What Internet World Wars? Silly Yank.Poseidon wrote:
I was in Internet World Wars I and II. Silly Brit.The Sheriff wrote:
Since when have you been in two wars?Poseidon wrote:
let's see, a marine from two wars and a soldier in the army from 2 wars...
yeah, you can have surgeons. i've got my backup.
It's done on the parent's free will. Usually the family is split as well, one parent working to cover the expenses of training at that level and the other staying with the kid. Personally, I don't think staying with one of my parents while being driven like that would be much of a consolation.Poseidon wrote:
Regardless, while I agree that some families are really hard on their kids who are competing, it's mostly done on free will. They're not taken away from their families and it's not nearly anywhere (at all) as bad as China.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
edit: I see marine has posted videos to this effect. In their defense, I would be suprised if the U.S. was not just as bad if not worse in some cases, some parents being the competitive assholes they are.
i dunno dude. i know the parents in china get money for it and stuff, but if they objected down the road do you think the govt would listen?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It's done on the parent's free will. Usually the family is split as well, one parent working to cover the expenses of training at that level and the other staying with the kid. Personally, I don't think staying with one of my parents while being driven like that would be much of a consolation.Poseidon wrote:
Regardless, while I agree that some families are really hard on their kids who are competing, it's mostly done on free will. They're not taken away from their families and it's not nearly anywhere (at all) as bad as China.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
edit: I see marine has posted videos to this effect. In their defense, I would be suprised if the U.S. was not just as bad if not worse in some cases, some parents being the competitive assholes they are.
Yeah, but if the kid really didn't want to, it's not like they'd be treated as harshly as if a Chinese kid were to do the same,Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It's done on the parent's free will. Usually the family is split as well, one parent working to cover the expenses of training at that level and the other staying with the kid. Personally, I don't think staying with one of my parents while being driven like that would be much of a consolation.Poseidon wrote:
Regardless, while I agree that some families are really hard on their kids who are competing, it's mostly done on free will. They're not taken away from their families and it's not nearly anywhere (at all) as bad as China.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
edit: I see marine has posted videos to this effect. In their defense, I would be suprised if the U.S. was not just as bad if not worse in some cases, some parents being the competitive assholes they are.
Bamboo up the fingernails tbh.
It's not as bad as being waterboarded.Poseidon wrote:
Yeah, but if the kid really didn't want to, it's not like they'd be treated as harshly as if a Chinese kid were to do the same,Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It's done on the parent's free will. Usually the family is split as well, one parent working to cover the expenses of training at that level and the other staying with the kid. Personally, I don't think staying with one of my parents while being driven like that would be much of a consolation.Poseidon wrote:
Regardless, while I agree that some families are really hard on their kids who are competing, it's mostly done on free will. They're not taken away from their families and it's not nearly anywhere (at all) as bad as China.
Bamboo up the fingernails tbh.
Two can make ridiculous claims too.
Probably not. I see it as the difference however between having parents that love you but can't do shit and having a government that forces you to train relentlessly, or having a government that loves you but can't do shit and parents that force you to train relentlessly.usmarine wrote:
i dunno dude. i know the parents in china get money for it and stuff, but if they objected down the road do you think the govt would listen?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It's done on the parent's free will. Usually the family is split as well, one parent working to cover the expenses of training at that level and the other staying with the kid. Personally, I don't think staying with one of my parents while being driven like that would be much of a consolation.Poseidon wrote:
Regardless, while I agree that some families are really hard on their kids who are competing, it's mostly done on free will. They're not taken away from their families and it's not nearly anywhere (at all) as bad as China.
Well your entire argument consists of them, so it's not really a surprise...The Sheriff wrote:
Two can make ridiculous claims too.
D+ST material tbh.
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.Poseidon wrote:
Well your entire argument consists of them, so it's not really a surprise...The Sheriff wrote:
Two can make ridiculous claims too.
it will come out. it just needs time. just like everything in the past.The Sheriff wrote:
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.
thats what she saidusmarine wrote:
it will come out. it just needs time. just like everything in the past.The Sheriff wrote:
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.
pwntDeath_Brinded_Pro wrote:
thats what she saidusmarine wrote:
it will come out. it just needs time. just like everything in the past.The Sheriff wrote:
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.
anyone see the south korean womens weighlifter? buff.
When I said bribing judges I was being facetious.The Sheriff wrote:
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.Poseidon wrote:
Well your entire argument consists of them, so it's not really a surprise...The Sheriff wrote:
Two can make ridiculous claims too.
I've still yet to see you prove that China's not using underage athletes. Considering you're defending them doing so, it's almost like you admit it.
Prove He Kexin is 16. I'd like to see someone try.
hit it and quit itGod Save the Queen wrote:
anyone see the south korean womens weighlifter? buff.
Her passport is more than enough evidence.Poseidon wrote:
When I said bribing judges I was being facetious.The Sheriff wrote:
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.Poseidon wrote:
Well your entire argument consists of them, so it's not really a surprise...
