ATG
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Muslims regard Jesus as a prophet.
Christians regard Muhammad as a terrorist.


Based on this alone, one could argue the Muslims have a more evolved and less prejudiced view.

Discuss.
ghettoperson
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That kind of depends on which Christians you talk to. Right wing American super Christians would say Muhammed was, yes. However more rational Christians would tell you he's an Islamic prophet. I'm sure were Jesus not a part of the Muslim faith he'd be pretty unpopular amongst followers of Islam as well.
Bell
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Shitty quality but, 43 seconds in.



Goes both ways tbh

Martyn
ghettoperson
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Bell wrote:

Shitty quality but, 43 seconds in.



Goes both ways tbh

Martyn
LOL
DesertFox-
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ATG wrote:

Muslims regard Jesus as a prophet.
Christians regard Muhammad as a terrorist.


Based on this alone, one could argue the Muslims have a more evolved and less prejudiced view.

Discuss.
Thes "Christians" are who, exactly? The organizational view and/or Biblical/scholarly views or the average schnook to whom Muhammad, a Muslim, and a terrorist all look exactly the same?
JahManRed
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Rational Christians see Muhammad as the Prophet of Islam. A peaceful religion with, like all religions, a small minority of extremists using it as an excuse to further their twisted version of said teachings.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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ATG wrote:

Muslims regard Jesus as a prophet.
Christians regard Muhammad as a terrorist.


Based on this alone, one could argue the Muslims have a more evolved and less prejudiced view.

Discuss.
How many people did Jesus order killed?

Discuss
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AussieReaper
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Kmarion wrote:

How many people did Jesus order killed?

Discuss
I don't know but did you see the way he tore through that marketplace, knocking everyone's tables over?

What a lunatic.
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Kmar
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

How many people did Jesus order killed?

Discuss
I don't know but did you see the way he tore through that marketplace, knocking everyone's tables over?

What a lunatic.
They should have crucifie... nm.
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Thorax
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Religion in general is a bunch of bullshit.  It's near-lunacy the shit they believe.
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
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Thorax wrote:

Religion in general is a bunch of bullshit.  It's near-lunacy the shit they believe.
Indeed, More on topic...I dont believe that Islam if better than Christian, like Kmarion said, How many peoeple did jesus ordered to be killed?

Also, jesus a prophet...Ok...But dont forget...we are all Infidels tho!
IRONCHEF
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Ok, I'ma break it down for you since ATG seems like he's on a religious quest of sorts lately...

We're going to take it back to the days of Abraham.  Abraham's wife couldn't have kids so he had a child through one of his handmaidens Hagar.  His primary wife was unable to have children.  Abraham had Ishmael through Hagar as his first son.  Then the Lord blessed Abraham and Sarai (his 1º wife) with a son, Isaac.  THe Lord blessed Abraham to be the father of many nations..through his posterity all the nations of the world would be blessed with God's priesthood and authority.   Ishmael was a naughty boy, as was his mother.  Isaac inherited the birthright from Ishmael and inherited all of the blessings of Abraham.  Ishmael and Hagar left the family.  But because of the blessing given to Abraham that the earth shall be populated with Abraham's seed, Ishmael's posterity grew abundantly.  Isaac's family grew abundantly too.  Soon Isaac begat Jacob and of course Jacob (Israel) had 10 sons +2 and of course they are those who fled from Egypt with Moses to Canaan and settled and filled the earth.  2 tribes remained in Israel (Judah and Benjamin) while the other 10 tribes were taken captive into Iraq (Babylon), then around 500ish b.c. they were released..but never returned.  It was said they fled northward..where with the blessing of Abraham, they flourished and filled the earth.

So we got two sets of people growing and filling the earth..the seed of Abraham, and the Gentiles.  Abraham's seed, being blessed by God with the authority to act in his name, eventually have Jesus be born through it, end the old covenant, and start the new covenant (christianity) through Jesus..the population grows..as does Christianity.  On the other side, the false prophet Mohammed started the faith that occupies the other half of Abraham's seed..the Ishmaelites.

