Ryan
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+1,230|7295|Alberta, Canada

x√3 = x-4

How do I get x?

I asked today but I forget and there is bound to be a question similar to this on the quiz tomorrow.
I know I don't have to square root both sides because x is no part of a radicand...
VicktorVauhn
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+319|6844|Southern California
subtract x from both sides, factor out of the left, then devide by (square root of 3 ) - 1?
Smithereener
Member
+138|6767|California
If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7295|Alberta, Canada

I asked a friend over MSN and figured it out. Thanks anyways guys
Roc18
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Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
I factored -2x2 - 8x + 16

and got x=2 and x=4

Last edited by Roc18 (2008-10-16 17:41:17)

VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6844|Southern California

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...

Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2008-10-16 17:42:04)

Roc18
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+655|6242|PROLLLY PROLLLY PROLLLY

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
I think he's right.
Smithereener
Member
+138|6767|California
Oh pfft, forgot about that. That was my bad.

Take a chill pill though, I'm sorry I made a stupid mistake.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6153|College Park, MD

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
what happened to the other X? it magically turned into a -1?
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:

Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
what happened to the other X? it magically turned into a -1?
He factored it out with the sqrt 3 I believe
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6844|Southern California

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:

Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
what happened to the other X? it magically turned into a -1?
You guys make my head hurt x(sqrt(3)-1) is x*(sqrt(3)-x, x times -1 = -x
google distributive property.

This is seriously like algebra 1
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6898|Chicago, IL

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
this

root3 is just a constant in this equation noobs
Roc18
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+655|6242|PROLLLY PROLLLY PROLLLY

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:

Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
what happened to the other X? it magically turned into a -1?
He factored out the x from the sqrt(3) and the x, which turned into x(sqrt(3) -1)
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6153|College Park, MD
Fuck square roots
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6844|Southern California

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Fuck square roots
solving the equation doesn't have a damn thing to do with a square root, its exactly the same if 5, 10, C, A, W, or a smiley face was in its place.
aj0404
It'll just be our little secret
+298|6801|Iowa...

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
except square roots can't be in the denominator dumbass. 
Vub
The Power of Two
+188|6946|Sydney, Australia

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
Don't do that, you may introduce new solutions. If you do do it this way, then you have to test your results in the original equation to make sure it holds.
Roc18
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+655|6242|PROLLLY PROLLLY PROLLLY

aj0404 wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:

Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
except square roots can't be in the denominator dumbass. 
lol +1
Vub
The Power of Two
+188|6946|Sydney, Australia

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
This is the correct way of doing it.
Smithereener
Member
+138|6767|California

Vub wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:
3X2 = X2 - 8X + 16
Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
Don't do that, you may introduce new solutions. If you do do it this way, then you have to test your results in the original equation to make sure it holds.
Yeh, I was completely wrong when I did that, checked my answers. I guess this is what happens when you just came back from 2 lectures and have only had a few hours of sleep. Eh.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6844|Southern California

aj0404 wrote:

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:

Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
why the fuck would you square both sides when x isn't even under a radical? square root of 3 is just a number like anything else, if this was 5x = x-4 would you square it?
x*sqrt(3)=x-4
x*sqrt(3) -x=-4
x*(sqrt(3)-1)=-4
x=-4/(sqrt(3)-1)
done. Don't need quadratic formula and squaring stuff...Its really basic algebra...
except square roots can't be in the denominator dumbass. 
Why not? It will work plenty fine I promise. That's just a stupid rule to annoy students in basic math classes. Once your past Algebra class no one gives a damn.
Vub
The Power of Two
+188|6946|Sydney, Australia

Smithereener wrote:

Vub wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, you do square both sides. Thus you end up with:

Then solve for X via factoring or quadratic formula. You'll probably have to use the quadratic.

I think.
Don't do that, you may introduce new solutions. If you do do it this way, then you have to test your results in the original equation to make sure it holds.
Yeh, I was completely wrong when I did that, checked my answers. I guess this is what happens when you just came back from 2 lectures and have only had a few hours of sleep. Eh.
Haha yeah I reckon, I learnt that the hard way...I'll never forget that maths test *cries*
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6844|Southern California

Vub wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

Vub wrote:


Don't do that, you may introduce new solutions. If you do do it this way, then you have to test your results in the original equation to make sure it holds.
Yeh, I was completely wrong when I did that, checked my answers. I guess this is what happens when you just came back from 2 lectures and have only had a few hours of sleep. Eh.
Haha yeah I reckon, I learnt that the hard way...I'll never forget that maths test *cries*
Oh well, I guess at least we can all agree to laugh at Hurricane.
aj0404
It'll just be our little secret
+298|6801|Iowa...

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Why not? It will work plenty fine I promise. That's just a stupid rule to annoy students in basic math classes. Once your past Algebra class no one gives a damn.
yes, but it sounds like he's in algebra class to me. and i just felt like being a dick.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7295|Alberta, Canada

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Why not? It will work plenty fine I promise. That's just a stupid rule to annoy students in basic math classes. Once your past Algebra class no one gives a damn.
I'm not in a 'basic' math class. I'm in grade 11, so I'm in Math 20 Pure Advanced. I'm taking 30 level math next semester.

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