Harmor
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It is true that an organization named A.C.O.R.N. and a Obama as a lawyer forced banks though strong-armed tactics and intimidation to low-income people?  And though that court case helped make this financial problem we have now worst?
usmarine
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i would say credit swap made by the practice of lending to low income people is the main cause of the problem.  people discount the CRA, HUD, and ACORN as irrelevant to the issue.  but, if they would look at credit swap, they would see that is the main cause.
Kmar
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Did you verify this with snopes? ..lol

Obama pushed for an investigation because he felt blacks were being unfairly targeted by predatory lending.. I don't know if this is related though.
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I believe but haven't had the time to connect the dots (due to school) that this whole situation was started when Bill Clinton signed a bill into law saying that companies couldn't red line areas off as no loan zones because it was a prejudice against the people in those zones. Generally the zones were low income, high welfare zones with high risk on repaying.

Although I might be cracked out at the moment. Calculus, Spanish, and three 400 level history classes tend to make you frazzled.
SealXo
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Harmor wrote:

It is true that an organization named A.C.O.R.N. and a Obama as a lawyer forced banks though strong-armed tactics and intimidation to low-income people?  And though that court case helped make this financial problem we have now worst?
yes - acorn is the most left wing organization that also fakes ballots and registers people that dont even exist or dead people and children for voter fraud and they threatened small bank owners to make bad loans based on race and not numbers so they did in fear of there own safety. so then the bigger banks (IE FRE FNE) bought out these loans these people could clearly never afford in the first place. So they got screwed

Last edited by SealXo (2008-10-05 22:04:28)

HollisHurlbut
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SealXo wrote:

also fakes ballots and registers people that dont even exist or dead people and children for voter fraud
In case anyone doesn't believe this part...

Washington
July 26, 2007,Seattle Times
Felony charges filed against 7 in state's biggest case of voter-registration fraud. The defendants, who were paid employees and supervisors of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now

Michigan
September 14, 2008, Detroit Free Press
Several municipal clerks across the state are reporting fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications, most of them from a nationwide community activist group working to help low- and moderate-income families.The majority of the problem applications are coming from the group ACORN, Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now ...

Florida
Oct. 13, 2007, PRNewswire
A Florida state attorney is investigating thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations associated with the leading organizer of Florida's Amendment 5 ballot initiative. But this is just the tip of an iceberg of illegalities, fraud and contradictions connected to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) ... Former ACORN Miami-Dade field director Mac Stuart has declared an intent to sue ACORN and has made charges of rampant voter fraud operations. Stuart was employed and specifically tasked by ACORN to generate 103,000 new voter registrations from Dade County. He reports that ACORN threw out Republican registrations while paying for Democratic ones. Stuart also charges that ACORN targeted ex-cons and that he personally set up registration tables outside the Miami police department and Dade County jail.

New Mexico
Sept. 18, 2008, Judicial Watch Blog
This week officials in New Mexico's most populous county (Bernalillo) notified federal authorities that more than 1,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted to the clerk's office. ACORN, which pays workers for each registration, is the prime suspect since it has handled thousands of new voter registrations in New Mexico since January. County workers subsequently discovered that at least 1,100 new registrations list Social Security numbers for people already in the county's database of registered voters, names of registered voters with different birth dates and addresses that don't exist.

Wisconsin
Aug. 6, 2008, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Criminal investigations could be launched against at least six voter registration workers who tried to add dead, imprisoned or imaginary people to the voter rolls, according to the Milwaukee Election Commission and the organization that employed them. "One woman called us to complain because her husband has been dead for 10 years and a voter registration was submitted," Edman said. In about 12 cases, deputy registrars paid by ACORN were "making people up or registering people that were still in prison," said Carolyn Castore, ACORN's state political director. And in other cases, workers used the same address for numerous voters or used driver's license numbers that did not fit the voters' birth dates, Edman said. But most of the fraud involved submitting duplicate cards for voters who were already registered, and forging the voters' signatures, Castore said.

Ohio
August 27, 2008, The Plain Dealer
A national organization that conducts voter registration drives for low-income people has curtailed its push in Cuyahoga County after the Board of Elections accused its workers of submitting fraudulent registration cards. Board employees said ACORN workers often handed in the same name on a number of voter registration cards, but showing that person living at different addresses. Other times, cards had the same name listed, but a different date of birth. Still another sign of possible fraud showed a number of people living at an address that turned out to be a restaurant. ACORN has submitted about 75,000 voter registration cards to the Cuyahoga board this year.

