lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

lowing wrote:

ATG wrote:


I think not.
Ok time to show my PC ( uhhhh personal computer) ignorance........what does control C and control V do?
copy and paste
Ohhh.

Funny how I can not a single person wh owas riding the bash lowing band wagon earlier challenge my post. Instead all I get is the Sarah Palin ""well, lets not forget she had a speech writer" bullshit. figures
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7066
I was making a joke.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6602|Ireland
I am a Moderat Radical.  Hear that, I'm a fucking morad that hates the government and loves the country. 

Nobody who actually loves this country could support this treasonist government unless they are a radical liberal like GS the Queen.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7094|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Ok time to show my PC ( uhhhh personal computer) ignorance........what does control C and control V do?
copy and paste
Ohhh.

Funny how I can not a single person wh owas riding the bash lowing band wagon earlier challenge my post. Instead all I get is the Sarah Palin ""well, lets not forget she had a speech writer" bullshit. figures
Because no one cares.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6948|Global Command

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I am a Moderat Radical.  Hear that, I'm a fucking morad that hates the government and loves the country. 

Nobody who actually loves this country could support this treasonist government unless they are a radical liberal like GS the Queen.
Shouldn't something be done about a treasonous government?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

copy and paste
Ohhh.

Funny how I can not a single person wh owas riding the bash lowing band wagon earlier challenge my post. Instead all I get is the Sarah Palin ""well, lets not forget she had a speech writer" bullshit. figures
Because no one cares.
I see, you just care enough to make numerous posts describing your opinion of me personally for my beliefs, but can not be bothered to defend that postition. typicial

Last edited by lowing (2008-09-08 05:49:24)

usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7181

Spark wrote:

Because no one cares.
and i get accused of being the only one liner.   lulz.


Mr. HOF everyone!
PureFodder
Member
+225|6705
@ Lowing

For all your talk about how awful the unemployed are, did you know that most western governments actually have policies to ensure something around 5% of the available workforce (not including those who can't work) is kept unemployed.

When you hear on the news that interest rates have been increased to prevent inflation, that means that the government (or in the US case the FED) has decided to increase interest rates in order to try and make a load of people lose their jobs. The reasoning is that if unemployment gets low enough, employers will struggle to find replacement workers, meaning that the current employees can easily make demands for increased wages, benefits, conditions etc. This is very bad for business owners as their wage costs will begin to shoot up leading to inflations and wage spirals. The solution is to try and get companies to fire more workers by upping interest rates. This increases the number of unemployed meaning that the employer can easily replace low skilled workers and they are therefore not in a position to do anything but accept whatever pay the employer is willing to offer.

Whereas you can blame people for being in the 5% that don't have a job, you can't claim that the fact that there is unemployment is entirely because the unemployed aren't trying hard enough. It's government policy to ensure that they remain unemployed. If all the unemployed did get a job, it would literally cripple the economy of that country. However hard everyone works there will always be around 5% unemployment. This is why the rich should spend some of their money looking after the poor. If they didn't, and forced them all to get jobs, they'd be ruined. Supporting the unemployed is a really good deal for employers.

see 'non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment' or 'Nairu' for more details.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

PureFodder wrote:

@ Lowing

For all your talk about how awful the unemployed are, did you know that most western governments actually have policies to ensure something around 5% of the available workforce (not including those who can't work) is kept unemployed.

When you hear on the news that interest rates have been increased to prevent inflation, that means that the government (or in the US case the FED) has decided to increase interest rates in order to try and make a load of people lose their jobs. The reasoning is that if unemployment gets low enough, employers will struggle to find replacement workers, meaning that the current employees can easily make demands for increased wages, benefits, conditions etc. This is very bad for business owners as their wage costs will begin to shoot up leading to inflations and wage spirals. The solution is to try and get companies to fire more workers by upping interest rates. This increases the number of unemployed meaning that the employer can easily replace low skilled workers and they are therefore not in a position to do anything but accept whatever pay the employer is willing to offer.

