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The red giant reminds the west that it controls its internet

China is known for its aggressive online stances. It maintains a national firewall to block pages it deems offensive. It removes any information that calls the state into question -- say evidence that it forged its young gymnasts passports. Those found violating its internet restrictions are often jailed.
It has recently spied on its guests' internet connections at the Beijing Olympics according to reports. And if U.S. military officials are to be believed, it has been committing hacking assaults against the U.S. government online.

Now China has yet again demonstrated it will not tolerate dissent on its internet networks. On Monday China's many internet users began to notice that they were unable to download songs from the popular Apple service iTunes.

Then someone noticed that was the day after Art of Peace Foundation announced the release of "Songs for Tibet," with music by Sting, Alanis Morissette, Garbage and others along with a 15-minute talk by the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan leader. Now Michael Wohl, executive director of the New York City-based group, claims he has inside information on why iTunes has mysteriously malfunctioned on Chinese networks.

Mr. Wohl states in a phone interview, "We issued a release saying that over 40 (Olympic) athletes downloaded the album in an act of solidarity, and that's what triggered it. Then everything got blocked."

While Beijing supports internet use and contact with the outside world for business and educational purposes, it has not tolerated online material concerning Tibet. China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology refused to comment on the iTunes prohibition. An unnamed spokeswoman for the Ministry of Public Security said she has no information on the topic.

Apple, based in Cupertino, California, has confirmed reports that something is afoot. Huang Yuna, an Apple spokeswoman in Beijing states, "We are aware of the logon problems but we have no comment at the moment."

She would not comment on how many of Apple's Chinese customers were affected. The problem is widespread according to online postings. On macfans.com.cn, a Chinese site for Apple fans, one user writes, "It seems like suspending iTunes is punishment for iTunes, but really it doesn't hurt iTunes, it hurts us."

Mr. Wohl has stated that his 20-song album was offered free-of-charge to Olympians. He says that athletes from the United States, Canada, Britain, Spain, France and Australia all made a statement by participating in the download. He acknowledges, "Some in Beijing did download, and I think that's what spooked the Chinese government."

He would not disclose the athletes participating, for fear of retribution by the International Olympic Committee or the Chinese government. He says he does not believe Apple gave consent for the denial of service. He said Apple offered no complaints about his group’s album. He states, "They're incredibly supportive people. They wouldn't do anything like that. They support freedom of speech and freedom of expression."

China has the world's most internet users with 253 million people online. The U.S. is a close second with 223.1 million as of June. The iPod is wildly popular in China, despite users having to log onto U.S. sites in order to U.S. iTunes. There is no China-specific version of iTunes.
I think I'm gonna download some Tibet themed albums.
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jord
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D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
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Wow.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6873|The Twilight Zone

jord wrote:

D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
I wasn't accepted in the Elite club.
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aerodynamic
FOCKING HELL
+241|6173|Roma

jord wrote:

D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
Not a news really, I mean cmon, we all know how it all works.

and you really do have a hatred toward apple.

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jord
Member
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aerodynamic wrote:

jord wrote:

D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
Not a news really, I mean cmon, we all know how it all works.

and you really do have a hatred toward apple.
I don't hate Apple. There just an obsolete company. You can get music for free and you can get better computers for cheaper. What's the point in Apple if you're straight?
aerodynamic
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I'm sorry but if I want to spend money on a mac why would you care? its my money. And where can you get music for free?
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jord
Member
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aerodynamic wrote:

I'm sorry but if I want to spend money on a mac why would you care? its my money. And where can you get music for free?
I don't care that much, but like I said in the only other thread I've ever ripped on Apple. If I save one person money then I'll feel it was worth it.

You can listen to music for free on youtube.
You can download music for free on any number of sites and P2P networks.
aerodynamic
FOCKING HELL
+241|6173|Roma
I mean why would Itunes be worse than Winamp or Windows Media Player or what ever you use? Whats so bad about it?
It has a nice and simple design, and its very intuitive and its not very hard to use, rather easy.
And no you do not have to buy music online, the program doesn't force you to buy them.

