According to you she also has more experience at running government than McCain. So why isnt she the number 1 on the ticket?OrangeHound wrote:
So, basically you are saying that the Republican VP candidate has more experience at running governments than does Obama? Yeah, that's true ...Varegg wrote:
What are her merits ? ... 2 years as governor and prior to that mayor for 9000 people in a town in Alaska that nobody has ever heard about ...
She has little or no foreign policy experience
He's not fucked. He's just now in a position to tell Obama to gtfo with his "new approach" (which amounted to about 95% of the reason to vote for him). Although bringing a 35 year Washington insider on as his VP did that anyways.Spearhead wrote:
According to McCain, thats why Obama SHOULDNT have beaten Hillary Clinton. Now he's fucked.Kmarion wrote:
She's a fresh face.. outside of of the same tired Washington (ineffective) bureaucracy. Remember thats why we should vote for Obama? I'm loving it . foot>mouthVaregg wrote:
I think Obamas chance to become president increased drastically when Palin was announced as VP, i would almost say he got his presidency gift wrapped and handed to him by a silly old man ...
What are her merits ? ... 2 years as governor and prior to that mayor for 9000 people in a town in Alaska that nobody has ever heard about ...
She has little or no foreign policy experience and with a 72 year old Potus that can leave office from natural causes before his term is up you risk having a former miss Alaska contestant with a limited political experience as president ... bad move McCain, very bad ...
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I think you are taking a loss for a win. But we'll see.
She's also from one of the smallest states population wise. Even though she's a governer its not saying much.
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Everyone's politcal views aside, who do you guys think is gonna win? Don't go on your own thought's.
The Dems highlight the weakness of their candidate with any criticism of Sara Palin. Good move, McCain.
Obama is going to win.
Wasn't Palin investigated by some department of justice?
Wasn't Palin investigated by some department of justice?
Do you think it is pure chance that the GOP waited for the Dems to make their pick and have their convention? I don't think so. The GOP political machine is rolling full speed ahead.Stingray24 wrote:
The Dems highlight the weakness of their candidate with any criticism of Sara Palin. Good move, McCain.
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Yea, if Obama can survive his Ayers connection I think Palin will survive her firing of a government employee.nukchebi0 wrote:
Obama is going to win.
Wasn't Palin investigated by some department of justice?
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I think it was pure genius. McCain would have had a slim chance if he would have picked another old white guy. Him picking a woman was the only he could compete...because now, he is making history too...see?
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I laughed my ass off at his pick. I loved it!
This pretty much puts Obama and all of his CHANGE bullshit ( that still hasn't been revealed) out to pasture, and removes all wind from those already old ass sails.
She is a woman so their are the man hater votes, she is a conservative, so there are the conservative votes, she is from Alaska so there are the tree hugger votes, she is pro-gun so there are the gun owner votes. She is pretty good lookin so there are shallow votes. ( Hey if you can vote for Obama because he is black I can vote for McCain because he has a hot running mate.
This pretty much puts Obama and all of his CHANGE bullshit ( that still hasn't been revealed) out to pasture, and removes all wind from those already old ass sails.
She is a woman so their are the man hater votes, she is a conservative, so there are the conservative votes, she is from Alaska so there are the tree hugger votes, she is pro-gun so there are the gun owner votes. She is pretty good lookin so there are shallow votes. ( Hey if you can vote for Obama because he is black I can vote for McCain because he has a hot running mate.
Oh lord.Kmarion wrote:
He's not fucked. He's just now in a position to tell Obama to gtfo with his "new approach" (which amounted to about 95% of the reason to vote for him). Although bringing a 35 year Washington insider on as his VP did that anyways.Spearhead wrote:
According to McCain, thats why Obama SHOULDNT have beaten Hillary Clinton. Now he's fucked.Kmarion wrote:
She's a fresh face.. outside of of the same tired Washington (ineffective) bureaucracy. Remember thats why we should vote for Obama? I'm loving it . foot>mouth
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I think you are taking a loss for a win. But we'll see.
She's also from one of the smallest states population wise. Even though she's a governer its not saying much.
Anyone who knows anything about Joe Biden knows hes a great guy who is not just the average politician. Obamas bringing a new direction. The only reason Palin was picked is because 1. She's a woman, and 2. She's got a clean track record.
Compared to McCain, Obama, or Biden she has practically zero experience. Obama served in the state legislature in Illinois.
It's funny to see all you guys and stingray saying this actually hurts Obama somehow. How, exactly? McCain fucking did a 180 turn. COMPLETELY. Within two weeks.
I like you Kmarion and you're a smart dude but I think you're very wrong on this one. The Republicans realized that they can't stop Obama, especially when he's got Joe Biden backing him up with foreign policy and defense experience, which is the only thing Obama lacks. Biden is NOT the same kind of politician as Hillary or whoever the fuck else, regardless of what the righties are trying to make him out to be.