Whereas you can blame people for being in the 5% that don't have a job, you can't claim that the fact that there is unemployment is entirely because the unemployed aren't trying hard enough. It's government policy to ensure that they remain unemployed. If all the unemployed did get a job, it would literally cripple the economy of that country. However hard everyone works there will always be around 5% unemployment. This is why the rich should spend some of their money looking after the poor. If they didn't, and forced them all to get jobs, they'd be ruined. Supporting the unemployed is a really good deal for employers.

see 'non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment' or 'Nairu' for more details.
ummmmmmmm links please to this offical govt. policy.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7082|USA
liberals are smarter than conservatives.
PureFodder
Member
+225|6705

lowing wrote:

ummmmmmmm links please to this offical govt. policy.
http://www.fmcenter.org/site/pp.asp?c=8 … p;b=235972
http://www.exponentialimprovement.com/c … braith.pdf
http://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2008/03/t … ing-rates/
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hTwV … t#PPA95,M1
And if you look at the FED's blurb about itself you'll see that it's aims are to minimize unemployment and provide price stability. The point of this ttheory is that you simply can't have zero unemployment and maintaind price stability.

From the cleveland federal reserve bank...
http://www.clevelandfed.org/research/co … 8/0501.pdf
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina
Hi.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6602|Ireland

ATG wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I am a Moderat Radical.  Hear that, I'm a fucking morad that hates the government and loves the country. 

Nobody who actually loves this country could support this treasonist government unless they are a radical liberal like GS the Queen.
Shouldn't something be done about a treasonous government?
They should be voted out in a democracy.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6961|Texas - Bigger than France
It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina

Pug wrote:

It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
Like GWB?
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7112

Pug wrote:

It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
Especially if you hope to score with that hot hippy chick in your lit class. Or w/e.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6710|Éire

Pug wrote:

It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
There is something of a trend in that regard these days... but having said that a lot of people on the right use that as a convenient catch-all dismissal for arguments against US Government policy that are often entirely valid and worthy of serious consideration.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-09-08 07:43:49)

Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6961|Texas - Bigger than France

sergeriver wrote:

Pug wrote:

It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
Like GWB?
No, you?
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6939|Πάϊ
The ginger speaks the truth.
ƒ³
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6961|Texas - Bigger than France

Braddock wrote:

Pug wrote:

It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
There is something of a trend in that regard these days... but having said that a lot of people on the right use that as a convenient catch-all dismissal for arguments against US Government policy that are often entirely valid and worthy of serious consideration.
I've been trying to read this...

Perhaps a better way to express it is to superimpose Palin's head on a white-trash swimsuit model and make a Youtube video?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina

Pug wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Pug wrote:

It's cool to be liberal and hate America.
Like GWB?
No, you?
Nah.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

ummmmmmmm links please to this offical govt. policy.
http://www.fmcenter.org/site/pp.asp?c=8 … p;b=235972
http://www.exponentialimprovement.com/c … braith.pdf
http://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2008/03/t … ing-rates/
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hTwV … t#PPA95,M1
And if you look at the FED's blurb about itself you'll see that it's aims are to minimize unemployment and provide price stability. The point of this ttheory is that you simply can't have zero unemployment and maintaind price stability.

From the cleveland federal reserve bank...
http://www.clevelandfed.org/research/co … 8/0501.pdf
Interesting, I still failed to see where the govt. maintains this as purposely keeping people out of work. I see it more along the lines that it is a given that some people simply will not work and that number is used in its formulas. Now, if you can give some examples as where the govt. has gone out of their way to purposely keep an educated person with credentials of achievement from working because they have a quota to maintain, I am all ears.

I have never met one person in my life that told me they couldn't get a job they were qualified for because of the govt. Wait, I take that back, I forgot about affirmative action.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA
all of a sudden a light switch has been turned on and all the bash lowing roaches ran for the woodwork again.....No challenges, how sad.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6961|Texas - Bigger than France
I challenge your right to refer to yourself in the third person.

That's reserved for people like Tom Cruise and anybody who's been a cast member of Seinfeld.
El Beardo
steel woolly mammoth
+150|6139|Gulf Coast

PEOPLE = FAIL
always have, always will

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