No median spin, who won Kmarion? I haven't had access to decent TV in two weeks.
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Obama did. McCain had him on the defense but he did not stick him on anything really. McCain looked very uncomfortable. Obama looked Presidential.CameronPoe wrote:
No median spin, who won Kmarion? I haven't had access to decent TV in two weeks.
Even Fox says so.
http://thebruceblog.wordpress.com/2008/ … -to-obama/
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That conversation between Obama and Joe the plumber was actually pretty neat. Very relaxed and respectable even though they disagreed.
Well he wasn't saying "I love Fox, they're such nice people and always have nice things to say about me" now, was he?Kmarion wrote:
Wasn't very anti-fox imo. Just stating what everyone knows and what fox admits.
why dont dems bitch and moan about msnbc as they do about fox?
Dude, thats your job!usmarine wrote:
why dont dems bitch and moan about msnbc as they do about fox?
no, i mean really. where are all the blogs crying about their bias? i dont see it. no where near the fox hatred. thus proving the point the left cries way too much.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Dude, thats your job!usmarine wrote:
why dont dems bitch and moan about msnbc as they do about fox?
I am sitting in the Phoenix Airport and they have CNN on and all they have had on is Political shit. Thank God for free internet and my iPod.
Both candidates sound like bumbling idiots. Thankfully it is over soon.
Both candidates sound like bumbling idiots. Thankfully it is over soon.
Its ok man, you'll adjust. Just wait about 12 years when the libs/dems screw up royally and you'll be on the winning team again.usmarine wrote:
no, i mean really. where are all the blogs crying about their bias? i dont see it. no where near the fox hatred. thus proving the point the left cries way too much.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Dude, thats your job!usmarine wrote:
why dont dems bitch and moan about msnbc as they do about fox?
Because unless you say "I love (whatever) " you are anti (whatever).Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Well he wasn't saying "I love Fox, they're such nice people and always have nice things to say about me" now, was he?Kmarion wrote:
Wasn't very anti-fox imo. Just stating what everyone knows and what fox admits.
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huh?GorillaTicTacs wrote:
and you'll be on the winning team again.
Good god. Do you just not get subtlety? You know, like how there isn't just 'black' and 'white', 'good' and 'bad', 'wrong' and 'right', but how all these things are all finely-graded, grey-scale, spectra?Kmarion wrote:
Because unless you say "I love (whatever) " you are anti (whatever).Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Well he wasn't saying "I love Fox, they're such nice people and always have nice things to say about me" now, was he?Kmarion wrote:
Wasn't very anti-fox imo. Just stating what everyone knows and what fox admits.
The point about fox isn't that it's pro-republican-party, or anti-democratic-party, it's just that it's biased. News should be independent. But this is something Rupert Murdock doesn't understand.usmarine wrote:
why dont dems bitch and moan about msnbc as they do about fox?
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(2nd edit: correction to funny mistake made in 1st edit)
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usmarine wrote:
no, i mean really. where are all the blogs crying about their bias? i dont see it. no where near the fox hatred. thus proving the point the left cries way too much.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Dude, thats your job!usmarine wrote:
why dont dems bitch and moan about msnbc as they do about fox?
some blogger wrote:
Since just this Sunday, the numbers are staggering:
Combined, FNC has mentioned "ACORN" or "Ayers" 1,231 times
Compare that to 963 references to "economy" or "middle class"
FNC's propaganda puts it out way out on a limb. Combined, MSNBC and CNN have made 798 references to ACORN or Ayers. Remember, that's both networks, combined.
Put another way, FNC has mentioned ACORN or Ayers 50% more often than both of its competitors put together.
::: :::
Raw Numbers:
FNC MSNBC CNN
ACORN 706 67 112
AYERS 525 340 279
Economy 826 1032 954
"middle class" 137 170 163
I do.. if I didn't I'd come up with some silly notion that he was being anti fox because he said the obvious. IronyScorpion0x17 wrote:
Good god. Do you just not get subtlety? You know, like how there isn't just 'black' and 'white', 'good' and 'bad', 'wrong' and 'right', but how all these things are all finely-graded, grey-scale, spectra?Kmarion wrote:
Because unless you say "I love (whatever) " you are anti (whatever).Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Well he wasn't saying "I love Fox, they're such nice people and always have nice things to say about me" now, was he?
Did you not get the sarcasm? I was saying exactly what you are suggesting I'm not doing "It's not all black or white".Kmarion wrote:
Because unless you say "I love (whatever) " you are anti (whatever).
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Too bad they left out ABC, NBC, and CBS in their stats...I mean, since they're talking about FNC's competitors and all.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
usmarine wrote:
no, i mean really. where are all the blogs crying about their bias? i dont see it. no where near the fox hatred. thus proving the point the left cries way too much.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Dude, thats your job!some blogger wrote:
Since just this Sunday, the numbers are staggering:
Combined, FNC has mentioned "ACORN" or "Ayers" 1,231 times
Compare that to 963 references to "economy" or "middle class"
FNC's propaganda puts it out way out on a limb. Combined, MSNBC and CNN have made 798 references to ACORN or Ayers. Remember, that's both networks, combined.
Put another way, FNC has mentioned ACORN or Ayers 50% more often than both of its competitors put together.