What if that person wants to buy a mac because he wants it? you are influencing him to buy something else that he doesn't want to.
People who buy Macs now buy them because they want a Mac, its NOT becasue they are brainwashed or they are fanboys, almost all of the people in the world (except probably North Korea and some other countries) know this Apple vs every body else argument, which occures in every forum ,every website, every chat etc. So they know what they are buying.

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liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|7047|UK

aerodynamic wrote:

I mean why would Itunes be worse than Winamp or Windows Media Player or what ever you use? Whats so bad about it?
It has a nice and simple design, and its very intuitive and its not very hard to use, rather easy.
And no you do not have to buy music online, the program doesn't force you to buy them.

What if that person wants to buy a mac because he wants it? you are influencing him to buy something else that he doesn't want to.
It's banned because of the music that can be downloaded from it.
.Sup
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+2,646|6873|The Twilight Zone

aerodynamic wrote:

I mean why would Itunes be worse than Winamp or Windows Media Player or what ever you use? Whats so bad about it?
It has a nice and simple design, and its very intuitive and its not very hard to use, rather easy.
And no you do not have to buy music online, the program doesn't force you to buy them.

What if that person wants to buy a mac because he wants it? you are influencing him to buy something else that he doesn't want to.
But a nice design doesn't mean anything if the player produces poor audio quality. I have been experimenting with digital audio players and for audio Apollo is the best.
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oChaos.Haze
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jord wrote:

aerodynamic wrote:

I'm sorry but if I want to spend money on a mac why would you care? its my money. And where can you get music for free?
I don't care that much, but like I said in the only other thread I've ever ripped on Apple. If I save one person money then I'll feel it was worth it.

You can listen to music for free on youtube.
You can download music for free on any number of sites and P2P networks.
Dude, the whole pirating music era was because cd's were too damn expensive.  Now they've made them cheaper and they've made it so you don't have to buy a whole album if you only like one song.  Is .99 really too much to pay?  I'm just asking this as a musician who has music on Itunes, lol.

I don't even like Apple's, but they are superior for certain functions.  I'd never be the guy who bought an apple to surf the internetz and blog about how good my starbucks is, but if I were opening my own studio, you bet your ass I'd have a Mac in that shit...

On topic, Big Red seems to love an old fashioned censoring every week or so...

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aerodynamic
FOCKING HELL
+241|6173|Roma

oChaos.Haze wrote:

On topic, Big Red seems to love an old fashioned censoring every week or so...
Its so cliche now days.
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jord
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oChaos.Haze wrote:

jord wrote:

aerodynamic wrote:

I'm sorry but if I want to spend money on a mac why would you care? its my money. And where can you get music for free?
I don't care that much, but like I said in the only other thread I've ever ripped on Apple. If I save one person money then I'll feel it was worth it.

You can listen to music for free on youtube.
You can download music for free on any number of sites and P2P networks.
Dude, the whole pirating music era was because cd's were too damn expensive.  Now they've made them cheaper and they've made it so you don't have to buy a whole album if you only like one song.  Is .99 really too much to pay?  I'm just asking this as a musician who has music on Itunes, lol.

I don't even like Apple's, but they are superior for certain functions.  I'd never be the guy who bought an apple to surf the internetz and blog about how good my starbucks is, but if I were opening my own studio, you bet your ass I'd have a Mac in that shit...

On topic, Big Red seems to love an old fashioned censoring every week or so...
.99 is too much to pay when I could have it for free in less than 10 clicks of my mouse... But good luck with your music.
Deadmonkiefart
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jord wrote:

oChaos.Haze wrote:

jord wrote:


I don't care that much, but like I said in the only other thread I've ever ripped on Apple. If I save one person money then I'll feel it was worth it.

You can listen to music for free on youtube.
You can download music for free on any number of sites and P2P networks.
Dude, the whole pirating music era was because cd's were too damn expensive.  Now they've made them cheaper and they've made it so you don't have to buy a whole album if you only like one song.  Is .99 really too much to pay?  I'm just asking this as a musician who has music on Itunes, lol.