Pennsylvania
Sept. 18, 2008, The Bulletin: Philadelphia's Family Newspaper
A community organization, with longstanding ties to Barack Obama, has, according to numerous reports, repeatedly run afoul of voter registration laws both locally and nationally. Philadelphia election officials recently accused ACORN, of filing multiple fraudulent voter registrations during the 2008 Pennsylvania primary. The case has been referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, according to Philadelphia Deputy Election Commissioner Fred Voight. Delaware County election officials have made similar allegations against the group, and criminal indictments are pending. This past July 24, Dauphin County detectives offered a $2,000 reward for information about the whereabouts of Luis R. Torres-Serrano, an ACORN worker, who was accused of submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registrations.

Nevada
July 7,2008, Las Vegas Review Journal
ACORN, which stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, claims to have collected 60,000 new voter registrations in Clark County since February ... Lomax said while he supports the goal of getting more people registered to vote, he sees rampant fraud in the 2,000 to 3,000 registrations ACORN turns in every week.
Harmor
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What did Obama do with A.C.O.R.N. while he was a lawyer/community organizer?
SealXo
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Harmor wrote:

What did Obama do with A.C.O.R.N. while he was a lawyer/community organizer?
Advocated that the banks should do these racially correct loans.

His past is quite sketch because he wont release ANY or let his schools release ANY records from his college years. It is unclear as he was making a good salary in New York as a Harvard Law Grad why he would leave to go to Chicago where he knows noone and be a community organizations lawyer making a low salary from atleast 70k + in new york.

I've heard stories that could be true that he met William Ayres in New York and William saw his socialitic ideas and thought he was teachable to the cause. Why else would he be driven to move to somewhere like that? He says he just randomly decided to go.. right.

I also find the whole kalid al monsour thing pretty funny, how did he meet a Saudi anti-semite communist that works for OPEC to write and raise money for him to go to Harvard? How do you just run into someone like this? Youtube this guy and see what he has to say about jews. Hes fucking crazy.

They also say community organizer isnt really what it sounds like it is. In a quote from his book he says that he didnt really know what it was until he started. And they say the organizer part was working with left wing organizations such as ACORN that have a dirty past.

The whole thing is VERY dirty and VERY suspicious as he wont talk about it and wont release info on it. And his Pakastani college coke addict rommate that he traveled with to Pakistan in 1981 when Pakistan was under Sharia Law. I've read rumors that when he went was the week before Haji. Quite interesting.

He has to many radical associations for him not to be close to anyone
Father Phleger
Reverend Wright
Tony Rescoe
College Roommate
Dr. Kalid.
Kalid al monsour
William Ayres

the list goes on.

Last edited by SealXo (2008-10-06 17:46:44)

FEOS
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Harmor wrote:

What did Obama do with A.C.O.R.N. while he was a lawyer/community organizer?
As a community organizer, he drummed up support (both people and funding) for ACORN and similar groups. Additionally, as a member of the Woods Fund board, he garnered grants for ACORN (along with his buddy Ayers).
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
SealXo
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I've also read, but cannot be so sure. That the "left wing" board Obama served with Ayres on is the Annenburg Foundation which also funds the website that 'debunks' Obamas rumors, 'fastcheck.org

lol conspiracy

Last edited by SealXo (2008-10-06 17:52:53)

MGS3_GrayFox
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SealXo wrote:

I've also read, but cannot be so sure. That the "left wing" board Obama served with Ayres on is the Annenburg Foundation which also funds the website that 'debunks' Obamas rumors, 'fastcheck.org

Fastcheck debunks all the anti obama rumors, but how can that be credible is it infact is funded by a foundation obama served on with a terrorist?
Oh noes, the terrorist will attack again if Obama is elected!
SealXo
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MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

SealXo wrote:

I've also read, but cannot be so sure. That the "left wing" board Obama served with Ayres on is the Annenburg Foundation which also funds the website that 'debunks' Obamas rumors, 'fastcheck.org

Fastcheck debunks all the anti obama rumors, but how can that be credible is it infact is funded by a foundation obama served on with a terrorist?
Oh noes, the terrorist will attack again if Obama is elected!
Im just saying if i chilled with Fidel Castro, id probably eventually be influenced.
MGS3_GrayFox
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SealXo wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

SealXo wrote:

I've also read, but cannot be so sure. That the "left wing" board Obama served with Ayres on is the Annenburg Foundation which also funds the website that 'debunks' Obamas rumors, 'fastcheck.org

Fastcheck debunks all the anti obama rumors, but how can that be credible is it infact is funded by a foundation obama served on with a terrorist?
Oh noes, the terrorist will attack again if Obama is elected!
Im just saying if i chilled with Fidel Castro, id probably eventually be influenced.
If you chilled with Fidel Castro, that would make you cool.

