And a jackass.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Bush was a former Governor.sergeriver wrote:
I think a former Governor would be a better choice, but neither McCain nor Obama are.lowing wrote:
lol, ok so you are saying McCain shouldn't be president because he has too much experience, and Obama should be president because...........because......huh????
Polls are bullshit, not everyone bothers with them and also some people who say they are voting for Obama aren't actually voting for him. Also the media is pissing off feminists because of Palin's situation with her daughter which means McCain will get at least a little more votes from feminists.TrueMusou wrote:
Where do you get your figures from? Are there concrete polls that shows the more conservatives are voting McCain because of the VP pick?War Man wrote:
Even Hillary's old supporters who originally didn't go for McCain will vote for him. Don't know what you mean about Oprah though.Spark wrote:
But will it be less than the people driven off?War Man wrote:
Actually many conservatives are going to vote for McCain because of his vp pick, if McCain went for Romney many people would be staying at home.
And why has lowing suddenly become obsessed with Oprah? Really odd.
Is there evidence that shows that Hilary's old supporters are going to McCain? Or are you pulling these claims from the bottom of the well of lost hope?
He's been dealing with a lot of issues in the senate, what has Obama done? Be a community organizer? WTF is that?sergeriver wrote:
Why is McCain more experienced? Just coz he's older or *cough* white *cough*?lowing wrote:
Who do you think made Obama the shinning star he is now? Obama is most definately Oprah bitch...check the net, you will find NOTHING that states Oprah has not been a nmajor influence in his marketablity and his exposure. She has to, he hasn't done dick as a 173 day old sentaor to warrant any other exposure or achievment to gain experience for the presidency.Spark wrote:
But will it be less than the people driven off?
And why has lowing suddenly become obsessed with Oprah? Really odd.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
I see, so ALL you are hearing is how bad her speech was? Well I know that is a lie.oChaos.Haze wrote:
Fact? Is that why all I've seen is reporting on how bad she came off? Her speech was worse than a 5th graders, content wise. Anyone who looks at things analytically would realize she could easily have no capability of running the country.lowing wrote:
well yer the only one, in FACT the only thing anyone could come up with about her speech afterward was,,,,she didn't write it herself, as if Oprah, or Biden or anyone else writes their own speeches.oChaos.Haze wrote:
While I llaughed at her speech, she said NOTHING about the issues, about what she can, has, or will do. I'm with you Kmarion. First time I heard he took her, I thought it was a beautiful ploy. I had never heard about her, but the thought of a female governor running with McCain seemed like a master stroke. Then I heard her speak and realized she is just a former beauty queen who knows nothing. Her speech even reminded me of a pageant winner who talks after they won. They way she gave shout outs to her family like it was a wedding was utterly ridiculous. I believe this election is going to go exactly how Rupert predicted now.
And about her comment on Obama, call me crazy, but I think that comparing being a mayor of a small town in Alaska to ANYTHING is moot and ridiculous. Being a hot dog vendor in Chicago requires more skill than being a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
COMMUNITY ORGANIZER! DUH!lowing wrote:
I see, so ALL you are hearing is how bad her speech was? Well I know that is a lie.oChaos.Haze wrote:
Fact? Is that why all I've seen is reporting on how bad she came off? Her speech was worse than a 5th graders, content wise. Anyone who looks at things analytically would realize she could easily have no capability of running the country.lowing wrote:
well yer the only one, in FACT the only thing anyone could come up with about her speech afterward was,,,,she didn't write it herself, as if Oprah, or Biden or anyone else writes their own speeches.
And about her comment on Obama, call me crazy, but I think that comparing being a mayor of a small town in Alaska to ANYTHING is moot and ridiculous. Being a hot dog vendor in Chicago requires more skill than being a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?lowing wrote:
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?lowing wrote:
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
I don't even know what he is talking about.lowing wrote:
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?lowing wrote:
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
GO FUCK YOURSELFAt least 60 seconds have to pass between posts. Please wait a little while and try posting again.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Then that makes all 3 of us.War Man wrote:
I don't even know what he is talking about.lowing wrote:
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?GO FUCK YOURSELFAt least 60 seconds have to pass between posts. Please wait a little while and try posting again.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoints … ka_ind.phplowing wrote:
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?lowing wrote:
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
http://abelharding.wordpress.com/2008/0 … nt-alaska/
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … -frin.html
I see now, good post. I am all for states rights over a huge central govt. controlling my life. Where do I sign up.TheAussieReaper wrote:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoints … ka_ind.phplowing wrote:
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?
http://abelharding.wordpress.com/2008/0 … nt-alaska/
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … -frin.html
Now I know for sure I will vote for McCain/Palin.... Small central govt.