I don't even like Apple's, but they are superior for certain functions.  I'd never be the guy who bought an apple to surf the internetz and blog about how good my starbucks is, but if I were opening my own studio, you bet your ass I'd have a Mac in that shit...

On topic, Big Red seems to love an old fashioned censoring every week or so...
.99 is too much to pay when I could have it for free in less than 10 clicks of my mouse... But good luck with your music.
Downloading music for free is ILLEGAL.  In addition to that, some of us have morals.
jord
Member
+2,382|7098|The North, beyond the wall.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

jord wrote:

oChaos.Haze wrote:


Dude, the whole pirating music era was because cd's were too damn expensive.  Now they've made them cheaper and they've made it so you don't have to buy a whole album if you only like one song.  Is .99 really too much to pay?  I'm just asking this as a musician who has music on Itunes, lol.

I don't even like Apple's, but they are superior for certain functions.  I'd never be the guy who bought an apple to surf the internetz and blog about how good my starbucks is, but if I were opening my own studio, you bet your ass I'd have a Mac in that shit...

On topic, Big Red seems to love an old fashioned censoring every week or so...
.99 is too much to pay when I could have it for free in less than 10 clicks of my mouse... But good luck with your music.
Downloading music for free is ILLEGAL.  In addition to that, some of us have morals.
Yeah I have morales too, don't rape, don't murder, etc.

I don't care if downloading music is illegal. Okay?

Fuck internet morales.
.Sup
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Deadmonkiefart wrote:

jord wrote:

oChaos.Haze wrote:


Dude, the whole pirating music era was because cd's were too damn expensive.  Now they've made them cheaper and they've made it so you don't have to buy a whole album if you only like one song.  Is .99 really too much to pay?  I'm just asking this as a musician who has music on Itunes, lol.

I don't even like Apple's, but they are superior for certain functions.  I'd never be the guy who bought an apple to surf the internetz and blog about how good my starbucks is, but if I were opening my own studio, you bet your ass I'd have a Mac in that shit...

On topic, Big Red seems to love an old fashioned censoring every week or so...
.99 is too much to pay when I could have it for free in less than 10 clicks of my mouse... But good luck with your music.
Downloading music for free is ILLEGAL.  In addition to that, some of us have morals.
Downloading porn is illegal too you know.
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jord
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.Sup wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

jord wrote:


.99 is too much to pay when I could have it for free in less than 10 clicks of my mouse... But good luck with your music.
Downloading music for free is ILLEGAL.  In addition to that, some of us have morals.
Downloading porn is illegal too you know.
Yes but masturbation is morally wrong, so that doesn't apply to him.
.Sup
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+2,646|6873|The Twilight Zone

jord wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:


Downloading music for free is ILLEGAL.  In addition to that, some of us have morals.
Downloading porn is illegal too you know.
Yes but masturbation is morally wrong, so that doesn't apply to him.
haha lol he must be suffering right now (sex is also wrong, we must have sex only when making babies)
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Uzique
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Talking to strangers is also wrong for the majority of this Forum so what the hell are you all doing here?!?.

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.Sup
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Uzique wrote:

Talking to strangers is also wrong for the majority of this Forum so what the hell are you all doing here?!?.

Mums think they are asleep. No one will know.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6825|North Carolina
In capitalist China, ITunes listens to you.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6603|Ireland

.Sup wrote:

jord wrote:

D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
I wasn't accepted in the Elite club.
With threads like this you won't make the remedial club.
ATG
Banned
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

.Sup wrote:

jord wrote:

D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
I wasn't accepted in the Elite club.
With threads like this you won't make the remedial club.
Speak for your self DCB.
.Sup
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

.Sup wrote:

jord wrote:

D&ST tbh.

Also Lol Itunes...
I wasn't accepted in the Elite club.
With threads like this you won't make the remedial club.
Threads? Or did you mean posts cos i don't see anything wrong with my thread.
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