as soon as I saw it. Losing your life for someone thats been stabbed that many times in quick succession is a lost cause and waste of life.
The strongest animal instinct is self preservation. (in most cases) We think of ourselves as man not beast, but when the time comes to prove it we go right back to our most basic tendancies.

bennisboy wrote:

You saying you'd do it for a stranger is just stupid, especially with the fact you've had absolutely no training. (BTW the guy's brother survived)
lol lots of assumptions

You guys have as much reason to believe I would run away as I know I would try to help. There is no more reason to call me a coward as there is for me to say I would help.

If you were the one being attacked, can any of you honestly say you would not want anyone to at least do something? Do unto others...
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6612|what

It's a fight or flight situation. If you see this guy so coldly kill who is armed with a huge hunting knife you don't have long to weigh up the situation.

If I was armed in anyway or could get some sort of weapon I would've helped. Or at least think I would have.

None of us can be certain how we would have reacted. But getting out of the bus immediately would be a sane choice.

Last edited by TheAussieReaper (2008-08-02 17:21:36)

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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85
For the record I did say I would have had a knife with me, as I'm sure many people there did. My dad always carries a knife with him, as do both of my grandfathers. Not for a weapon or some shit, just because it's a useful tool to have around, but still.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6919|UK
Didn't he kinda scare the people that went back onto the bus then they closed the doors to stop him getting to them?
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7302|Alberta, Canada

wah1188 wrote:

Didn't he kinda scare the people that went back onto the bus then they closed the doors to stop him getting to them?
After he attacked the young guy, he started to go after the rest of the people. They fled the bus and locked him in.
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6946|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,396581,00.html
Police reports say the guy was hacking pieces off and eating them. Sick fuck.
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|6390|Somewhere out in Space
thats faux news for ya, always exaggerating the truth.
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6745|eng
iNeedUrFace4Soup wins this thread.
#rekt
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|6390|Somewhere out in Space
just shoot the fucker eh?
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|7036|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

N00bkilla55404 wrote:

thats faux news for ya, always exaggerating the truth.
Ive heard the audio, its true.
bennisboy
Member
+829|7105|Poundland

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

lol lots of assumptions

You guys have as much reason to believe I would run away as I know I would try to help. There is no more reason to call me a coward as there is for me to say I would help.

If you were the one being attacked, can any of you honestly say you would not want anyone to at least do something? Do unto others...
TBH, unless I was very close to one of them i.e. family or friend, I would expect them to put their life on the line for me. Obviously I'd want someont to help out, but I wouldnt expect them to, there is a difference.
T1g3r217
Perpetual
+124|6881|My room

Kamikaze17 wrote:

and nobody tried to stop him? just let him repeatedly stab the guy... wtf?
People are zebras, man. Scared, selfish little pieces of shit who prefer to stand by and look horrified instead of just restraining a guy. I'm pretty sure that if even two of them had intervened, the guy would still be alive.

Then again, they would be pretty shocked. I mean, you don't expect somebody to just go stabbing someone else. And then he walks up and shows off the head of the guy he just disemboweled and stuff...it'd freak anyone out.

Just depends on how you look at it. People can be cowards without a care for their safety or just temporarily scared out of their wits.

And even then, the difference isn't clear.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85

bennisboy wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

lol lots of assumptions

You guys have as much reason to believe I would run away as I know I would try to help. There is no more reason to call me a coward as there is for me to say I would help.

If you were the one being attacked, can any of you honestly say you would not want anyone to at least do something? Do unto others...
TBH, unless I was very close to one of them i.e. family or friend, I would expect them to put their life on the line for me. Obviously I'd want someont to help out, but I wouldnt expect them to, there is a difference.
So you wouldn't provide the assistance you would want someone else to provide.

If everyone thinks like that, it would be a really shitty world. There have to be people that will help their fellow man at a moment's notice, or society would quickly descend into anarchy. Think about it. If the only people helping others are either paid to do so or family, what really is safety in numbers? What is to stop someone stabbing someone else in the middle of a crowded mall?

Western societies only work because people take at least some small responsibility of everyone else. Without that responsibility, that mutual trust, everything crumbles.
GodFather
Blademaster's bottom bitch
+387|6679|Phoenix, AZ
Canada bus attack leaves man decapitated
bus attack leaves man decapitated
bus attack man decapitated
bus attack



Was anyone else expecting some bus thinking for itself and attacking people in Canada?
(I know it sounds out there, but remember, it is Canada...)

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