Palin was in the Alaska Independent party, which advocates seccession from the USA. Imagine if Biden or Obama had been in a party like that...... your face would have melted by now from all the crap coming out of it.lowing wrote:
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?lowing wrote:
Also here is another bit of info, she is the governor of Alaska, she WAS a mayor of a small town in Alaska.
What was Obama before a senator for half of a year?
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yeah she was a member 15 years ago.....lets not forget that her husband got a DUI 22 years ago.Spearhead wrote:
Palin was in the Alaska Independent party, which advocates seccession from the USA. Imagine if Biden or Obama had been in a party like that...... your face would have melted by now from all the crap coming out of it.lowing wrote:
lolTheAussieReaper wrote:
Well Obama didn't want to segregate Illinois from the rest of the US, did he?
Hey, here is the thing, she had an agenda during that time that was pro Alaska, not the nation. She did what she thought would be in the best interest of Alaska. no big deal. Now she is in a postion where she thinks about more than just her state.
Alaska has issues no other state deals with. So for a person to explore options in the best interest of their state is fine by me. Like I said, SMALL govt.
lets also not forget Obama belonged to a radical racist church a few weeks ago, while running for president.
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So if Obama were in the Illinois Independence Party 15 years ago, and it advocated seccession, you would say the same thing? I think not lowing. But have it your way, you always do, no matter what anyone tells you.lowing wrote:
yeah she was a member 15 years ago.....lets not forget that her husband got a DUI 22 years ago.Spearhead wrote:
Palin was in the Alaska Independent party, which advocates seccession from the USA. Imagine if Biden or Obama had been in a party like that...... your face would have melted by now from all the crap coming out of it.lowing wrote:
lol
Hey, here is the thing, she had an agenda during that time that was pro Alaska, not the nation. She did what she thought would be in the best interest of Alaska. no big deal. Now she is in a postion where she thinks about more than just her state.
Alaska has issues no other state deals with. So for a person to explore options in the best interest of their state is fine by me. Like I said, SMALL govt.
2 can play at this game. A few weeks ago Palin didnt even know what the VP does.lowing wrote:
lets also not forget Obama belonged to a radical racist church a few weeks ago, while running for president.
She was also heavy handed as a mayor. Have you read how she tried banning books from the public library? Small govt.... hahaha Alaska is a small state. The US is a big country.
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Actually, no I wouldn't have a problem with it. If he was advocating states rights over a controlly central govt. I would be all for it.Spearhead wrote:
So if Obama were in the Illinois Independence Party 15 years ago, and it advocated seccession, you would say the same thing? I think not lowing. But have it your way, you always do, no matter what anyone tells you.lowing wrote:
yeah she was a member 15 years ago.....lets not forget that her husband got a DUI 22 years ago.Spearhead wrote:
Palin was in the Alaska Independent party, which advocates seccession from the USA. Imagine if Biden or Obama had been in a party like that...... your face would have melted by now from all the crap coming out of it.
Hey, here is the thing, she had an agenda during that time that was pro Alaska, not the nation. She did what she thought would be in the best interest of Alaska. no big deal. Now she is in a postion where she thinks about more than just her state.
Alaska has issues no other state deals with. So for a person to explore options in the best interest of their state is fine by me. Like I said, SMALL govt.
Don't you find it a little funny how someone who wanted to leave the United States 15 years later might be running it? Doesnt say much about her character imo.lowing wrote:
Actually, no I wouldn't have a problem with it. If he was advocating states rights over a controlly central govt. I would be all for it.
A few years ago Obama wasn't even a political figure, now he is going t obe president.Spearhead wrote:
2 can play at this game. A few weeks ago Palin didnt even know what the VP does.lowing wrote:
lets also not forget Obama belonged to a radical racist church a few weeks ago, while running for president.
She was also heavy handed as a mayor. Have you read how she tried banning books from the public library? Small govt.... hahaha Alaska is a small state. The US is a big country.
No I haven't read she was trying to ban books, you might have something there I don't like........link please.