So the only thing left was to act like they can bring the change that the Dems are looking for, and its apparently working. GG HF GOP propaganda machine. Apparently when you cant swift boat someone you just act like your fighting for the same thing they are, only more of it. rofl.
Dont even compare Barack Obama to Sarah Palin. TBH it makes you look like an idiot. You obviously dont even know the two people. The fact they are both fresh and new does not make them comparable.Stingray24 wrote:
The Dems highlight the weakness of their candidate with any criticism of Sara Palin. Good move, McCain.
It's kinda sad that the polls have Virginia as a dead tie, considering it was Bush with an 8 point lead there in both '04 and '00.
If he can get either VA, OH or FL (McCain's lead plummeted the past few weeks there...only 1.2 points up now), he's got it.
If he can get either VA, OH or FL (McCain's lead plummeted the past few weeks there...only 1.2 points up now), he's got it.
Go ahead and let Obama rip her lack of experience ... I'll watch andSpearhead wrote:
Dont even compare Barack Obama to Sarah Palin. TBH it makes you look like an idiot. You obviously dont even know the two people. The fact they are both fresh and new does not make them comparable.Stingray24 wrote:
The Dems highlight the weakness of their candidate with any criticism of Sara Palin. Good move, McCain.
You don't get it, do you?Stingray24 wrote:
Go ahead and let Obama rip her lack of experience ... I'll watch andSpearhead wrote:
Dont even compare Barack Obama to Sarah Palin. TBH it makes you look like an idiot. You obviously dont even know the two people. The fact they are both fresh and new does not make them comparable.Stingray24 wrote:
The Dems highlight the weakness of their candidate with any criticism of Sara Palin. Good move, McCain.
It's about McCain being a hypocrite. Bashing Obama for his lack of experience and then picking someone as a VP with even less.
Makes absolutely no sense.
I still stand by my proclamation that Bloomberg would be the ultimate VP for him, but that'd never happen.
Oh lord.Spearhead wrote:
Oh lord.Kmarion wrote:
He's not fucked. He's just now in a position to tell Obama to gtfo with his "new approach" (which amounted to about 95% of the reason to vote for him). Although bringing a 35 year Washington insider on as his VP did that anyways.Spearhead wrote:
According to McCain, thats why Obama SHOULDNT have beaten Hillary Clinton. Now he's fucked.
I think you are taking a loss for a win. But we'll see.
She's also from one of the smallest states population wise. Even though she's a governer its not saying much.
Anyone who knows anything about Joe Biden knows hes a great guy who is not just the average politician. Obamas bringing a new direction. The only reason Palin was picked is because 1. She's a woman, and 2. She's got a clean track record.
Compared to McCain, Obama, or Biden she has practically zero experience. Obama served in the state legislature in Illinois.
It's funny to see all you guys and stingray saying this actually hurts Obama somehow. How, exactly? McCain fucking did a 180 turn. COMPLETELY. Within two weeks.
I like you Kmarion and you're a smart dude but I think you're very wrong on this one. The Republicans realized that they can't stop Obama, especially when he's got Joe Biden backing him up with foreign policy and defense experience, which is the only thing Obama lacks. Biden is NOT the same kind of politician as Hillary or whoever the fuck else, regardless of what the righties are trying to make him out to be.
So the only thing left was to act like they can bring the change that the Dems are looking for, and its apparently working. GG HF GOP propaganda machine. Apparently when you cant swift boat someone you just act like your fighting for the same thing they are, only more of it. rofl.
Some of us actually know better. How can you sit there and preach about how you (Obama) never supported the war and then put someone on your ticket who did? It looks like Mr. Judgment has got quite the predicament. The Junior senator lacks in every area. I'm sorry but that's just an undeniable fact. Tbh I like Obama. But that's not going to blind me into ignoring the areas he lacks in. Actually, at least Palin has had some experience in commanding a military force (the AK national guard). It's not much, but more than Barry O'. Biden is the same type of Washington politician, they come in many varieties. One of those varieties is a pompous screaming party loyalist.
<3 u2 .
PS: Do I reallly need to start point out Obama's 180's?
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10 bucks says Obama is kicking his own ass for not dragging Hitlery along for the ride.Spearhead wrote:
Oh lord.Kmarion wrote:
He's not fucked. He's just now in a position to tell Obama to gtfo with his "new approach" (which amounted to about 95% of the reason to vote for him). Although bringing a 35 year Washington insider on as his VP did that anyways.Spearhead wrote:
According to McCain, thats why Obama SHOULDNT have beaten Hillary Clinton. Now he's fucked.
I think you are taking a loss for a win. But we'll see.
