link52787
Member
+29|6789
Well, I had two 150gb Raptors in RAID 0 for several months.  This morning it decided to fail.  One of my Raptors died, so its a paper weight. 

Thankfully, I already had half of my data backed up on disks a couple of weeks ago so it wasn't a total loss. 

Anybody here had RAID 0 fail on them?  The performance increase was greater when I had it at RAID 0 but I really regret it.

Now I have to look for another hard drive.  Sucks.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6835|NYC / Hamburg

I run a RAID0 array for my Server/HTPC temp work folder. Makes extracting rars and repairing with par files much quicker. Works great that way for me.

I used to run a RAID0 as my windows boot partition, I did make daily automatic backups of it though. If one of the drives had failed, I could be up and running within an hour again. Also I never saved any important data to that array.

EDIT: Since my dads wanted speed on his system disk I set up a raid5 for him. Nearly as fast but will survive one drive dieing.

Last edited by max (2008-08-13 02:02:06)

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jamiet757
Member
+138|6890
I have my C drive on 4 raptors in RAID 0 and my data on 2 160gb drives in RAID 0. I use an external HDD to backup my stuff every few weeks. I have never had any failures, it is possible that you just had a bad drive.

How exactly did it "die"?

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-08-13 05:07:23)

link52787
Member
+29|6789

jamiet757 wrote:

I have my C drive on 4 raptors in RAID 0 and my data on 2 160gb drives in RAID 0. I use an external HDD to backup my stuff every few weeks. I have never had any failures, it is possible that you just had a bad drive.

How exactly did it "die"?
Before it died, it started to make really loud clicking noise.  When it was seeking, it would make a screech noise.  Not a loud screech noise but audible enough to hear.
jamiet757
Member
+138|6890
Well that should be a sign that you need to back up your drives and get a new one. Have you tried putting it in the freezer, it might give you a bit of time to back up the raid array.
Drykill
I Like Waffles.
+47|6960|England
I don't regret using RAID 0, faster speed = thumbs up. I've had it fail once but somehow managed to recover it by deleting the RAID volume and making a new one then use the Windows DVD to correct the boot files. It loaded the OS and everything was still on it so got lucky there. Yea it might fail but if you loose all your data because you didn't back it up its your own fault.
jamiet757
Member
+138|6890

Drykill wrote:

I don't regret using RAID 0, faster speed = thumbs up. I've had it fail once but somehow managed to recover it by deleting the RAID volume and making a new one then use the Windows DVD to correct the boot files. It loaded the OS and everything was still on it so got lucky there. Yea it might fail but if you loose all your data because you didn't back it up its your own fault.
Truth. Even people without a RAID array should backup their data, I have no sympathy for those who whine and complain because they lost their pictures or something, I have lost my share of stuff, now I back it up regularly.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6849|SE London

I've used RAID0 arrays in many circumstances and have often had cause to regret it. Sometimes that extra transfer speed is great though. It makes a lot of stuff more awkward, is twice as likely to fail and in general decreases your hard drive performance (longer access times, which are what you tend to notice most). I did have a RAID0 array in my file server (which I have complete external backups of anyway) and that was great for serving big files over my home network, but that you're unlikely to notice much unless running a Gigabit LAN. Now I use a RAID5 in that - not for extra data security, but because it's easy to pull out failing drives and swap a new one in - whereas with RAID0 that's a pain in the arse.


RAID0 is a real pain when (not if) it goes wrong.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6761|N. Ireland
Yes - it's as simple as that.

Thankfully, SMART had predicted the error and I got all important files backed up ... but it was such a pain. Ironically, I still have it (RAR extractions and that) but the extra speed is pretty pointless really. Get a single drive, or RAID5 if you want RAID0 performance without the drawbacks.
link52787
Member
+29|6789

jamiet757 wrote:

Drykill wrote:

I don't regret using RAID 0, faster speed = thumbs up. I've had it fail once but somehow managed to recover it by deleting the RAID volume and making a new one then use the Windows DVD to correct the boot files. It loaded the OS and everything was still on it so got lucky there. Yea it might fail but if you loose all your data because you didn't back it up its your own fault.
Truth. Even people without a RAID array should backup their data, I have no sympathy for those who whine and complain because they lost their pictures or something, I have lost my share of stuff, now I back it up regularly.
I always back up my data every month.  I got caught with my pants down.

I don't have an extra hdd so I back up on DVD disks.  Right now I have over 250gb worth of stuff on disks, its alot more work but I trust having a disk more than a hdd to backup my data.