::: :::
Raw Numbers:
FNC MSNBC CNN
ACORN 706 67 112
AYERS 525 340 279
Economy 826 1032 954
"middle class" 137 170 163
That's not to say they don't have a point about the focus of the morning show on FNC. Which is not a news broadcast, btw. No more than the Today program on NBC is news.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
ABC, NBC, and CBS were left out because they aren't specifically billed as "news channels". How often would ACORN be mentioned on re-runs of Desperate Housewives? In each of the above "News" is one of the "N"s in the station designators.FEOS wrote:
Too bad they left out ABC, NBC, and CBS in their stats...I mean, since they're talking about FNC's competitors and all.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
usmarine wrote:
no, i mean really. where are all the blogs crying about their bias? i dont see it. no where near the fox hatred. thus proving the point the left cries way too much.some blogger wrote:
Since just this Sunday, the numbers are staggering:
Combined, FNC has mentioned "ACORN" or "Ayers" 1,231 times
Compare that to 963 references to "economy" or "middle class"
FNC's propaganda puts it out way out on a limb. Combined, MSNBC and CNN have made 798 references to ACORN or Ayers. Remember, that's both networks, combined.
Put another way, FNC has mentioned ACORN or Ayers 50% more often than both of its competitors put together.
::: :::
Raw Numbers:
FNC MSNBC CNN
ACORN 706 67 112
AYERS 525 340 279
Economy 826 1032 954
"middle class" 137 170 163
That's not to say they don't have a point about the focus of the morning show on FNC. Which is not a news broadcast, btw. No more than the Today program on NBC is news.
Anyways, I'll start whining - Why does MSNBC concern itself with the middle class and economy, showing a clear bias towards these things? It royally sucks, nobody wants to hear about that!
Fox News is shooting themselves in the foot and not even following their own market research. Hence why MSNBC over-took them in ratings last night. Funny.FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll wrote:
Oct. 8-9, 2008. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.
"Which one of the following issues will be the most important in deciding your vote for president: [see below]?" Options rotated
%
Economy and jobs
49
War in Iraq
8
Health care
8
Terrorism and national security
7
Ethics/government corruption
6
Taxes
5
Abortion
5
Energy
5
Immigration
1
Other (vol.)
4
Unsure
2
I mis-read the blogger's quote. I thought it was referring specifically to the Sunday morning talking head shows, which all channels mentioned broadcast.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
ABC, NBC, and CBS were left out because they aren't specifically billed as "news channels". How often would ACORN be mentioned on re-runs of Desperate Housewives? In each of the above "News" is one of the "N"s in the station designators.
At least MSNBC has sidelined Olbermouth and Matthews. Olbermouth makes O'Reilly look calm, composed, and non-partisan.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
once again my point about msnbc still stands. it is way worse. watch it between 8-10pm and there is NO way you can tell me it is not biased. no way.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
The point about fox isn't that it's pro-republican-party, or anti-democratic-party, it's just that it's biased. News should be independent. But this is something Rupert Murdock doesn't understand.
Does anyone actually watch MSNBC?usmarine wrote:
once again my point about msnbc still stands. it is way worse. watch it between 8-10pm and there is NO way you can tell me it is not biased. no way.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
The point about fox isn't that it's pro-republican-party, or anti-democratic-party, it's just that it's biased. News should be independent. But this is something Rupert Murdock doesn't understand.
yes I do. i used to watch oberman at 8pm but then all he did was whine about o'rly like a bitch ever night. then maddow came along at 9 and it was disturbing. i do watch it during the day sometimes.Braddock wrote:
Does anyone actually watch MSNBC?usmarine wrote:
once again my point about msnbc still stands. it is way worse. watch it between 8-10pm and there is NO way you can tell me it is not biased. no way.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
The point about fox isn't that it's pro-republican-party, or anti-democratic-party, it's just that it's biased. News should be independent. But this is something Rupert Murdock doesn't understand.
but that is still not the point.
Ironically you probably watch more MSNBC than me and I probably watch more FOX than you!usmarine wrote:
yes I do. i used to watch oberman at 8pm but then all he did was whine about o'rly like a bitch ever night. then maddow came along at 9 and it was disturbing. i do watch it during the day sometimes.Braddock wrote:
Does anyone actually watch MSNBC?usmarine wrote:
once again my point about msnbc still stands. it is way worse. watch it between 8-10pm and there is NO way you can tell me it is not biased. no way.
but that is still not the point.
most likely true. i watch hanity and colmes only.Braddock wrote:
Ironically you probably watch more MSNBC than me and I probably watch more FOX than you!
That explains tons.usmarine wrote:
i watch hanityBraddock wrote:
Ironically you probably watch more MSNBC than me and I probably watch more FOX than you!
and colmes you asshole. dont misquote me.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
That explains tons.usmarine wrote:
i watch hanityBraddock wrote:
Ironically you probably watch more MSNBC than me and I probably watch more FOX than you!
usmarine presses the mute button when colmes starts to talk
fyi, i don't watch shit like that. I only just found out now that hannity and colmes is what it is.
fyi, i don't watch shit like that. I only just found out now that hannity and colmes is what it is.
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