13rin
Member
+977|6897

Pierre wrote:

Could you define 'assault weapons' for me?
Hence the problem.. However the recent ruling in the Supreme Court (with respect to the DC gun ban) was huge.  It will be really tough for "Bah"ma to take mah guns.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6812|The Gem Saloon

Pierre wrote:

Could you define 'assault weapons' for me?
a purely political term.

it has no relevant meaning outside of the US (or inside, as far as im concerned), as it could literally cover everything from handguns to howitzers.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7133|US

m3thod wrote:

ak47's m16 shit like that

i think.

i dont know dick about guns
Nope...both of those have been restricted by the ATF since their invention (law written in 1934).  Neither type can be purchased new or imported, since 1986.

Why do I want an "assault weapon?"  Frankly, I don't--"assault" is a behavior, not an object.
I want an intermediate caliber, semi-automatic, center fire rifle.  Could it be because I use it in competition?...or maybe because it is one of the most versatile hunting rifles in America?...or maybe because it can be used for home defense?...or maybe because I like to shoot?

The '94 AWB was a stupid failure that penalized law-abiding citizens...like most gun laws...

Inform yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjM9fcEzSJ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfKADcfE90U
Pierre
I hunt criminals down for a living
+68|7094|Belgium
OK.

OP wrote:

In California, a statewide survey of law enforcement agencies by the state Department of Justice found that a mere 3.7% of firearms used in homicides and assaults were assault weapons.
How much is 3.7 % in the US?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7000|SE London

Parker wrote:

the IRA gets itchy again?
i could not even imagine having guns be illegal, only to have to defend yourself and not have the ability.
the UK gun laws iirc, were put in place in the 20s to combat the IRA....that worked out so well.
The big UK gun laws (total handgun ban and stepping up on other restrictions already in place) were put in place as a result of the Dunblane massacre.

Parker wrote:

how many civilians were killed without the chance to defend themselves?


Shows a great lack of understanding of the conflict.
13rin
Member
+977|6897

Bertster7 wrote:

Parker wrote:

the IRA gets itchy again?
i could not even imagine having guns be illegal, only to have to defend yourself and not have the ability.
the UK gun laws iirc, were put in place in the 20s to combat the IRA....that worked out so well.
The big UK gun laws (total handgun ban and stepping up on other restrictions already in place) were put in place as a result of the Dunblane massacre.
Forgive my ignorance of the subject, but the law abiding popolus was disarmed as a result of criminal acts?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
jord
Member
+2,382|7096|The North, beyond the wall.

Parker wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I wouldn't mind owning a few M72 LAW's and a light machine gun myself














Just incase
the IRA gets itchy again?
i could not even imagine having guns be illegal, only to have to defend yourself and not have the ability.
the UK gun laws iirc, were put in place in the 20s to combat the IRA....that worked out so well. how many civilians were killed without the chance to defend themselves?
no, i dont want to leave in the cops hands....
I aint got time to debate that mate but it isn't fully true.

Fun fact. I can't wear my cammies out of centre because of terrorists, including the PIRA.

And we can own .22 rifles, I've been after a license recently.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6812|The Gem Saloon

Bertster7 wrote:

Parker wrote:

how many civilians were killed without the chance to defend themselves?


Shows a great lack of understanding of the conflict.
from 1969-2006, 1855 people didnt have a chance to defend themselves. oh, and those are civilians bertster....thats all i really need to know about that conflict.
jord
Member
+2,382|7096|The North, beyond the wall.
You can't defend yourself against car bombs and IED's. You could be carrying a fucking GPMG with 800 rounds and not have a chance.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6812|The Gem Saloon

jord wrote:

You can't defend yourself against car bombs and IED's. You could be carrying a fucking GPMG with 800 rounds and not have a chance.
there were 39,000 incidents with firearms in that same time frame.
13rin
Member
+977|6897

jord wrote:

Fun fact. I can't wear my cammies out of centre because of terrorists, including the PIRA.

And we can own .22 rifles, I've been after a license recently.
So, you're for gun ownership now.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7133|US
Defensive Gun Uses in the US (annually): Estimates up to 2.5 million...
Yes, law abiding citizens should be able to defend themselves.
jord
Member
+2,382|7096|The North, beyond the wall.