In Islam, they respect Jesus as a prophet as he is the seed of Abraham.  They don't like Jews because they are the fallen people from what I gather..and because they killed the prophet Jesus..something like that.  BUt of course, like Christians to Jesus, they adhere to the religion Mohammed started.  And as rich in symbolism this whole story is, the parallels and such, it seems as though these two religions are doomed to oppose each other as long as the world stands. 

So yeah, there ya go.  That's my take on the two warring peoples which are the seed of Abraham.  Meanwhile, the gentiles (non-christian/jew/muslim) are also well established in practices so distant from christianity/islam/judaism and mostly isolated from the seed of Abraham, which is to be expected (asian countries).

As a Christian, I'm proud to be an Infidel!

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-08-10 09:35:10)

Turquoise
O Canada
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The most evolved view is not having a religion at all.
Stingray24
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Ah yes, the ever popular "atheists are smarter than religious people".

Compare Jesus and Mohammad in history and you'll find Jesus is far more peaceful.
Turquoise
O Canada
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Stingray24 wrote:

Ah yes, the ever popular "atheists are smarter than religious people".

Compare Jesus and Mohammad in history and you'll find Jesus is far more peaceful.
Sorry, I had to.    But seriously, I would agree with you on the Jesus thing.  I'd much sooner be a Christian than a Muslim.  Islam would be last on my list of major religions to convert to.

The main reason I say all this is because, for the most part, I agree with Christian morality -- the actual teachings of Christ rather than the hateful bullshit that is too often practiced by many so-called Christians.

Despite my jabs at religion, I do have to admit that, deep down, I do actually respect the Christians that practice what they preach.  I even have a few friends that fit this description.  So far as I can tell, Stingray, you seem to be one as well.  We just disagree on a lot (including faith of course).
Catbox
forgiveness
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would you rather be a westerner lost in the middle east and walk up to an islamist's door for help
or be an islamist lost in a western country and walk up to a door in an all christian area to ask for help...

  i'm gonna say it might be safer to be the islamic guy walking up to the door of the christians house...

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2008-08-07 18:40:31)

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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

would you rather be a westerner lost in the middle east and walk up to an islamist's door for help
or be an islamist lost in a western country and walk up to a door in an all christian area to ask for help...

  i'm gonna say it might be safer to be the islamic guy walking up to the door of the christians house...
If your situation was actually fair and it was a fundementalist christian, then I would rather not.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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What religion you are within the confines of Judeo-Christianity is so irrelevant if you take half a step backwards. It's all very close, and as with all religions (including atheism) it is much more about who you are talking to than what they label themselves as.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6880|UK

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

would you rather be a westerner lost in the middle east and walk up to an islamist's door for help
or be an islamist lost in a western country and walk up to a door in an all christian area to ask for help...

  i'm gonna say it might be safer to be the islamic guy walking up to the door of the christians house...
I was in Morocco for two weeks an Islamic country I'm still alive. Can't be that bad can it?
Babb Master Flash
Justice for the 96!
+540|6801|Oslo, Norway
Budism > all of the remaining religions.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

How many people did Jesus order killed?

Discuss
I don't know but did you see the way he tore through that marketplace, knocking everyone's tables over?

What a lunatic.
Because that's as bad as the shit that Muhammad did....lol

What always gets me is how alot of the USA Christians are hardcore capitalists and shit, yet Jesus, as the marketplace shit showed us, was somewhat of a hardcore communist/socialist. They would've probably called Jesus a commie and killed him had they been alive during those times. Maybe that's why the Jews hated him, you know how they like money/business
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina
Jesus is the third most important prophet for Islam and Muhammad is a piece of shit for Christianity, so ATG's point is kinda right.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7048|IRELAND

There was a party of about 20 Muslims on the beach in my town at the weekend in full dress.
My dog ran over and shit half her body weight right in the middle of their group of toddlers. She does that to christian groups to. So according to my dog there is no difference.
Just thought id share that.
mikkel
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

would you rather be a westerner lost in the middle east and walk up to an islamist's door for help
or be an islamist lost in a western country and walk up to a door in an all christian area to ask for help...

  i'm gonna say it might be safer to be the islamic guy walking up to the door of the christians house...
I'd rather be a westerner lost in the Middle East. If you had seen both sides of the bush, perhaps you'd revise your rhetoric.
Beduin
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dont blame the relgion.. blame the people of both sides.
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