killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6857|Reisterstown, MD

Why is New Zealand so expensive in regards to pc parts?
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Too many RMA's caused by static electricity
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6999|St. Andrews / Oslo

Cheez wrote:

Too many RMA's caused by static electricity
lulz
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Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|6987|Scotland

Jenspm wrote:

molotov<bf2> wrote:

i disagree more VA yes, but the Watts are the same. if your components demand 200W, you draw 200W.
The best PSUs have an efficiency of just over 80%, iirc.
which is pretty awesome if you know about electromagneticity.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

- Q9300 is awesome.
- If (quite probably) your mobo won't take a 45nm quadcore CPU, I say either P5Q or P5E.
- For PSU i recommend Corsair HX620. It has plenty of power for any imaginable setup. And it's silent, modular and long-lasting quality. TX750 is good too if you pfere picking it, but the extra power is hardly needed, and modular PSUs are
- For Graphics card it all depends on your budget and needs. If you only need it for gaming, the best bet would be ATI HD4-series. HD4850, HD4870, or even HD4870X2. If you want to take advantage of CUDA, nvidia is the only choice. clicky to learn about CUDA. While for now ATI cards are better for the price, the future might favor CUDA and thus nvidia. Also if you fold nvidia is the way to go. Nvidia cards to consider are 9800GTX+, GTX260core216 (enchanged version of the GTX260 that beats it with not much price added) and even GTX280 if you want to burn some money.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-09-23 07:23:39)

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Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

killer21 wrote:

Why is New Zealand so expensive in regards to pc parts?
Well location mostly - being located at the arse-end of the planet doesn't help. The rest is due to market restrictions which is why I'm hoping one day a FTA is arranged between NZ and the US.

ANYWAY, thanks everyone for your advice, I appreciate it a lot. Sucks that I may have to get a new mobo, (my computer guy hasn't got back to me,) but on the flip-side thanks for making me aware of it. In terms of GPUs I'll probably get a 9800GTX as DU suggests, I'm not all that willing to spend everything on a GPU like a GTX 280 - but then again I may feel more impulsive when I've finalised everything.

Cheers.
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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Have you tried CPU-Z yet? Because that can tell us straight away
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

Okay my computer guy got back to me.
This is my current motherboard.
Does someone want to tell me about it? I know a bit about things like CPUs and GPUs and a few other things but I'm not that hot when it comes to motherboards. It's a learning process.

This is, (basically,) my computer:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Bar … ctName=M3S

Edit: Bugger, I think I need to add a new MoBo to my shopping list. Any suggestions? I'd prefer to go Gigabyte.
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kylef
Gone
+1,352|6760|N. Ireland
The good is that your motherboard supports all the latest Core 2 (or 4 for that matter) Processors; the bad thing is that it can only take RAM up to 667MHz and ideally you'll want 800MHz at least - if not higher. Gigabyte do make other (read: better) motherboards so take a look in Newegg and find which one would suit you best.
Wallpaper
+303|6261|The pool

kylef wrote:

The good is that your motherboard supports all the latest Core 2 (or 4 for that matter) Processors; the bad thing is that it can only take RAM up to 667MHz and ideally you'll want 800MHz at least - if not higher. Gigabyte do make other (read: better) motherboards so take a look in Newegg and find which one would suit you best.
No it doesnt support Quads or Duos. Look at the right column, the ones with N/A next to them arent compatible.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

Wallpaper wrote:

kylef wrote:

The good is that your motherboard supports all the latest Core 2 (or 4 for that matter) Processors; the bad thing is that it can only take RAM up to 667MHz and ideally you'll want 800MHz at least - if not higher. Gigabyte do make other (read: better) motherboards so take a look in Newegg and find which one would suit you best.
No it doesnt support Quads or Duos. Look at the right column, the ones with N/A next to them arent compatible.
Yeah, that's what I saw too.
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kylef
Gone
+1,352|6760|N. Ireland
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Vela Incident
+1,652|6834|NYC / Hamburg

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Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

Heh, double-facepalm.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York
Brasso
member
+1,549|6897

Ty wrote:

As to a PSU being overpowered, what are the failings of having an overpowered PSU?
Less efficiency, high price paid to begin with.  Less efficiency means that your system is only able to use a certain amount of it depending on the PSU.  With high wattage PSUs and low power-consuming systems, the efficiency is usually lower than the max rated efficiency...
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6657

haffeysucks wrote:

Ty wrote:

As to a PSU being overpowered, what are the failings of having an overpowered PSU?
Less efficiency, high price paid to begin with.  Less efficiency means that your system is only able to use a certain amount of it depending on the PSU.  With high wattage PSUs and low power-consuming systems, the efficiency is usually lower than the max rated efficiency...
And let's be frank, a new PSU isn't that expensive.  If you want a new GPU in the future, get a new cheap PSU that can power it and save your electricity bill in the meantime.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

I'm currently doing some math and I've come to the conclusion that I'm probably going to want an entirely new system. I mean Hell, I was comfortable replacing the CPU, PSU and GPU but now that it's leaked onto motherboards and perhaps RAM and in all honesty the 250GB hard drive isn't quite cutting it... so yeah.

I've got a fair idea of what I'm after now and I'll build this myself, (I need a hobby,) I'll order some of the more expensive parts from America, (GPU, CPU,) but then get the rest from my computer guy who's a trustworthy sort, (although his insistance on using the Gigabyte cases which lack any flair of design whatsoever is concerning.) Since I won't need the moniter, speakers or keyboard/mouse replaced that cuts a fair bit from the cost, PLUS I can probably hawk off my old PC for arouind $400-$500. The high prices of PC equipment in NZ work both ways my friends.

I'll sort this out properly after my last Uni exam, (Nov 6,) anyway, cheers for your help everyone.
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bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6579

Good luck with your exam and good luck building the new PC. I never knew shit was expensive enough in NZ to force you to buy from the US Maybe I shouldn't be complaining about Canadian prices.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

SO, I've decided on a system and getting it in November. Wadja think?

MoBo: Gigabyte GA-G45M-DS2H
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
PSU: Seasonic S12 430W, (Possibly getting a more powerful one but hey I can always upgrade.)
GPU: Gigabyte nVidia 9800GTX+
RAM: 4GB DDR2, (2x 2GB)

Costing me a bit more than I originally planned of course but I can financially justify it so it's all good.
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bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6579

Question is, do you really need a quad core?
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7041|Noizyland

Well I'm still asking myself that and I might instead opt for an E8500 Core 2 Duo 3.16GHz CPU instead. I'm thinking that since I don't upgrade much the quad is the way to go but hey, I have until November to decide for absolute certain. I'm always open to people's suggestions.
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Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6756|Gogledd Cymru

/me loves his E8500, hardly anything supports dual let alone quad core programs, E8500 will be much better for you Ty.
bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6579

My suggestion would be to get a dual core unless you're planning on doing video rendering or 3D design. Get an E8400 and OC if you want ($20 cheaper than an E8500 and $100 cheaper than the quad you wanted). Take that extra and put it towards a better video card. 4870 maybe?
Stimey
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+786|6387|Ontario | Canada
I only got quad for future proof.
Never seen my CPU go above 25% with daily use.
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