If I am going back to RAID 0, I'd better get another hard drive.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6941|Maine
So, does RAID0 actually make your drives more prone to failure? I know that if one dies, you = fuckz0red...but does it make each drive more susceptible to failing?
Brasso
member
+1,549|6898

CrazeD wrote:

So, does RAID0 actually make your drives more prone to failure? I know that if one dies, you = fuckz0red...but does it make each drive more susceptible to failing?
afaik no
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6849|SE London

CrazeD wrote:

So, does RAID0 actually make your drives more prone to failure? I know that if one dies, you = fuckz0red...but does it make each drive more susceptible to failing?
No. But obviously the chance of the array failing is double that of a single drive failing.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6941|Maine
Of course.

I just hear a lot of horror stories with RAID0. Given that most hard drives last several years, it didn't make sense to me that RAID0 arrays regularly failed in less than a year. Must be bad luck then?
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6629|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
ive been running RAID 0 for four years now, no problems
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7034|Cambridge (UK)
I run my OS install(s) off a striped-pair, and even my most bloated XP install boots in under 1min on a AthlonXP 3200+ with SATA150 HDDs.

And, touch wood, crossed fingers, etc, it's not failed yet.

But I'd never, never, never, EVER put data on a RAID0 striped-pair.
link52787
Member
+29|6789

CrazeD wrote:

So, does RAID0 actually make your drives more prone to failure? I know that if one dies, you = fuckz0red...but does it make each drive more susceptible to failing?
In my situation, one of my hdd died but not because of RAID .  If something goes wrong, then the RAID setup will go down.  Doesn't mean your hdd will end up like mine.

Last edited by link52787 (2008-08-13 15:12:40)

mnishimura00
I ruin Wake Island for everybody.
+15|6451
Yes, i have had RAID 0 on my old computer 4 times.  it failed 4 times, erasing everything on the disks.  Unfortunately, I opted out of backing up my data the first two times.  I had two 80gb WD hds.  I later found out that one drive was faulty and was replaced.  When I set it up for the 5th time, I decided to just run 2 separate drives.  it ran well like that until i retired the computer due to a part out.

I have a new computer now, I do not plan on ever using RAID 0 again due to my bad experience with it.  Although, when it worked, it was blazing fast.
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|6199|Somewhere out in Space
This is the risk that people go through when they want faster file retrieval, but in the end every single hard drive ever made has the possibility of failing, and you cant blame it solely on the type of drive when it does go.

TL;DR shit luck

Last edited by N00bkilla55404 (2008-08-13 18:34:08)

jsnipy
...
+3,277|6790|...

Raid 0 is daring.

I did 1+0,  no troubles yet. But I tested it by removing a drive and substituting it ... worked great.
Volatile
Member
+252|6972|Sextupling in Empire

link52787 wrote:

Now I have to look for another hard drive.  Sucks.
Those raptors have a 5 year warranty. Call WD, give them your  serial, and in 2 days you'll have a replacement.

Well, I've never dealt with WD, but that's how it is for seagate.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6941|Maine

Volatile wrote:

link52787 wrote:

Now I have to look for another hard drive.  Sucks.
Those raptors have a 5 year warranty. Call WD, give them your  serial, and in 2 days you'll have a replacement.

Well, I've never dealt with WD, but that's how it is for seagate.
2 days?

I took me at least 2 weeks to get a replacement from Seagate...
Volatile
Member
+252|6972|Sextupling in Empire

CrazeD wrote:

Volatile wrote:

link52787 wrote:

Now I have to look for another hard drive.  Sucks.
Those raptors have a 5 year warranty. Call WD, give them your  serial, and in 2 days you'll have a replacement.

Well, I've never dealt with WD, but that's how it is for seagate.
2 days?

I took me at least 2 weeks to get a replacement from Seagate...
I paid the $20 for the 2 day shipping and sent the broken one back in the box they sent.

*Or actually, it might have been overnight. I can't remember.

Last edited by Volatile (2008-08-13 19:22:06)

link52787
Member
+29|6789

Volatile wrote:

link52787 wrote:

Now I have to look for another hard drive.  Sucks.
Those raptors have a 5 year warranty. Call WD, give them your  serial, and in 2 days you'll have a replacement.

Well, I've never dealt with WD, but that's how it is for seagate.
whew.  I checked my warranty status and I am covered until 2011. 

I thought these things only have a 2 year warranty.  Bought these in 2006, thought it expired.

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