Parker wrote:

jord wrote:

You can't defend yourself against car bombs and IED's. You could be carrying a fucking GPMG with 800 rounds and not have a chance.
there were 39,000 incidents with firearms in that same time frame.
I'll bet they happened on streets, where even if you did own a gun you wouldn't be carrying it...


I know a fair bit about the tactics used in that conflict. I.e robbing a shop and calling the Police then ambushing the Police and killing every motherfucker in the area then scattering. If you lived in a warzone like that I'd have a pistol illegally anyway and so would anyone who feared for their lives. But back here on the mainland I'm not worried enough to own a gun or carry it around with me.
jord
Member
+2,382|7096|The North, beyond the wall.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

jord wrote:

Fun fact. I can't wear my cammies out of centre because of terrorists, including the PIRA.

And we can own .22 rifles, I've been after a license recently.
So, you're for gun ownership now.
I could explain my beliefs on it but they're pretty long and I've had a hard day. To summarise:

Some sort of test or past military experiance and no criminal record and then you can own a small to medium sized rifle. Special permits for pistols for trappers and shotguns for people who need them for their livelihood. E.g farmers.

I wouldn't want any dumb motherfucker round where I live to have any sort of firearm. But think me, having knowledge of safety of weapons and safety drills as well as an average IQ should be able to own a rifle. Hypocritic huh...

Last edited by jord (2008-10-14 11:46:58)

DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7103|United States of America
If you buy them now, wouldn't the ban be an ex post facto law in regards to possesssion? You still couldn't use them, but would at least be able to have them in your collection until the ban expires or the ban is changed.
mcjagdflieger
Champion of Dueling Rectums
+26|6729|South Jersey

DesertFox- wrote:

If you buy them now, wouldn't the ban be an ex post facto law in regards to possesssion? You still couldn't use them, but would at least be able to have them in your collection until the ban expires or the ban is changed.
or how bout stupid law goes the way of the dodo like it should, until some lying sack of shit cookie cutter corrupted excuse for a politician tries to bring it back to gain the vote of the dumbasses who dont understand its a useless law in the first place?
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6886
I still don't understand why anyone would want an Assault Weapon.

To clumsy in CQC so home-defence is right out. To big to be carried around. And they take all the skill out of hunting.

So the only reason you would pwn one, is for the sake of pwning one.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6889
Ban all weapons, and let us commence combat and resolve conflict through the gentile swapping of words.

/thread.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7180

obama voted for shotguns to be considered assault weapons lulz
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6986|Mountains of NC

why do motherfuckers own a $100,000 2 door sports car ...... you can't load your friends in it, you can't carry anything larger then handbag in it


but its fun to drive





its fun to shoot    .
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krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7198|Great Brown North

SEREMAKER wrote:

why do motherfuckers own a $100,000 2 door sports car ...... you can't load your friends in it, you can't carry anything larger then handbag in it


but its fun to drive





its fun to shoot    .
but... guns are teh evilz


why are .25 cal pistols (and .32 i think?) banned in Canada? can someone give me a real answer why they are but .22 and 9mm aren't
SealXo
Member
+309|6954
california has pussy assault weapons laws on a m4 you have to take off the reciever and load it into a welded mag it is SO gay
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6905|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

SealXo wrote:

california has pussy assault weapons laws on a m4 you have to take off the reciever and load it into a welded mag it is SO gay
Or just buy the upper and lower separate and your fine. You just keep them "apart".
SealXo
Member
+309|6954

SgtHeihn wrote:

SealXo wrote:

california has pussy assault weapons laws on a m4 you have to take off the reciever and load it into a welded mag it is SO gay
Or just buy the upper and lower separate and your fine. You just keep them "apart".
or just buy a preban


i used to have a ruger .22 with 30 round clips.
man i miss it
sad fish
Member
+7|6109|California

mcjagdflieger wrote:

In California, a statewide survey of law enforcement agencies by the state Department of Justice found that a mere 3.7% of firearms used in homicides and assaults were assault weapons.
Not that I'm for assault rifle bans, but have you ever read up on California gun laws? They are probably the shittiest gun laws in the country that forbid assault weapons except under strict conditions on the weapon modification, at least from how I understand it.

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