Nope, she wants a strong state govt. Alaska being interested in solving Alaskas issues, that no other state knows or gives a shit about. I have no problem with it.Spearhead wrote:
Don't you find it a little funny how someone who wanted to leave the United States 15 years later might be running it? Doesnt say much about her character imo.lowing wrote:
Actually, no I wouldn't have a problem with it. If he was advocating states rights over a controlly central govt. I would be all for it.
you guys are funny. nobody knows how to truly do something until they fucking do it. it should be some sort of internship program so to speak (spare me the monica jokes mkay)
Obama is well qualified, if you've read his history. Middle class kid with one mom (as opposed to McCain, son of an admiral) kid grew up and made it to Harvard Law School (president of Harvard Law Review publication, alumni include Antonin Scalia, John Roberts, Michael Chertoff). Political experience doesn't always mean "qualified".lowing wrote:
A few years ago Obama wasn't even a political figure, now he is going t obe president.Spearhead wrote:
2 can play at this game. A few weeks ago Palin didnt even know what the VP does.lowing wrote:
lets also not forget Obama belonged to a radical racist church a few weeks ago, while running for president.
She was also heavy handed as a mayor. Have you read how she tried banning books from the public library? Small govt.... hahaha Alaska is a small state. The US is a big country.
No I haven't read she was trying to ban books, you might have something there I don't like........link please.
You may not like the source but here's the story
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/natio … on=emailed
It'd be hard for the liberal media to fabricate something this specific out of midair, if you ask me.
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You know secede means.... leave the USA right?lowing wrote:
Nope, she wants a strong state govt. Alaska being interested in solving Alaskas issues, that no other state knows or gives a shit about. I have no problem with it.Spearhead wrote:
Don't you find it a little funny how someone who wanted to leave the United States 15 years later might be running it? Doesnt say much about her character imo.lowing wrote:
Actually, no I wouldn't have a problem with it. If he was advocating states rights over a controlly central govt. I would be all for it.
Now she's going to be in the number 2 position?
"No other state knows or gives a shit about", sums up her resume for me tbh.
Yeah and I guess in Obamas case, NO experience is best huh?Spearhead wrote:
Obama is well qualified, if you've read his history. Middle class kid with one mom (as opposed to McCain, son of an admiral) kid grew up and made it to Harvard Law School (president of Harvard Law Review publication, alumni include Antonin Scalia, John Roberts, Michael Chertoff). Political experience doesn't always mean "qualified".lowing wrote:
A few years ago Obama wasn't even a political figure, now he is going t obe president.Spearhead wrote:
2 can play at this game. A few weeks ago Palin didnt even know what the VP does.
She was also heavy handed as a mayor. Have you read how she tried banning books from the public library? Small govt.... hahaha Alaska is a small state. The US is a big country.
No I haven't read she was trying to ban books, you might have something there I don't like........link please.
You may not like the source but here's the story
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/natio … on=emailed
It'd be hard for the liberal media to fabricate something this specific out of midair, if you ask me.
Now, I am off to read your link, be back in a second.
Well you've got to hand it to him, defeating the Clinton dynasty is a political achievement all on its on. Plus he's a senator..... elected by a state. Just like Palin was. And don't say "executive experience", because McCain has zero executive experience too.lowing wrote:
Yeah and I guess in Obamas case, NO experience is best huh?
Yeah I know what secede means and it was such a threat that it actually made the news..........NOWHERE. It was a statement the party was making, nothing more.Spearhead wrote:
You know secede means.... leave the USA right?lowing wrote:
Nope, she wants a strong state govt. Alaska being interested in solving Alaskas issues, that no other state knows or gives a shit about. I have no problem with it.Spearhead wrote:
Don't you find it a little funny how someone who wanted to leave the United States 15 years later might be running it? Doesnt say much about her character imo.
Now she's going to be in the number 2 position?
"No other state knows or gives a shit about", sums up her resume for me tbh.
As for yuor link, this I do not like at all. Iunderstand the loyalty question thing, but to see a need t oban books for any reason is not the path I want my govt. to take. I will see what happens over the next few months about her. Thanks for the link
Spearhead, he got pushed as far as he did with the help of Oprah and nothing more.Spearhead wrote:
Well you've got to hand it to him, defeating the Clinton dynasty is a political achievement all on its on. Plus he's a senator..... elected by a state. Just like Palin was. And don't say "executive experience", because McCain has zero executive experience too.lowing wrote:
Yeah and I guess in Obamas case, NO experience is best huh?
If you wanna compare McCains 22 years of service to Obamas 173 days, I guess we can do that, but I don't really think you wanna.