I've still yet to see you prove that China's not using underage athletes. Considering you're defending them doing so, it's almost like you admit it.
Prove He Kexin is 16. I'd like to see someone try.
So gullible.The Sheriff wrote:
Her passport is more than enough evidence.Poseidon wrote:
When I said bribing judges I was being facetious.The Sheriff wrote:
It is you, who claims China use underage athletes, Bribe judges (Which I am yet to see evidence of), not me.
I've still yet to see you prove that China's not using underage athletes. Considering you're defending them doing so, it's almost like you admit it.
Prove He Kexin is 16. I'd like to see someone try.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ … 578241.ece
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijin … ;type=lgns
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/sport … ref=slogin
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Just from the first article, it's all guesses, and the proof is from a "hacker"
"She certainly does not look as if she has reached the minimum competing age of 16. However China says her passport, issued in February, gives her birthday on January 1, 1992, and the International Olympic Committee has said proof from her passport is good enough."
"China “are using half-people”"
"Ms He insists that she is of age. Asked by journalists about the debate, she said: “My real age is 16. I don’t care what other people say. I want other people to know that 16 is my real age.”"
Hardcore proof right there.
"She certainly does not look as if she has reached the minimum competing age of 16. However China says her passport, issued in February, gives her birthday on January 1, 1992, and the International Olympic Committee has said proof from her passport is good enough."
"China “are using half-people”"
"Ms He insists that she is of age. Asked by journalists about the debate, she said: “My real age is 16. I don’t care what other people say. I want other people to know that 16 is my real age.”"
Hardcore proof right there.
Yes, her passport, totally non-doctored, is quote proof. Honestly, Surgeon...stop being so gullible.The Sheriff wrote:
Just from the first article, it's all guesses, and the proof is from a "hacker"
"She certainly does not look as if she has reached the minimum competing age of 16. However China says her passport, issued in February, gives her birthday on January 1, 1992, and the International Olympic Committee has said proof from her passport is good enough."
"China “are using half-people”"
"Ms He insists that she is of age. Asked by journalists about the debate, she said: “My real age is 16. I don’t care what other people say. I want other people to know that 16 is my real age.”"
Hardcore proof right there.
Yeah, and I can say I'm the POTUS, doesn't mean I actually am.
I could say you have doctored you passport and you're infact 11, I found it in a spreadsheet, I discovered this when I hacked google, because I'm a computer expert.Poseidon wrote:
Yes, her passport, totally non-doctored, is quote proof. Honestly, Surgeon...stop being so gullible.The Sheriff wrote:
Just from the first article, it's all guesses, and the proof is from a "hacker"
"She certainly does not look as if she has reached the minimum competing age of 16. However China says her passport, issued in February, gives her birthday on January 1, 1992, and the International Olympic Committee has said proof from her passport is good enough."
"China “are using half-people”"
"Ms He insists that she is of age. Asked by journalists about the debate, she said: “My real age is 16. I don’t care what other people say. I want other people to know that 16 is my real age.”"
Hardcore proof right there.
Yeah, and I can say I'm the POTUS, doesn't mean I actually am.
"Ms He's father admitted to AP reporters that she is indeed 14 years of age and thus, technically ineligble to compete in the Olympic Games"
anyone who thinks she is 16 has a life of potential pedo charges in their future.
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I'm pretty sure Sheriff is being sarcastic.
Difference is that I don't look like I'm 12, and I'm 5'11", and I don't have a hormone problem which would cause that.The Sheriff wrote:
I could say you have doctored you passport and you're infact 11, I found it in a spreadsheet, I discovered this when I hacked google, because I'm a computer expert.Poseidon wrote:
Yes, her passport, totally non-doctored, is quote proof. Honestly, Surgeon...stop being so gullible.The Sheriff wrote:
Just from the first article, it's all guesses, and the proof is from a "hacker"
"She certainly does not look as if she has reached the minimum competing age of 16. However China says her passport, issued in February, gives her birthday on January 1, 1992, and the International Olympic Committee has said proof from her passport is good enough."
"China “are using half-people”"
"Ms He insists that she is of age. Asked by journalists about the debate, she said: “My real age is 16. I don’t care what other people say. I want other people to know that 16 is my real age.”"
Hardcore proof right there.
Yeah, and I can say I'm the POTUS, doesn't mean I actually am.
Nor has my government tried to hide the fact (if I was) that I'm underage.
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You're right, you look 11.Poseidon wrote:
Difference is that I don't look like I'm 12, and I'm 5'11", and I don't have a hormone problem which would cause that.The Sheriff wrote:
I could say you have doctored you passport and you're infact 11, I found it in a spreadsheet, I discovered this when I hacked google, because I'm a computer expert.Poseidon wrote:
Yes, her passport, totally non-doctored, is quote proof. Honestly, Surgeon...stop being so gullible.
Yeah, and I can say I'm the POTUS, doesn't mean I actually am.