Remember, communism is not bad.
Poseidon
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SealXo wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

SealXo wrote:

I've also read, but cannot be so sure. That the "left wing" board Obama served with Ayres on is the Annenburg Foundation which also funds the website that 'debunks' Obamas rumors, 'fastcheck.org

Fastcheck debunks all the anti obama rumors, but how can that be credible is it infact is funded by a foundation obama served on with a terrorist?
Oh noes, the terrorist will attack again if Obama is elected!
Im just saying if i chilled with Fidel Castro, id probably eventually be influenced.
So if you hang out with lefties, their opinion is suddenly going to influence you?

You're a very weak minded individual if so...
SealXo
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Poseidon wrote:

SealXo wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

Oh noes, the terrorist will attack again if Obama is elected!
Im just saying if i chilled with Fidel Castro, id probably eventually be influenced.
So if you hang out with lefties, their opinion is suddenly going to influence you?

You're a very weak minded individual if so...
Oh for god fucking sake.

Im saying that if i was a confused drug experimenting right out of college confused about my race unpartied leaning liberal and I met a radical liberal and hung out with him that I would probably listen to his ideas. After all, he is a open minded individual.

A guy who bombed the fucking capitol, pentagon, police stations, and judges homes with children inside is just a  'leftie' to you, youve got a weak mind literally.

Last edited by SealXo (2008-10-06 17:59:41)

Harmor
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I think I'm convinced that O'Bama is a duck.
Spark
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Hmm. Just saw something about voter fraud regarding ACORN-registered voters...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
FEOS
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Spark wrote:

Hmm. Just saw something about voter fraud regarding ACORN-registered voters...
Would that be the registration of the entire Dallas Cowboys football team (their names at least) in Las Vegas?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Warhammer
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SealXo wrote:

I've also read, but cannot be so sure. That the "left wing" board Obama served with Ayres on is the Annenburg Foundation which also funds the website that 'debunks' Obamas rumors, 'fastcheck.org

lol conspiracy
Yeah I was curious about Annenberg associated with factcheck.org

Here is a link where Foxnews checking the accuracy of Brooks Jackson from factcheck.org:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,427347,00.html

Obama was also influenced with communistic figures before college:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop … Obama.html
13rin
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Harmor wrote:

It is true that an organization named A.C.O.R.N. and a Obama as a lawyer forced banks though strong-armed tactics and intimidation to low-income people?  And though that court case helped make this financial problem we have now worst?
Obama has given those guys 800K.  Acorn members should be jailed for what they are doing and maybe OB should too.

Spark wrote:

Hmm. Just saw something about voter fraud regarding ACORN-registered voters...
I wonder who they all voted for?

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-10-10 08:25:13)

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GorillaTicTacs
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Ok, so lemme get this straight about the OP...

Obama was a community activist that used his legal background to help secure loans for affordable housing for the poor.

As for Obama "forcing the banks", Snopes already debunked that chain mail. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/loans.asp
Jesus Christ, if you receive it as a chain mail, 99.99% of the time its bullshit.

As for Mr. Hurlbut

Hollis Hurlbut wrote:

In case anyone doesn't believe this part...

Washington
July 26, 2007,Seattle Times
Felony charges filed against 7 in state's biggest case of voter-registration fraud. The defendants, who were paid employees and supervisors of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now...blah blah bullshit.
This little "news article" that was cut'n'pasted without sourcing was written for a local tabloid in Phillie by one Michael P. Tremoglie - fiction writer, end times warrior, and proud racist as he states with no shame on his own (oxymoronically named) home rag.
http://www.intellectualconservative.com … iberalism/

C'mon wingers, you can do better than that!

Keep trying, even the worst players can bat a .200

Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2008-10-10 12:15:45)

FEOS
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Obama can do no wrong, McCain can do no right. You people need to get that through your heads.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
GorillaTicTacs
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FEOS wrote:

Obama can do no wrong, McCain can do no right. You people need to get that through your heads.
Obama has real skeletons in the closet I'm sure, but your cokeheaded AWOL W. set the bar pretty freakin' low as to what is acceptable in a president's past.

The McCain camp can feel free at any time to actually come up with something compelling.

Yes, its end of election season, negative campaigning...I get it.  Sure.  No problem.  But we're in the middle of a very real financial meltdown and I'd like to see some real leadership or someone smart enough to get the hell out of the way.  What scares me about McCain's campaign the most is that no campaign can be that incompetent without honestly trying to be like that.
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