She's also from one of the smallest states population wise. Even though she's a governer its not saying much.
Anyone who knows anything about Joe Biden knows hes a great guy who is not just the average politician. Obamas bringing a new direction. The only reason Palin was picked is because 1. She's a woman, and 2. She's got a clean track record.
Compared to McCain, Obama, or Biden she has practically zero experience. Obama served in the state legislature in Illinois.
It's funny to see all you guys and stingray saying this actually hurts Obama somehow. How, exactly? McCain fucking did a 180 turn. COMPLETELY. Within two weeks.
I like you Kmarion and you're a smart dude but I think you're very wrong on this one. The Republicans realized that they can't stop Obama, especially when he's got Joe Biden backing him up with foreign policy and defense experience, which is the only thing Obama lacks. Biden is NOT the same kind of politician as Hillary or whoever the fuck else, regardless of what the righties are trying to make him out to be.
So the only thing left was to act like they can bring the change that the Dems are looking for, and its apparently working. GG HF GOP propaganda machine. Apparently when you cant swift boat someone you just act like your fighting for the same thing they are, only more of it. rofl.
Besides, if "CHANGE" is what is needed, why can't McCain/Palin bring it? Better to vote for them than to vote for Obama because OPRAH said so.
The Dems want it both ways lowing.
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Nah its you who wants it both waysKmarion wrote:
The Dems want it both ways lowing.
I'll respond later gonna play some 2142 to vent my anger and frustration that you guys are buying into this stuff
Is it as hypocritcal as Biden slamming Obama and his lack of experience during his campaign, the nstand there and say he is the one who needs to be president.Poseidon wrote:
You don't get it, do you?Stingray24 wrote:
Go ahead and let Obama rip her lack of experience ... I'll watch andSpearhead wrote:
Dont even compare Barack Obama to Sarah Palin. TBH it makes you look like an idiot. You obviously dont even know the two people. The fact they are both fresh and new does not make them comparable.
It's about McCain being a hypocrite. Bashing Obama for his lack of experience and then picking someone as a VP with even less.
Makes absolutely no sense.
I still stand by my proclamation that Bloomberg would be the ultimate VP for him, but that'd never happen.
The best things now are McCains commericals using Hillary and Biden slamming Obama...I love love love it.
Yes, that's why he CHOSE Biden, so he could help him IN THAT AREA!lowing wrote:
Is it as hypocritcal as Biden slamming Obama and his lack of experience during his campaign, the nstand there and say he is the one who needs to be president.Poseidon wrote:
You don't get it, do you?Stingray24 wrote:
Go ahead and let Obama rip her lack of experience ... I'll watch and
It's about McCain being a hypocrite. Bashing Obama for his lack of experience and then picking someone as a VP with even less.
Makes absolutely no sense.
I still stand by my proclamation that Bloomberg would be the ultimate VP for him, but that'd never happen.
The best things now are McCains commericals using Hillary and Biden slamming Obama...I love love love it.
Obama chose Biden to help him in areas he lacked.
McCain chose Palin to get votes.
Shows you who's really interested in helping the country.
I actually don't care. But i can appreciate the strategy. I have defended Obama plenty here also.Spearhead wrote:
Nah its you who wants it both waysKmarion wrote:
The Dems want it both ways lowing.
I'll respond later gonna play some 2142 to vent my anger and frustration that you guys are buying into this stuff
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lol... Well, my prediction turned out correct, but that is a pretty funny conclusion to draw when looking at Cindy.OrangeHound wrote:
When I first saw this, all I can think of is that McCain likes his trophy babes.
I wonder if Sarah will be McCain's Monica... lol
After reading up on Paulin, I have to say that McCain made a good choice. Palin has a good track record as well as doing what is best for her state. Her reformation of several Alaskan committees puts her in a good light. If it came down between Obama and McCain (I am still heavily for Ron Paul) then I would choose McCain because of Palin.
So would she be better off being a senator from one of the smallest states population and size wise? i.e. Joe Biden, Senator of DelewareSpearhead wrote:
She's also from one of the smallest states population wise. Even though she's a governer its not saying much.
Edit ---> On a side note, I kinda wish she was running for President instead of McCain.
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That's my view ... I don't even want McCain on the Pub ticket at all. I think McCain and Obama are both very poor choices, and Biden should make a Dem's skin crawl (VP?????? The public hates him for President, clearly from the primaries).Spearhead wrote:
According to you she also has more experience at running government than McCain. So why isnt she the number 1 on the ticket?OrangeHound wrote:
So, basically you are saying that the Republican VP candidate has more experience at running governments than does Obama? Yeah, that's true ...Varegg wrote:
What are her merits ? ... 2 years as governor and prior to that mayor for 9000 people in a town in Alaska that nobody has ever heard about ...
She has little or no foreign policy experience